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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 19:14:00 +0000, shipwreck wrote:
> If KitchenAid is the #1 home mixer, with probably 75% of the market, > who comes in at #2? I'm not talking about handhelds. Is it Viking, > Bosch, Electrolux, JennAir? I'm sure I'm missing someone as well. to take this in a slightly different direction (or maybe not), i just read a very interesting book called "trading up". it is all about how the concept of luxury has changed in America. a quick synopsis might be that it used to be that there were low-priced goods which sold in high volumes, and as prices raised volumes decreased ... until you ended at true luxury goods which sold to very few rich people. the new thing (perhaps because we have more disposable income) is that there can be inversions. things that cost more, can sell more, than the lower priced options. kitchenaid having 75% of the market seems a perfect example. the authors note that it is sometimes the middle of the new price curve that disappears. there might still be low priced mixers (etc.), and high-priced mixers ... but fewer mid-priced mixers. their observation is that we don't uniformly choose luxuries for everything, but decide which are important and "trade up" for those. i know i'm frugal/cheap in a lot of ways, but i did "trade up" to a kitchenaid professional (old 350w) at one point. somewhat in the same vein, "Panera Bread" is named as a success in this "new luxury" category ... selling high quality bread and sandwitches to masses of people for higher cost than typical fast food. book link: http://www.bcg.com/publications/trad...troduction.jsp (the book also makes the shocking statement that 75% of all viking ranges installed are never used) |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 02:25:03 +0000, Alex Rast wrote:
> at Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:14:20 GMT in <pan.2004.03.07.17.14.19.719335 > @Socks.Invalid>, lid (Socks) wrote : >>to take this in a slightly different direction (or maybe not), i just >>read a very interesting book called "trading up". it is all about how >>the concept of luxury has changed in America. a quick synopsis might be >>that it used to be that there were low-priced goods which sold in high >>volumes, and as prices raised volumes decreased ... until you ended at >>true luxury goods which sold to very few rich people. >> >>the new thing (perhaps because we have more disposable income) is that >>there can be inversions. things that cost more, can sell more, than the >>lower priced options... > > My impression is that there's a different phenomenon going on, namely, > repositioning. What's been going on is that the general quality, in > virtually any market segment, is inching down over time, as > manufacturers try to cut costs, not necessarily to gouge the customer > but quite frequently simply to stay alive in industries filled with > incredibly cutthroat competitors. A company will accept a slight loss in > quality of product in exchange for a massive cost reduction, and the > inexorable downward spiral starts to happen - now another slight > reduction in quality is allowed on the already-modified product, and in > a few generations the product is markedly worse that the original, even > though the incremental changes were small and possibly went unnoticed. > [...] i agree that other things are going on, at the same time. having read this book, a lot makes sense and jibes with what i see around me, but ... as you say, companies can be temped (or even forced) to cut many corners. i think one of the temptations that might apply here, is that once you've established a quality/luxury brand, you might try to push it down and out to as many people as possible. perhaps rather than customers "trading up" the manufacturer "trades down" :-( i hope that hasn't gone too far in the kitchenaid case. (but then ... i'm still "trading up" to a model that can actually drive a dough hook. so maybe it is a little of each.) maybe a better example of "new luxury" is Viking (or Sub-Zero), which as far as i know have not yet "traded down." |
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