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Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven.
But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. Have you ever made it that way? Selma Jane |
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![]() "Selma Jane" > wrote in message ... > Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > Have you ever made it that way? > > Selma Jane Why? This sounds like a question posted a couple of weeks ago, about making french fries on the BBQ. Experimentation is good, but I think that in this case, the time would be better spent at the library, browsing cookbooks you've never met. |
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Selma Jane wrote:
> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > Have you ever made it that way? > > Selma Jane I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock pot. Never tried that, either. Jill |
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Selma Jane wrote:
> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > Have you ever made it that way? > > Selma Jane I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock pot. Never tried that, either. Jill |
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Selma Jane wrote:
> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > Have you ever made it that way? > > Selma Jane I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock pot. Never tried that, either. Jill |
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This is a little OT but is it wrong to use cherry saw dust instead of bread
crumbs? "jmcquown" > wrote in message . .. > Selma Jane wrote: >> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. >> But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. >> Have you ever made it that way? >> >> Selma Jane > > I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock > pot. Never tried that, either. > > Jill > > |
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This is a little OT but is it wrong to use cherry saw dust instead of bread
crumbs? "jmcquown" > wrote in message . .. > Selma Jane wrote: >> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. >> But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. >> Have you ever made it that way? >> >> Selma Jane > > I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock > pot. Never tried that, either. > > Jill > > |
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Depends on what you're making. I can see cherry saw dust going nicely with
venison or duck. Might be a bit strong for chicken, though. I'd use oak for that. "joeD" > wrote in message ... > This is a little OT but is it wrong to use cherry saw dust instead of > bread crumbs? > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > . .. >> Selma Jane wrote: >>> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. >>> But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. >>> Have you ever made it that way? >>> >>> Selma Jane >> >> I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock >> pot. Never tried that, either. >> >> Jill >> >> > > |
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Depends on what you're making. I can see cherry saw dust going nicely with
venison or duck. Might be a bit strong for chicken, though. I'd use oak for that. "joeD" > wrote in message ... > This is a little OT but is it wrong to use cherry saw dust instead of > bread crumbs? > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > . .. >> Selma Jane wrote: >>> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. >>> But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. >>> Have you ever made it that way? >>> >>> Selma Jane >> >> I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock >> pot. Never tried that, either. >> >> Jill >> >> > > |
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In article >, "joeD" >
wrote: > This is a little OT but is it wrong to use cherry saw dust instead of > bread crumbs? Hmm. I seem to remember that some high-fiber breads used to contain wood fiber. You're just skipping the flour. Try it, but not more than about 2-3 tablespoons. I'd probably mix it with the meat rather than soaking it with the milk and egg first. It might clump together and start to form a board or something. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Arizona vacation pics added 3-24-05. "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner, performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005. |
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In article >, "joeD" >
wrote: > This is a little OT but is it wrong to use cherry saw dust instead of > bread crumbs? Hmm. I seem to remember that some high-fiber breads used to contain wood fiber. You're just skipping the flour. Try it, but not more than about 2-3 tablespoons. I'd probably mix it with the meat rather than soaking it with the milk and egg first. It might clump together and start to form a board or something. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Arizona vacation pics added 3-24-05. "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner, performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005. |
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My mother used to make a recipe similar to this. I plan on giving this
newly found recipe a try later this week. As to meat loaf falling apart, it's best to let the meat loaf rest a few minutes before removing from the pan and cutting. Mary who used to post here as smile... * Exported from MasterCook * Top-Stove Meat Loaf Recipe By : Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Beef Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1 1/2 pounds ground beef 1/2 cup dry bread crumbs -- fine 10 3/4 ounces tomato soup, condensed 1/4 cup finely chopped onion 1 egg -- slightly beaten 1/2 teaspoon salt dash pepper -- generous dash 1 tablespoon shortening 1/4 cup water 1/2 teaspoon prepared mustard -- processed cheese 2 slices American cheese Mix thoroughly beef, crumbs, 1/4 cup soup, onion, egg and seasonings. Shape firmly into 2 loaves; brown on both sides in skillet in shortening (to turn loaves use a pancake turner). Cover; cook over low heat 25 minutes. Spoon off fat. Stir in remaining soup, water, mustard. Top loaves with cheese. Uncover; cook 10 minutes. Serves 4 to 6. Oven Method: Mix and shape as above. Bake at 350 degrees F for 40 minutes. Spoon off fat. Pour remaining soup (omit water) mixed with mustard on loaves; top with cheese. Bake until cheese melts. Serves 4 to 6. Description: "Campbell Soup" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 596 Calories; 46g Fat (69.9% calories from fat); 30g Protein; 15g Carbohydrate; 1g Dietary Fiber; 163mg Cholesterol; 1167mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 Grain(Starch); 4 Lean Meat; 0 Vegetable; 7 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates. Nutr. Assoc. : 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 |
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![]() "Selma Jane" > wrote in message ... > Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > Have you ever made it that way? > I think of meat loaf as a dry roasted item. When you make a pot roast, on the stove top or in the oven, it is braised. That it, you brown the meat, add liquid, and slow cook it. The idea is to let the moist heat dissolved the tough connective tissue and turn a less expensive, tough cut into something tender and flavorful. Grinding the meat for meat loaf accomplishes the tenderizing. Dry roasting something on the stove seems at best inefficient and probably dangerous as it would require constant attention. I am aware of someone who cooks meat loaf in a pressure cooker. I find that unappealing as it doesn't allow for any browning and probably yields a ghastly gray lump of meat. Rather than making a meatloaf in liquid on the stove top, I would probably just make meatballs - same thing, but you can brown them first which makes them more attractive and more flavorful. Just my opinion. |
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![]() "Selma Jane" > wrote in message ... > Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > Have you ever made it that way? > I think of meat loaf as a dry roasted item. When you make a pot roast, on the stove top or in the oven, it is braised. That it, you brown the meat, add liquid, and slow cook it. The idea is to let the moist heat dissolved the tough connective tissue and turn a less expensive, tough cut into something tender and flavorful. Grinding the meat for meat loaf accomplishes the tenderizing. Dry roasting something on the stove seems at best inefficient and probably dangerous as it would require constant attention. I am aware of someone who cooks meat loaf in a pressure cooker. I find that unappealing as it doesn't allow for any browning and probably yields a ghastly gray lump of meat. Rather than making a meatloaf in liquid on the stove top, I would probably just make meatballs - same thing, but you can brown them first which makes them more attractive and more flavorful. Just my opinion. |
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"Vox Humana" > wrote in
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![]() "Matt G" > wrote in message ... > "Vox Humana" > wrote in > : > > > I think of meat loaf as a dry roasted item. > > > I like it better with brown gravy. > You can make the gravy with the pan drippings > |
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Selma Jane wrote:
> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > > Have you ever made it that way? > > Selma Jane "Salisbury steak" or "Danish meat patties" (recipe on request) can be sautéed, fried, or cooked this way, though often times they are "broiled" or baked. The sauté or fry method allows for the making of an quick and easy & tasty sauce. One time i was making meat loaf and half way through the process got distracted, forgot what i was doing and went back to finish and made hamburgers with the meat loaf mix, fried them up in a pan and served on a toasted bun with lettuce, mayo, sliced red onion & tomato. Was very good. --- Joseph Littleshoes |
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![]() "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message ... > Selma Jane wrote: > > > Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > > > > Have you ever made it that way? > > > > Selma Jane > > "Salisbury steak" or "Danish meat patties" (recipe on request) can be > sautéed, fried, or cooked this way, though often times they are > "broiled" or baked. The sauté or fry method allows for the making of an > quick and easy & tasty sauce. > > One time i was making meat loaf and half way through the process got > distracted, forgot what i was doing and went back to finish and made > hamburgers with the meat loaf mix, fried them up in a pan and served on > a toasted bun with lettuce, mayo, sliced red onion & tomato. Was very > good. I've seen that referred to as "hobo steak." |
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![]() "Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote in message ... > Selma Jane wrote: > > > Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > > But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > > > > Have you ever made it that way? > > > > Selma Jane > > "Salisbury steak" or "Danish meat patties" (recipe on request) can be > sautéed, fried, or cooked this way, though often times they are > "broiled" or baked. The sauté or fry method allows for the making of an > quick and easy & tasty sauce. > > One time i was making meat loaf and half way through the process got > distracted, forgot what i was doing and went back to finish and made > hamburgers with the meat loaf mix, fried them up in a pan and served on > a toasted bun with lettuce, mayo, sliced red onion & tomato. Was very > good. I've seen that referred to as "hobo steak." |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:59:49 GMT
Dog3 > wrote: > "jmcquown" > wrote in > : > > > Selma Jane wrote: > >> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > >> But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > >> Have you ever made it that way? > >> > >> Selma Jane > > > > I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a > > crock pot. Never tried that, either. > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > I'm afraid if I made it in a crock pot it would be glop. Never made it on > > the stove either. I wonder how that would turn out. The book that comes with a Crock Pot(tm) claims that you can cook anything in it very well, even bread. I say it's all just a crock. It's no more of a universal cooker than an Amana Radar Range, which of course has cookbooks available that explain how you can cook anything in it very well. Every job has it's appropriate tools. You can make meatloaf on your car's exaust manifold - that doesn't mean you should. Most of this discussion seems to revolve around meatloaf baked inside a pan - the other method is to use a pan to form it and then turn it out onto a flat baking sheet that has a lip, and liberally apply a tomato-based glaze. This allows the fat to run out and promotes crust formation. You can use any heat source you like to cook your food. Some will provide better results than others for some foods. I don't think meatloaf is easily applied to stovetop cooking. That doesn't mean you can't, or that your uncle Delbert's pressure cooker meatloaf isn't delish, it means that I'm not about to try it or advise anyone else to try it. |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:59:49 GMT
Dog3 > wrote: > "jmcquown" > wrote in > : > > > Selma Jane wrote: > >> Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > >> But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > >> Have you ever made it that way? > >> > >> Selma Jane > > > > I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a > > crock pot. Never tried that, either. > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > I'm afraid if I made it in a crock pot it would be glop. Never made it on > > the stove either. I wonder how that would turn out. The book that comes with a Crock Pot(tm) claims that you can cook anything in it very well, even bread. I say it's all just a crock. It's no more of a universal cooker than an Amana Radar Range, which of course has cookbooks available that explain how you can cook anything in it very well. Every job has it's appropriate tools. You can make meatloaf on your car's exaust manifold - that doesn't mean you should. Most of this discussion seems to revolve around meatloaf baked inside a pan - the other method is to use a pan to form it and then turn it out onto a flat baking sheet that has a lip, and liberally apply a tomato-based glaze. This allows the fat to run out and promotes crust formation. You can use any heat source you like to cook your food. Some will provide better results than others for some foods. I don't think meatloaf is easily applied to stovetop cooking. That doesn't mean you can't, or that your uncle Delbert's pressure cooker meatloaf isn't delish, it means that I'm not about to try it or advise anyone else to try it. |
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Actually my mother's recipe was fairly decent. It was a moist meat loaf, not like oven baked, but decent. We ate the meat loaf a lot during summer because firing up the oven when it was 118 degrees outside didn't appeal. She had five young children to feed so meat loaf was a popular meal. You are right about the right equipment does determine how the finished product will turn out. I have made meat loaf in the microwave (when it was 118 degrees outside) and the product was tasty but not like oven baked meat loaf. I've also made muffins and cakes in the microwave for the same reason. Both turned out well but not exactly like their oven baked counter parts. Good but not the same. Slow cookers are good for pot roasts, soups and some sauces. Anything that benefits from simmering and slow cooking are good candidates for the crock pot. Mary Mary |
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Actually my mother's recipe was fairly decent. It was a moist meat loaf, not like oven baked, but decent. We ate the meat loaf a lot during summer because firing up the oven when it was 118 degrees outside didn't appeal. She had five young children to feed so meat loaf was a popular meal. You are right about the right equipment does determine how the finished product will turn out. I have made meat loaf in the microwave (when it was 118 degrees outside) and the product was tasty but not like oven baked meat loaf. I've also made muffins and cakes in the microwave for the same reason. Both turned out well but not exactly like their oven baked counter parts. Good but not the same. Slow cookers are good for pot roasts, soups and some sauces. Anything that benefits from simmering and slow cooking are good candidates for the crock pot. Mary Mary |
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Meat loaf works extremely well in a crock pot. My question is, why do
you all insist on cross posting this in rec.woodworking? Dog3 wrote: > "jmcquown" > wrote in > : > > >>Selma Jane wrote: >> >>>Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. >>>But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. >>>Have you ever made it that way? >>> >>>Selma Jane >> >>I've never tried it. I've heard of some people doing meatloaf in a crock >>pot. Never tried that, either. >> >>Jill >> >> >> > > > I'm afraid if I made it in a crock pot it would be glop. Never made it on > the stove either. I wonder how that would turn out. > > Michael > |
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![]() "Mash" > wrote in message ups.com... > "X-No-Archive: yes" > > > Actually my mother's recipe was fairly decent. It was a moist meat > loaf, not like oven baked, but decent. We ate the meat loaf a lot > during summer because firing up the oven when it was 118 degrees > outside didn't appeal. She had five young children to feed so meat loaf > was a popular meal. > I would rather fire up the oven in hot weather than braise something for hours on the range top. At least the oven is insulated. |
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On 29 Mar 2005 16:31:10 -0800
"Mash" > wrote: > "X-No-Archive: yes" You know, google groups won't recognize (and won't obey) this if there are ANY blank lines between it and the regular headers. And especially not in quotes. It just makes you look like a doofus. I guarantee that your message was archived. |
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Actually the meat loaf doesn't take hours to braise...and believe me you don't want the oven running when the temps are in triple digits unless you are wealthy and can afford an AC. Mary |
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Actually the meat loaf doesn't take hours to braise...and believe me you don't want the oven running when the temps are in triple digits unless you are wealthy and can afford an AC. Mary |
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On 29 Mar 2005 17:02:03 -0800
"Mash" > wrote: > X-No-Archive: yes Why do people do this, anyway? some sort of bizarre paranoia? > Actually the meat loaf doesn't take hours to braise...and believe me > you don't want the oven running when the temps are in triple digits > unless you are wealthy and can afford an AC. Hey, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. |
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![]() "Mash" > wrote in message ups.com... > X-No-Archive: yes > Actually the meat loaf doesn't take hours to braise...and believe me > you don't want the oven running when the temps are in triple digits > unless you are wealthy and can afford an AC. If the heat is such an issue, then I would cook outside. |
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![]() "Mash" > wrote in message ups.com... > X-No-Archive: yes > Actually the meat loaf doesn't take hours to braise...and believe me > you don't want the oven running when the temps are in triple digits > unless you are wealthy and can afford an AC. If the heat is such an issue, then I would cook outside. |
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Years ago I had a glass ring dish (like an angel food cake pan) that
made a decent meat loaf in the microwave....don't know what happened to it, or I'd try it again...Sharon Mash wrote: > > "X-No-Archive: yes" > > Actually my mother's recipe was fairly decent. It was a moist meat > loaf, not like oven baked, but decent. We ate the meat loaf a lot > during summer because firing up the oven when it was 118 degrees > outside didn't appeal. She had five young children to feed so meat loaf > was a popular meal. > > You are right about the right equipment does determine how the finished > product will turn out. I have made meat loaf in the microwave (when it > was 118 degrees outside) and the product was tasty but not like oven > baked meat loaf. I've also made muffins and cakes in the microwave for > the same reason. Both turned out well but not exactly like their oven > baked counter parts. Good but not the same. > > Slow cookers are good for pot roasts, soups and some sauces. Anything > that benefits from simmering and slow cooking are good candidates for > the crock pot. > > Mary > Mary |
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Years ago I had a glass ring dish (like an angel food cake pan) that
made a decent meat loaf in the microwave....don't know what happened to it, or I'd try it again...Sharon Mash wrote: > > "X-No-Archive: yes" > > Actually my mother's recipe was fairly decent. It was a moist meat > loaf, not like oven baked, but decent. We ate the meat loaf a lot > during summer because firing up the oven when it was 118 degrees > outside didn't appeal. She had five young children to feed so meat loaf > was a popular meal. > > You are right about the right equipment does determine how the finished > product will turn out. I have made meat loaf in the microwave (when it > was 118 degrees outside) and the product was tasty but not like oven > baked meat loaf. I've also made muffins and cakes in the microwave for > the same reason. Both turned out well but not exactly like their oven > baked counter parts. Good but not the same. > > Slow cookers are good for pot roasts, soups and some sauces. Anything > that benefits from simmering and slow cooking are good candidates for > the crock pot. > > Mary > Mary |
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![]() <Alan > wrote in message news ![]() > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:51:49 +0000 (UTC), "Selma Jane" > > wrote: > > >Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > >But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > >Have you ever made it that way? > > > >Selma Jane > > > Well, if you're wanting to do something 'different' here's yet another way. > From rec.food.recipes > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- > > Muffin-tin meatloaf: > > From: > I hear of people using muffin tins to cook their meatloaf. > It is supposed to cook the meatloaf quicker + it gives individual > portions and crispy tops. Iam looking for a meatloaf recipe to cook > them in muffin tins instead of a loaf > > > Muffin Tin Meat Loaf > > 2 large eggs > 1 pound ground beef > 1 cup bread crumbs > 1/2 cup milk > 1/2 can tomato soup > > Mix well. Heap into sprayed muffin tins. Top with remainder of tomato > soup to serve. Heat it with a few chopped onions if you wish. This is reminiscent of something we had in the school cafeteria. |
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:01:45 -0600
Alan wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:51:49 +0000 (UTC), "Selma Jane" > > wrote: > > >Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the oven. > >But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot roast. > >Have you ever made it that way? > > > >Selma Jane > > > Well, if you're wanting to do something 'different' here's yet another > way. From rec.food.recipes > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------- > > Muffin-tin meatloaf: > > From: > I hear of people using muffin tins to cook their meatloaf. > It is supposed to cook the meatloaf quicker + it gives individual > portions and crispy tops. Iam looking for a meatloaf recipe to cook > them in muffin tins instead of a loaf how's that different from really big meatballs that are sorta wet on the bottom? |
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Eric Jorgensen wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:01:45 -0600 > Alan wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:51:49 +0000 (UTC), "Selma Jane" > > > > wrote: > > > > >Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the > oven. > > >But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot > roast. > > >Have you ever made it that way? > > > > > >Selma Jane > > > > > > Well, if you're wanting to do something 'different' here's yet > another > > way. From rec.food.recipes > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----------------------- > > > > Muffin-tin meatloaf: > > > > From: > > I hear of people using muffin tins to cook their meatloaf. > > It is supposed to cook the meatloaf quicker + it gives individual > > portions and crispy tops. Iam looking for a meatloaf recipe to cook > > them in muffin tins instead of a loaf > > how's that different from really big meatballs that are sorta wet > on the > bottom? I like to line the muffin tin with thin slices of home made bread, which are then lightly toasted first. Then i use a fish or other seafood "stuffing" mix, panada "force meat" & etc. to fill & bake the the toasted & buttered bread cups. Beats making a bunch of individual pastry dough cases to fill with various meat mixes. Personally a baked green pepper stuffed with a bread stuffing flavoured with anchovy is a favourite of mine. --- Joseph (recipes on request) Littleshoes |
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Eric Jorgensen wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:01:45 -0600 > Alan wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:51:49 +0000 (UTC), "Selma Jane" > > > > wrote: > > > > >Of course, the traditional way to prepare a meat loaf is in the > oven. > > >But I've heard of some people making it on the stove like a pot > roast. > > >Have you ever made it that way? > > > > > >Selma Jane > > > > > > Well, if you're wanting to do something 'different' here's yet > another > > way. From rec.food.recipes > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----------------------- > > > > Muffin-tin meatloaf: > > > > From: > > I hear of people using muffin tins to cook their meatloaf. > > It is supposed to cook the meatloaf quicker + it gives individual > > portions and crispy tops. Iam looking for a meatloaf recipe to cook > > them in muffin tins instead of a loaf > > how's that different from really big meatballs that are sorta wet > on the > bottom? I like to line the muffin tin with thin slices of home made bread, which are then lightly toasted first. Then i use a fish or other seafood "stuffing" mix, panada "force meat" & etc. to fill & bake the the toasted & buttered bread cups. Beats making a bunch of individual pastry dough cases to fill with various meat mixes. Personally a baked green pepper stuffed with a bread stuffing flavoured with anchovy is a favourite of mine. --- Joseph (recipes on request) Littleshoes |
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