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Nartker 23-11-2006 02:30 PM

NYT Bread Article
 
I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk since
I downloaded it.

Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.

Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.

I recommended this method highly.

Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
a brutal method for the Le Cresset.

The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.



Marcella Peek 23-11-2006 03:26 PM

NYT Bread Article
 
for a wedding gift years ago we received a bread baking cloche. Made
from unglazed pottery with base and lid you were to soak it in water and
then bake the bread in it. It did turn out a nice crust. However, it
was also recommended for baking chicken and that was beyond a pain to
clean out for further bread baking. Perhaps such a thing is still
available out there.

I did find something
similar....http://www.amazon.com/Sassafras-La-C.../dp/B00004S1D5

marcella

In article >,
" Nartker" > wrote:

> I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
> New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk since
> I downloaded it.
>
> Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
> quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.
>
> Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
> preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
> removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
>
> I recommended this method highly.
>
> Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
> a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
>
> The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.


Boron Elgar[_1_] 23-11-2006 04:25 PM

NYT Bread Article
 
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:30:56 -0600, " Nartker" >
wrote:

>I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
>New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk since
>I downloaded it.
>
>Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
>quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.
>
>Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
>preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
>removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
>
>I recommended this method highly.
>
>Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
>a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
>
>The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.
>



You can get a plain cast iron Dutch oven new for much less than the LC
ones. Most camping supply places have them.

In fact, you can often find them at garage sales.

Boron

serene 23-11-2006 07:14 PM

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:30:56 -0600, " Nartker" >
wrote:

>Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This is
>a brutal method for the Le Cresset.


I'm just using a heavy stockpot with foil as a lid, and it's coming
out fine. I don't think it's fussy about which vessel is used.

Serene
--
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FJM702 23-11-2006 07:29 PM

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You might try Lodge Mfg. It's the oldest and last maker of cast-iron
cookware in the US. The NYT had an article a few months ago about some chefs
who got together to find the best skillet for making an omelet. They tested
different kinds of skillets.The winner was LC and Lodge was a close second.
The LC skillet costs $90 and you can buy a 10" Lodge skillet at Wal-Mart for
less than $11.
http://www.lodgemfg.com/

" Nartker" > wrote in message
...
>I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
>New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
>since I downloaded it.
>
> Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
> quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.
>
> Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
> preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
> removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
>
> I recommended this method highly.
>
> Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
> is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
>
> The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.
>




FJM702 23-11-2006 07:41 PM

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The Lodge skillet I mentioned is not the enameled one. Just a regular
cast-iron skillet. But it does come cured. It's great for baking cornbread
and if you leave it in the oven while it's pre-heating and then pour the
batter into the skillet it gives a nice, crisp crust on the bottom. A cast
iron skillet is usually recommended for making pineapple upside down cake.
Not sure why. It has many baking uses. See if your local library has a copy
of Cast-Iron Cooking for Dummies. If not, it costs about $12 on Amazon.

"FJM702" > wrote in message
...
> You might try Lodge Mfg. It's the oldest and last maker of cast-iron
> cookware in the US. The NYT had an article a few months ago about some
> chefs who got together to find the best skillet for making an omelet. They
> tested different kinds of skillets.The winner was LC and Lodge was a close
> second. The LC skillet costs $90 and you can buy a 10" Lodge skillet at
> Wal-Mart for less than $11.
> http://www.lodgemfg.com/
>
> " Nartker" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
>>New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
>>since I downloaded it.
>>
>> Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
>> quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.
>>
>> Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
>> preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
>> removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
>>
>> I recommended this method highly.
>>
>> Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
>> is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
>>
>> The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.
>>

>
>




alkem@webtv.net 23-11-2006 08:33 PM

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My pot also took a beating. I went to a stone and covered it with a
heated metal bowl.Came out surprisingly good.


Wayne Boatwright[_1_] 23-11-2006 09:53 PM

NYT Bread Article
 
Oh pshaw, on Thu 23 Nov 2006 01:33:43p, meant to say...

> My pot also took a beating. I went to a stone and covered it with a
> heated metal bowl.Came out surprisingly good.


I was going to give this a try after we moved and my Le Creuset pots were
unpacked, but they're in pristine condition, and I'd like to keep them that
way. I think I'll pick up a Lodge dutch oven for this.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Useless Invention: Solar powered night light.


Charles Quinn 26-11-2006 01:09 AM

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Boron Elgar > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:30:56 -0600, " Nartker" >
> wrote:
>
>>I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago
>>the New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my
>>desk since I downloaded it.
>>
>>Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I
>>can quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its
>>performance.
>>
>>Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
>>preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid
>>handle removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
>>
>>I recommended this method highly.
>>
>>Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in?
>>This is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
>>
>>The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.
>>

>
>
> You can get a plain cast iron Dutch oven new for much less than the LC
> ones. Most camping supply places have them.
>
> In fact, you can often find them at garage sales.
>
> Boron


I saw a LC knockoff at Target for $40, it was 4qt one.



--

Charles
The significant problems we face cannot be solved
at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein


philosopher 26-11-2006 07:26 PM

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I don't understand; why is it hard on the Le Creuset? I use mine in the
oven all the time. Is it because of the dry heat?


" Nartker" > wrote in message
...
>I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
>New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
>since I downloaded it.
>
> Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
> quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.
>
> Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
> preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
> removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
>
> I recommended this method highly.
>
> Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
> is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
>
> The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.
>




Bob (this one) 28-11-2006 05:12 AM

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philosopher wrote:
> I don't understand; why is it hard on the Le Creuset? I use mine in the
> oven all the time. Is it because of the dry heat?


I can't imagine. It's a hunk of cast iron covered with what
is essentially glass. Seems to me it's designed for exactly
what we're using it for.

Pastorio



>
>
> " Nartker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
>> New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
>> since I downloaded it.
>>
>> Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
>> quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.
>>
>> Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
>> preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
>> removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
>>
>> I recommended this method highly.
>>
>> Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
>> is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
>>
>> The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.
>>

>
>


Chari 28-11-2006 03:07 PM

NYT Bread Article
 
In article >, says...
> You might try Lodge Mfg. It's the oldest and last maker of cast-iron
> cookware in the US. The NYT had an article a few months ago about some chefs
> who got together to find the best skillet for making an omelet. They tested
> different kinds of skillets.The winner was LC and Lodge was a close second.
> The LC skillet costs $90 and you can buy a 10" Lodge skillet at Wal-Mart for
> less than $11.
>
http://www.lodgemfg.com/
>
> " Nartker" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I am a Culinary School Grad and an avid home baker, several weeks ago the
> >New York Times published an article on bread which has laid on my desk
> >since I downloaded it.
> >
> > Last night I tried the method and the recipe that was published. I can
> > quibble with the recipe, but the method is flawless in its performance.
> >
> > Basically it is a very slow rise of a wet dough, baked in a very hot,
> > preheated cloque. I used a 6 quart Le Crueset pot with the lid handle
> > removed backed in a 450 degree convection oven.
> >
> > I recommended this method highly.
> >
> > Now the question, can any one recommend a better vessel to bake in? This
> > is a brutal method for the Le Cresset.
> >
> > The crust is very crisp nutty and sweet.
> >

>
>
>

I use a Lodge cast iron dutch oven for this. It was inexpensive (under
$15 at a local department store) and has it proven virtually
indestructable.

Dave Bell 28-11-2006 07:21 PM

NYT Bread Article
 
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Chari wrote:

> I use a Lodge cast iron dutch oven for this. It was inexpensive (under
> $15 at a local department store) and has it proven virtually
> indestructable.


That sounds like a very good price! What size is it?

Chari 30-11-2006 10:05 PM

NYT Bread Article
 
In article et>,
says...
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Chari wrote:
>
> > I use a Lodge cast iron dutch oven for this. It was inexpensive (under
> > $15 at a local department store) and has it proven virtually
> > indestructable.

>
> That sounds like a very good price! What size is it?
>

It's 10" or so across the top. I just googled it, and that makes it the
5 qt size. (I had no idea there were even bigger ones....)

RaptorRed 07-12-2006 02:31 PM

NYT Bread Article
 

I have to agree completely with Boron - cast Iron. I baked the NYT
recipe in an old, seasoned, Wagner cast-iron, dutch oven, with a pyrex
lid (great for checking the browning process) and the results were
fantastic. picked the pot up it up at K-Mart for a less than 20
bucks. Used it maybe 5 times, in as many years, until the NY Times
article. Now it gets used 3-4 times a week ( I'm making bread for
family and neighbors, and definately need to get another one, or two).


Cheers,
Steve



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