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Baking (rec.food.baking) For bakers, would-be bakers, and fans and consumers of breads, pastries, cakes, pies, cookies, crackers, bagels, and other items commonly found in a bakery. Includes all methods of preparation, both conventional and not. |
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Cakes are EVIL, they're the work of the devil, made to collect your
souls and to turn you into brainless slaves of hell. If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul for all eternity. So stop supporting this evil now to save your soul. Or the holy inquisition will come for you and burn your flesh to save your soul, because the devil must not collect more souls or nobody can prevent Armageddon. Cakes are evil, baking cakes is BLASPHEMY , only heretics and witches like cakes.And heretics and witches shall BURN ! |
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"Ted Harvard" quipped:
> If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned > for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul > for all eternity. Well no shit, Sherlock! <live dangerously, dammit!> |
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Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and Devil's
Food cake? -- Denise "Pennyaline" > wrote in message ... > "Ted Harvard" quipped: > > If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned > > for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul > > for all eternity. > > Well no shit, Sherlock! > > <live dangerously, dammit!> > > > > > |
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![]() "Ted Harvard" > wrote in message om... > Cakes are EVIL, they're the work of the devil, made to collect your > souls and to turn you into brainless slaves of hell. > > If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned > for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul > for all eternity. > > So stop supporting this evil now to save your soul. > > Or the holy inquisition will come for you and burn your flesh to save > your soul, because the devil must not collect more souls or nobody can > prevent Armageddon. > > Cakes are evil, baking cakes is BLASPHEMY , only heretics and > witches like cakes.And heretics and witches shall BURN ! Have you approached the RNC. I'm sure that there is a political office you could fill in the Bible Belt. Rick Santorum can't live forever. |
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I dont' know the "scientific" difference :-) But to me, a chocolate
cake is more moist and flavorful, whereas Devil's food is kinda dry and slightly bland. But those are just my taste buds speaking. "Denise" > wrote in message ... > Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and Devil's > Food cake? > > -- > > > Denise > > > "Pennyaline" > wrote in > message ... > > "Ted Harvard" quipped: > > > If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned > > > for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul > > > for all eternity. > > > > Well no shit, Sherlock! > > > > <live dangerously, dammit!> > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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NOTE: My Correct Address is in my signature (just remove the spaces).
On 22 Jun 2004 17:32:13 -0700, (Ted Harvard) wrote: >Cakes are evil, baking cakes is BLASPHEMY , only heretics and >witches like cakes.And heretics and witches shall BURN ! Even if I only make Angel's Food Cake?????? -- Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady) <davidac AT jdc DOT org DOT il> ~*~*~*~*~*~ "What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of chocolate." --Katharine Hepburn (May 12, 1907 - June 29, 2003) ~*~*~*~*~*~ |
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![]() "Darrell Grainger" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Denise wrote: > > > Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and Devil's > > Food cake? > > I've never thought about this before but I'd hazard the guess that it is > the ratio of butter:flour:sugar, by weight. A devil's food cake tends to > have more sugar. A ratio of 1:1:2 for a devil's food cake. A typical > chocolate layer cake would have closer to a 1:1:1 ratio. > > Hmm, now you have me wondering. It thought it was the pH of the batter, which results in a difference in color between the two. |
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at Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:41:56 GMT in
>, (Denise) wrote : >Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and >Devil's Food cake? > Technically, a Devil's Food cake is made with natural-process (i.e. non- Dutch) cocoa. It also always uses chocolate frosting. And from what I've experienced, the cake is a specific type, sort of medium-dense and fairly airy - i.e. it's not similar to a flourless chocolate cake, or a sponge cake, or a pound cake. A chocolate cake is a more broad term and generally covers a cake made with any combination of chocolate, natural-process cocoa, and Dutch cocoa. I personally think it might be best to reserve the term "chocolate cake" to one made specifically with chocolate as opposed to cocoa, but that suggests one would need a term for a cake made with Dutch cocoa. And in addition, there are cakes made with combinations of cocoas and chocolate. -- Alex Rast (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply) |
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(Alex Rast) wrote in message >...
> at Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:41:56 GMT in > >, > (Denise) wrote : > > >Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and > >Devil's Food cake? > > > > Technically, a Devil's Food cake is made with natural-process (i.e. non- > Dutch) cocoa. It also always uses chocolate frosting. And from what I've > experienced, the cake is a specific type, sort of medium-dense and fairly > airy - i.e. it's not similar to a flourless chocolate cake, or a sponge > cake, or a pound cake. > > In my experience devils food cake are made with cocoa powder,( either natural or dutched). And if you use even melted dark chocolate) to the recipe then you can start calling the baked cake as chocolate cake.All of these are flour based cakes not flourless cakes. But if using a natural cocoa you have to use more baking soda in order to attain the desired reddish crumb colour of the baked cake( alkaline batter) to qualify it as a devils food cake. You can also use a dutched cocoa and add no (or less )soda at all but use more baking powder instead as the dutch cocoa alkalinity will already provide the desired reddish tinge on the cake crumb. Roy |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Vox Humana wrote:
> "Darrell Grainger" > wrote in message > ... > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Denise wrote: > > > > > Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and > > > Devil's Food cake? > > > > I've never thought about this before but I'd hazard the guess that it is > > the ratio of butter:flour:sugar, by weight. A devil's food cake tends to > > have more sugar. A ratio of 1:1:2 for a devil's food cake. A typical > > chocolate layer cake would have closer to a 1:1:1 ratio. > > > > Hmm, now you have me wondering. > > It thought it was the pH of the batter, which results in a difference in > color between the two. Did some research on the web. Here is what I found... There is no common answer. Some people claim that Devil's Food cake has a high cocoa and fat contents, making it more sinful. Others claim it is the devilishly red hue caused by a reaction between the cocoa and baking soda. Other sources claim it is due to the high cocoa content that gives the black, rich colour associated with "black as the devil." I think the favourite site I found was the Morris County Library at http://www.gti.net/mocolib1/kid/foodcakes.html. It talks a lot about the history of cakes and actually has the question "What is the difference between chocolate cake and devil's food?" -- Send e-mail to: darrell at cs dot toronto dot edu Don't send e-mail to |
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at Thu, 24 Jun 2004 05:41:26 GMT in
>, (Roy Basan) wrote : (Alex Rast) wrote in message >.. . >> at Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:41:56 GMT in >> >, >> (Denise) wrote : >> >> >Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and >> >Devil's Food cake? >> > >> >> Technically, a Devil's Food cake is made with natural-process (i.e. >> non- Dutch) cocoa.... >But if using a natural cocoa you have to use more baking soda in order >to attain the desired reddish crumb colour of the baked cake( >alkaline batter) to qualify it as a devils food cake. >You can also use a dutched cocoa and add no (or less )soda at all but >use more baking powder instead as the dutch cocoa alkalinity will >already provide the desired reddish tinge on the cake crumb. > Isn't it the reverse? Natural-process cocoa is the one that's red from the outset. Dutch cocoa straight from the can or bag is a greyish-brown, and once it's had liquid added becomes almost black in colour - hence the signature black and white of Oreos which are made with Dutch cocoa. However, it is true to say that with a natural-process cocoa you should lean your leavening agents towards baking soda as it is indeed considerably more acid. -- Alex Rast (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply) |
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(Alex Rast) wrote in message >...
> at Thu, 24 Jun 2004 05:41:26 GMT in > >, > (Roy Basan) wrote : > > (Alex Rast) wrote in message > >.. . > >> at Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:41:56 GMT in > >> >, > >> (Denise) wrote : > >> > >> >Speaking of which, what is the difference between chocolate cake and > >> >Devil's Food cake? > >> > > >> > >> Technically, a Devil's Food cake is made with natural-process (i.e. > >> non- Dutch) cocoa.... > > >But if using a natural cocoa you have to use more baking soda in order > >to attain the desired reddish crumb colour of the baked cake( > >alkaline batter) to qualify it as a devils food cake. > >You can also use a dutched cocoa and add no (or less )soda at all but > >use more baking powder instead as the dutch cocoa alkalinity will > >already provide the desired reddish tinge on the cake crumb. > > > Isn't it the reverse? Natural-process cocoa is the one that's red from the > outset. Dutch cocoa straight from the can or bag is a greyish-brown, and > once it's had liquid added becomes almost black in colour - hence the > signature black and white of Oreos which are made with Dutch cocoa. > > However, it is true to say that with a natural-process cocoa you should > lean your leavening agents towards baking soda as it is indeed considerably > more acid. It is just contrary to my past experience. I have used so many kinds of cocoa powder in industrial baking, prepared cake mix formulation. and confectionery cooking. If I compare side by side the cocoa from one variety of bean that is both roasted to the same degree but of different level of dutching process I noticed that as the higher alkalinity level the cocoa tends to be come more reddish in colour. In the opposite , if the cocoa is more acid it ends to be deeper brown than red.. Whenver I inquiere to my supplier and cocoa manufacturer they always send me the dutched item if I want a deeper red colored cocoa powder. and if I want a more brownish colour they send me the natural grade. But they always send me sample shipment that can be a collection of cocoas with different colour and pH rating. And I have to find the one that match my requirements. IF I look at the product specification I can confirm that its either natural or dutched by the declared pH reading of such cocoa powder. Roy |
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Brian Seeger wrote:
> (Ted Harvard) wrote: > > >>Cakes are EVIL, they're the work of the devil, > > > Ted...see your medical professional very soon...before your cake falls in the > oven. I think his cake fell a long time ago... -- ..-. .-. .---. .---. .-..-.|Experts in Linux/Unix: www.WildOpenSource.com | |__ / | \| |-< | |-< > / |"Making the bazaar more commonplace" `----'`-^-'`-'`-'`-'`-' `-' |Check out my new novel: "Cloud Realm" at: home:www.smith-house.org:8000|http://www.smith-house.org:8000/books/list.html |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:32:13 -0700, Ted Harvard wrote:
> Cakes are EVIL, they're the work of the devil, made to collect your > souls and to turn you into brainless slaves of hell. > > If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned > for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul > for all eternity. > > So stop supporting this evil now to save your soul. > > Or the holy inquisition will come for you and burn your flesh to save > your soul, because the devil must not collect more souls or nobody can > prevent Armageddon. > > Cakes are evil, baking cakes is BLASPHEMY , only heretics and > witches like cakes.And heretics and witches shall BURN ! Better caked than trolled!! |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:32:13 -0700, Ted Harvard wrote:
> Cakes are EVIL, they're the work of the devil, made to collect your > souls and to turn you into brainless slaves of hell. > > If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned > for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul > for all eternity. > > So stop supporting this evil now to save your soul. > > Or the holy inquisition will come for you and burn your flesh to save > your soul, because the devil must not collect more souls or nobody can > prevent Armageddon. > > Cakes are evil, baking cakes is BLASPHEMY , only heretics and > witches like cakes.And heretics and witches shall BURN ! Better caked than trolled!! |
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michael wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:32:13 -0700, Ted Harvard wrote: > > >>Cakes are EVIL, they're the work of the devil, made to collect your >>souls and to turn you into brainless slaves of hell. >> >>If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned >>for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul >>for all eternity. >> >>So stop supporting this evil now to save your soul. >> >>Or the holy inquisition will come for you and burn your flesh to save >>your soul, because the devil must not collect more souls or nobody can >>prevent Armageddon. >> >>Cakes are evil, baking cakes is BLASPHEMY , only heretics and >>witches like cakes.And heretics and witches shall BURN ! > > > Better caked than trolled!! > You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. G Cook, RD |
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michael wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:32:13 -0700, Ted Harvard wrote: > > >>Cakes are EVIL, they're the work of the devil, made to collect your >>souls and to turn you into brainless slaves of hell. >> >>If you like cakes, you will lose your soul to be damned >>for eternal torment in hell.Demons and devils will feast on your soul >>for all eternity. >> >>So stop supporting this evil now to save your soul. >> >>Or the holy inquisition will come for you and burn your flesh to save >>your soul, because the devil must not collect more souls or nobody can >>prevent Armageddon. >> >>Cakes are evil, baking cakes is BLASPHEMY , only heretics and >>witches like cakes.And heretics and witches shall BURN ! > > > Better caked than trolled!! > You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. G Cook, RD |
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![]() "Gloria G Cook" > wrote in message ... > michael wrote: > >> > You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. > > G Cook, RD It is said that god created Angel Food Cake, a light, relatively low calory and healthy repast. Then satan added chocolate to it and made it the richer Devil's Food Cake and man got fatter and fatter<g> Graham |
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![]() "Gloria G Cook" > wrote in message ... > michael wrote: > >> > You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. > > G Cook, RD It is said that god created Angel Food Cake, a light, relatively low calory and healthy repast. Then satan added chocolate to it and made it the richer Devil's Food Cake and man got fatter and fatter<g> Graham |
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"graham" > wrote in message news:<U8aZc.289632$gE.56378@pd7tw3no>...
> "Gloria G Cook" > wrote in message > ... > > michael wrote: > > > >> > > You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. > > > > G Cook, RD > > It is said that god created Angel Food Cake, a light, relatively low calory > and healthy repast. > Graham Figuratively speaking it can be true; the angel cake is light( batter specific gravity is 0.3),it is the gift from the heavens<g> while the devils food is heavy ,batter gravity usually approaches 1.0 ....a gift from Hades<g>. >Then satan added chocolate to it and made it the richer > Devil's Food Cake and man got fatter and fatter<g> And there is a grain of truth in that as well..... the calorific content of the devils food should higher than the angel food due to the presence of fat in the former (and its bulkiness) which is absent in the latter.Therefore slice for slice basis of the same volume there is more calories in the devils food than in the angel food cake. Roy |
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"graham" > wrote in message news:<U8aZc.289632$gE.56378@pd7tw3no>...
> "Gloria G Cook" > wrote in message > ... > > michael wrote: > > > >> > > You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. > > > > G Cook, RD > > It is said that god created Angel Food Cake, a light, relatively low calory > and healthy repast. > Graham Figuratively speaking it can be true; the angel cake is light( batter specific gravity is 0.3),it is the gift from the heavens<g> while the devils food is heavy ,batter gravity usually approaches 1.0 ....a gift from Hades<g>. >Then satan added chocolate to it and made it the richer > Devil's Food Cake and man got fatter and fatter<g> And there is a grain of truth in that as well..... the calorific content of the devils food should higher than the angel food due to the presence of fat in the former (and its bulkiness) which is absent in the latter.Therefore slice for slice basis of the same volume there is more calories in the devils food than in the angel food cake. Roy |
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![]() "Static I" > wrote in message ... > > "graham" > >Date: 8/31/2004 9:06 PM Central Standard Time > >Message-id: <U8aZc.289632$gE.56378@pd7tw3no> > > > > > >"Gloria G Cook" > wrote in message > ... > >> michael wrote: > >> > >>> > >> You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. > >> > >> G Cook, RD > > > >It is said that god created Angel Food Cake, a light, relatively low calory > >and healthy repast. Then satan added chocolate to it and made it the richer > >Devil's Food Cake and man got fatter and fatter<g> > >Graham > > > > I wish you hadn't said that. My neighbors will take it as evidence that god is > a Southerner. Judging from the number of "large" people I once saw in Houston, the devil is winning, hands down<g> Graham |
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![]() "Static I" > wrote in message ... > > "graham" > >Date: 8/31/2004 9:06 PM Central Standard Time > >Message-id: <U8aZc.289632$gE.56378@pd7tw3no> > > > > > >"Gloria G Cook" > wrote in message > ... > >> michael wrote: > >> > >>> > >> You must be on that stupid low carb/no carb diet. > >> > >> G Cook, RD > > > >It is said that god created Angel Food Cake, a light, relatively low calory > >and healthy repast. Then satan added chocolate to it and made it the richer > >Devil's Food Cake and man got fatter and fatter<g> > >Graham > > > > I wish you hadn't said that. My neighbors will take it as evidence that god is > a Southerner. Judging from the number of "large" people I once saw in Houston, the devil is winning, hands down<g> Graham |
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NOTE: My Correct Address is in my signature (just remove the spaces).
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:13:30 GMT, "RunningWolf" > wrote: >This is a joke Right?? If not I must be going to hell, lol! Probably, but you'll be in very good company! -- Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady) <davidac AT jdc DOT org DOT il> ~*~*~*~*~*~ "What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of chocolate." --Katharine Hepburn (May 12, 1907 - June 29, 2003) ~*~*~*~*~*~ |
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NOTE: My Correct Address is in my signature (just remove the spaces).
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:13:30 GMT, "RunningWolf" > wrote: >This is a joke Right?? If not I must be going to hell, lol! Probably, but you'll be in very good company! -- Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady) <davidac AT jdc DOT org DOT il> ~*~*~*~*~*~ "What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of chocolate." --Katharine Hepburn (May 12, 1907 - June 29, 2003) ~*~*~*~*~*~ |
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