>Then why can't you do the same here? And this answer of yours evades the
..>basic questions. Why can't you ever post anything here without taking

>shots - and excusing yourself from when you posts nastiness?

Bobby boy,
I have been posting in this group for many years and I remember
vividly that the only people I offended are the shallow ones; therefore
this led me to ask .... Does it mean you are one of them?...

If it happen.... you have not read any of my post ...I was wondering
if you are wearing horse blinkers with your reading glasses ...?
But there is a saying....its difficult to wake up a person that is
already awake but pretending to be asleep...nor to show something
important to a person who is disinterested it.
Its up to you choose where do you belong...

>You obviously have a great deal of knowledge, yet you cheapen all those
>years of study and experience by taking unnecessary shots at people -
>people who aren't trying to engage you in dispute. I think it's
>unfortunate that you spend even a moment doing this.

If I happen to have such knowledge..(but I don't claim such..)..It
is just if I know certain answer to a question of a certain poster
then why withheld it when I cannot carry the answer (or that knowledge)
to my grave....?

..I don't think that offending petty people degraded my value....in
the same manner that stained gold coin does not reduces its worth ...it
is still real GOLD ..inside.
I am still the same guy who happens to know the t answers to many
difficult questions
....
Besides dispute and argument add pizzazz....to a sometimes boring
group in certain times it become stale due to lack of post... why
hide the fireworks.display ..when its occasionally seen?

chembake wrote:

>>Then why can't you do the same here? And this answer of yours evades the
>>basic questions. Why can't you ever post anything here without taking
>>shots - and excusing yourself from when you posts nastiness?
>
> Bobby boy,
> I have been posting in this group for many years and I remember
> vividly that the only people I offended are the shallow ones; therefore
> this led me to ask .... Does it mean you are one of them?...

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Precisely, exactly,
completely what I'm talking about

Say smug, nasty shit and then excuse yourself for it. As though it
somehow demonstrates anything but a crippled and cramped mind. As though
it were reasonable and useful to behave this way.

This whole post from you is utterly unnecessary. Offers no information.
Only promotes the supercilious nastiness you seem to think is the
hallmark of civilized discourse. Or your discourse, anyway.

> If it happen.... you have not read any of my post ...I was wondering
> if you are wearing horse blinkers with your reading glasses ...?
> But there is a saying....its difficult to wake up a person that is
> already awake but pretending to be asleep...

<LOL> Not only nasty and a blowhard, but an inventor of "sayings." Bwah...

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't grow moss on a rock. Oh,
look. I invented a "saying" just as meaningful.

Or maybe a Zen sort of question like "What is the sound of one hand
clapping." Here we go... "Which is quicker, to New York or by train?"
Grasshopper.

Phony locutions like you're trying to foist off as substantial, collapse
under their own weight of bullshit. You can't excuse your petty
vulgarity with "sayings."

> nor to show something
> important to a person who is disinterested it.
> Its up to you choose where do you belong...

Oh, right. Reading your ugly malice is "something important." I can
assure you, I'm "disinterested" in your continuing viciousness and
gratuitous self-congratulations.

Could you actually believe that your pointless insults are "something
important?" Really...?

>>You obviously have a great deal of knowledge, yet you cheapen all those
>>years of study and experience by taking unnecessary shots at people -
>>people who aren't trying to engage you in dispute. I think it's
>>unfortunate that you spend even a moment doing this.
>
> If I happen to have such knowledge..(but I don't claim such..)..

Of course you do. Your false humility rings no more true than your
shabby insults. You claim it in this post when you talk about "something
important" coming from you. That you put out wisdom, and "petty" people
miss it.

You seem to think that not calling you on your trivial viciousness is
somehow to endorse it. That if people don't protest, it means they like
it. It's more like you'll be gratuitously nasty no matter what anyone
says, so it's useless to even try to say anything to you. That you're so
convinced of your exalted place, that you can say anything and everyone
will admire you for it. How astonishingly self-deluding.

> It
> is just if I know certain answer to a question of a certain poster
> then why withheld it when I cannot carry the answer (or that knowledge)
> to my grave....?

No reason. That's the whole point that is slipping past you. That
sharing that knowledge marks the civilized man. But, then you say stuff
like...

> ..I don't think that offending petty people degraded my value....

So only petty people will find your verbal vomit offensive? My how
wonderfully self-forgiving. And self-defining: if people find your
illiterate rantings offensive, they're automatically "petty."

My how imperious you are... "Let them eat cake..."

< in
> the same manner that stained gold coin does not reduces its worth ...it
> is still real GOLD ..inside.

But looks like shit outside and needs a good scouring to remove the
stains before it can assume it's true value.

> I am still the same guy who happens to know the t answers to many
> difficult questions
> ....
> Besides dispute and argument add pizzazz....to a sometimes boring
> group in certain times it become stale due to lack of post... why
> hide the fireworks.display ..when its occasionally seen?

How completely full of crap a thing to say.

So let me see if I understand you... Only shallow people find your
diatribes offensive. And that blind people are the ones that don't grasp
your great depths. And that there are sayings that forgive your
egregious word-violence. And that saying nasty stuff that offended
"petty" people (implying that everyone else just loooves your stylings)
doesn't diminish the value you bring to the group. (And besides, you
post lots of nice things to other groups, you seem to also imply.) And
that your vast storehouse of malice somehow adds "pizazz" to otherwise
civil discussion. "Fireworks" you say.

I once had a man make a reservation in one of my restaurants for 25 and
not show up. I called him and asked what happened. He said, "These
things happen." As though he wasn't totally responsible for it. Just
like you. As though it's somehow just another thing that happens and no
one is really responsible.

You're responsible for your own actions, even though you try to minimize
that fact.

Pastorio

><LOL> Not only nasty and a blowhard, but an inventor of "sayings." Bwah


As you never travel ...you are ignorant of the adages from other
countries....

>You can lead a horse to water, but you can't grow moss on a rock. Oh,
>look. I invented a "saying" just as meaningful.

Indeed you invented it....it should be a rolling stone gathers no
moss.....
You should have said..also ..you can't pull a stubborn donkey to cross
the river.but you can drag a hog to a muddy puddle.....that is more
appropriate to you.
That is why
You are in a soaked in a mire of your own ......may I ask did you find
pleasure in it like a pig?!

>You're responsible for your own actions, even though you try to minimize
>that fact.

Bob....you are creating the problem that bothers you....if you find
thatt my post pricks your onion skin and hurt you then that is your
problem....you should have not done this masochistic act.........

Indeed its confirmed you are petty person....A lot of those people
avoid me lke a plague<grin>.
As They don't mess with me therefore I don't make a mess out of
them....
then there is peaceful coexistence<grin>... and important issues are
discussed...instead..

In my workplaces .....petty people don't play with me due to their
hypersensitiveness to my barbs...but try to avoid it by talking what is
important fot the company's business. and other relevant matters....so
there is no disagreement...but mutual respect...

>Say smug, nasty shit and then excuse yourself for it. As though it
>somehow demonstrates anything but a crippled and cramped mind. As though
>it were reasonable and useful to behave this way

I reiterate.....what ever your opinions...about me......if that makes
you happy then rejoice...
It doesn't diminish my worth.....

Besides
I can't do nothing more to a shallow person ..I can maul him to no end
and he bleeds more....but what can I do if he has a masochistic turn
of mind...?

I believe
That is what happening to you...<grin>...

If You feel offended by my remarks......then stay away from me for your
health sake....

Just remember...there is no end to the venom I can spew on you...!

chembake wrote:

>><LOL> Not only nasty and a blowhard, but an inventor of "sayings." Bwah
>
> As you never travel ...you are ignorant of the adages from other
> countries....

<LOL> I've lived in six countries. I've visited a couple dozen. It looks
like you just make things up - pull your insults out of thin air. My
first language was Italian. Second, Sicilian. Then English. French.
Spanish, to speak to my relatives in Central America. A good bit of
Japanese. The odd bit of German, enough to get around the country.

Here, blowhard, a basic truth. For an insult to have any effect, it has
to have at least a modicum of truth.

>>You can lead a horse to water, but you can't grow moss on a rock. Oh,
>>look. I invented a "saying" just as meaningful.
>
> Indeed you invented it....it should be a rolling stone gathers no
> moss.....

How unutterably dense you are. I was mocking you by deliberately making
a hash of a "saying."

The tiny phrase "just as meaningful" should have given you a clue. It is
meaningless. Like yours was.

> You should have said..also ..you can't pull a stubborn donkey to cross
> the river.but you can drag a hog to a muddy puddle.....

<LOL> No doubt translated from the original Pee Wee Hermanish. How
simply and deliciously ridiculous. How meaningless.

> that is more appropriate to you.
> That is why
> You are in a soaked in a mire of your own ......may I ask did you find
> pleasure in it like a pig?!

How desperate you sound with such infantile efforts. Children in play
yards say things like this. Next, to keep the intellectual level up to
your peak, I expect you to say "I'm rubber. You're glue..."

>>You're responsible for your own actions, even though you try to minimize
>>that fact.
>
> Bob....you are creating the problem that bothers you....if you find
> thatt my post pricks your onion skin and hurt you then that is your
> problem....you should have not done this masochistic act.........

<LOL> And here you are claiming superior understanding. And then you say
something as basically stupid as this.

> Indeed its confirmed you are petty person....A lot of those people
> avoid me lke a plague<grin>.
> As They don't mess with me therefore I don't make a mess out of
> them....

In your dreams, illiterate one...

> then there is peaceful coexistence<grin>... and important issues are
> discussed...instead..

I thought you couldn't say anything more moronic than you already have,
but I was wrong.

Your blighted idea of "peaceful coexistence" is to be free to offer all
your crippled, insulting vulgarity to whomever you want, whenever you
want, and they remain silent. And that's your idiot definition of
"peaceful coexistence?"

And there you go with your boastful "important issues" which seem to
reside just in your ability to post splashes of your vast capacity for
denigration and humiliation on others.

> In my workplaces .....petty people don't play with me due to their
> hypersensitiveness to my barbs...but try to avoid it by talking what is
> important fot the company's business. and other relevant matters....so
> there is no disagreement...but mutual respect...

So let's see. Your barbs are the basis for respect? Could you be less
aware of the people around you? Could you have less understanding of the
real bases of respect? You are of the Hitleresque notion that if you hit
others hard, they will respect you. They may fear you. They may find you
repulsive. They may think of you as a nasty fool. But no one will base
respect on your ability to harm them, to inflict hurtful words. Only a
bullying idiot would even begin to believe that.

>>Say smug, nasty shit and then excuse yourself for it. As though it
>>somehow demonstrates anything but a crippled and cramped mind. As though
>>it were reasonable and useful to behave this way
>
> I reiterate.....what ever your opinions...about me......if that makes
> you happy then rejoice...
> It doesn't diminish my worth.....

My opinion will have no effect on your worth. Your behavior will. Your
nastiness will. Your desire for triumph over others will. Your pride in
what you think is your ability to hurt will.

> Besides
> I can't do nothing more to a shallow person ..I can maul him to no end
> and he bleeds more....but what can I do if he has a masochistic turn
> of mind...?
>
> I believe
> That is what happening to you...<grin>...

That's mostly because you aren't very bright nor are you very
perceptive. But that's only to be expected from a fool who claims
humility but posts these empty boasts and threats.

> If You feel offended by my remarks......then stay away from me for your
> health sake....
>
> Just remember...there is no end to the venom I can spew on you...!

<LOL> What a fearsome sort you are. That big red nose is scary. So are
the long, floppy shoes. And that huge orange wig...

It is a very telling situation when you take pride in your capacity to
"spew venom" rather than the information you carry, your skills. You
really believe you're scary. You really believe that your off-the-mark,
juvenile insults are striking the target. You really that you are a
person to fear.

Sorry. You're a blustery windbag. Toothless old lion roaring into the
wind striving to strike terror into the hearts of those around you. But
you're just another malevolent little boy sitting at your computer,
bloviating and frothing to no purpose or avail.

You're all talk. And not very well-done talk at that.

I made bread today. Half the batch had fresh garlic in it. The other
half, aged Parmesan cheese. Lovely. We'll make panini this evening.

Pastorio

Bob (this one) wrote:
> chembake wrote:

I have dealt with people worse than you are in the kitchen and
incidentally many of them are chefs....no wonder....your behavior
struck a chord
You share the same sensitivity....and shallowness...

I was wondering these guys can chop onions without tears but I realize
moat of them are onion skinned...<Grin>......

Belief or non belief on what I said does not matter....It does not
change the truth..what my background and capability is...
No worries.... Enjoy your delusion of who I am....LOL

>
> >><LOL> Not only nasty and a blowhard, but an inventor of "sayings." Bwah
> >
> > As you never travel ...you are ignorant of the adages from other
> > countries....
>
> <LOL> I've lived in six countries. I've visited a couple dozen. It looks
> like you just make things up - pull your insults out of thin air. My
> first language was Italian. Second, Sicilian. Then English. French.
> Spanish, to speak to my relatives in Central America. A good bit of
> Japanese. The odd bit of German, enough to get around the country.
>

Well you never been to Asia and that is where that saying I stated
earlier come from...

Regading languages...I have also lived in many countries can speak also
some other languages ( Arabic, German, French, Spanish, Mandarin and
Cantonese,,,some Bahasa Malaysia ), but it does not matter here ..?
..
Besides many sayings that comes from Asian countries ... are not well
known by westerners...how can they read the calligraphy...?
A
> Here, blowhard, a basic truth. For an insult to have any effect, it has
> to have at least a modicum of truth.

Well WINDBOB ....if you are hurt by my statement then there is a grain
of truth in the proverb that you refuse to accept as you never heard
it...?
But wait....if you are affected by it....there should be grain of truth
and there was no need to elaborate further....

> >>You can lead a horse to water, but you can't grow moss on a rock. Oh,
> >>look. I invented a "saying" just as meaningful.
> >
> > Indeed you invented it....it should be a rolling stone gathers no
> > moss.....
>
> How unutterably dense you are. I was mocking you by deliberately making
> a hash of a "saying."


Is that so.?...WINDBOB ...you are really fuming mad when you are
mocking<grin>>.


>
> > You should have said..also ..you can't pull a stubborn donkey to cross
> > the river.but you can drag a hog to a muddy puddle.....
>
> <LOL> No doubt translated from the original Pee Wee Hermanish. How
> simply and ridiculous. How meaningless.

Its The same with your statement.....


> > that is more appropriate to you.
> > That is why
> > You are in a soaked in a mire of your own ......may I ask did you find
> > pleasure in it like a pig?!

Childish..?

Look Lad .....
You meant you are scissors... I am rock... or paper ?<grin>
We can play that game if you want....<grin>..

> > Bob....you are creating the problem that bothers you....if you find
> > thatt my post pricks your onion skin and hurt you then that is your
> > problem....you should have not done this masochistic act.........
>
> <LOL> And here you are claiming superior understanding. And then you say
> something as basically stupid as this.

Even no matter how you interpret those statement... there is no denying
that it reminds you of your childhood....

> > Indeed its confirmed you are petty person....A lot of those people
> > avoid me lke a plague<grin>.
> > As They don't mess with me therefore I don't make a mess out of
> > them....
>
> In your dreams, illiterate one...

HA! HA! Windbob ...I think you should go back to
kindergarten,,,,My cousin is currently a teacher....I might recommend
you to her class...From what state are you..?
I can spend for your scholarship...including boarding ...? as I will
have you put in the Guinnes book of records.....for that...? for being
The oldest kindergarten student...?
Is it okay with you...?
I am certain the kids wouldn't mind having a clown with an apron and
toque....wearing clogs...?juggling peeled onions...?


>
> > then there is peaceful coexistence<grin>... and important issues are
> > discussed...instead..
>
> I thought you couldn't say anything more moronic than you already have,
> but I was wrong.
>
> Your blighted idea of "peaceful coexistence" is to be free to offer all
> your crippled, insulting vulgarity to whomever you want, whenever you
> want, and they remain silent. And that's your idiot definition of

Windbob your shallowness cannot fathom ,,,peaceful coexistence that
exist among individuals that occasionally are in conflict due to
difference in personalities,background, race and perceptions.....
In my workplace
Regardless of the difference they managed to
coexist....harmoniously....and it was proven... even if some of my
fellow workmates don't like me we managed towork together to a common
goal... that led to the the success of the company that employed
us.....
That is what I call peaceful coexistence in real sense...
People with personalities that clash can still live and work
harmoniously to a common goal...
But I doubt ...you can achieve that...you are so consumed with
hatred...?
I was worried that you are having hypertension....?///

> And there you go with your boastful "important issues" which seem to
> reside just in your ability to post splashes of your vast capacity for
> denigration and humiliation on others.

WindBob the only thing that'is humiliating is if its true....and if
what I said really hit your HARD...
THEN WHAT I SAID ABOUT YOU IS TRUE...!


> > In my workplaces .....petty people don't play with me due to their
> > hypersensitiveness to my barbs...but try to avoid it by talking what is
> > important fot the company's business. and other relevant matters....so
> > there is no disagreement...but mutual respect...
>
> So let's see. Your barbs are the basis for respect? Could you be less
> aware of the people around you? Could you have less understanding of the
> real bases of respect?

Windbob ....you still have a lot to learn...you really need to go back
to school
Regarding respect
...Indeed....unfortunately for guy of your kind ...it will be very
difficult.to understand .. that there are times that respect is earned
that way.....By recognizing that somebody does not want pettiness to
consume the precious company time on senseless discussion...
And having somebody around to tame those kind of discussion is
sometimes necessary..
Even in the court room...the judge is stern...in order to keep the
session in order...
Is there something hitleresque about that...?


You are of the Hitleresque notion that if you hit
> others hard, they will respect you. They may fear you. They may find you
> repulsive. They may think of you as a nasty fool. But no one will base
> respect on your ability to harm them, to inflict hurtful words. Only a
> bullying idiot would even begin to believe that.


Windbob....I think you really see it to the extreme....are you a
Jew...? as you seem to be reminded by the holocaust...?


> >>Say smug, nasty shit and then excuse yourself for it. As though it
> >>somehow demonstrates anything but a crippled and cramped mind. As though
> >>it were reasonable and useful to behave this way
> >
> > I reiterate.....what ever your opinions...about me......if that makes
> > you happy then rejoice...
> > It doesn't diminish my worth.....
>
> My opinion will have no effect on your worth. Your behavior will. Your
> nastiness will. Your desire for triumph over others will. Your pride in
> what you think is your ability to hurt will.

Nastiness is a relative term....my cousins children find their mom to
be nasty...but their playmates find her nice...

My niece thinks that his teacher in Science is nasty. And strict after
she was scolded....but her other classmates think the old lady is nice
and disciplined as she is helpful to students who abide by her rules
but not anybody who does not toe the line...

>

Desire for triumph is not the right word here....relentless ness in my
pursuit is the way...
I think I am succeeding...I might have raised your blood pressure to
200/90?


> > Besides
> > I can't do nothing more to a shallow person ..I can maul him to no end
> > and he bleeds more....but what can I do if he has a masochistic turn
> > of mind...?
> >
> > I believe
> > That is what happening to you...<grin>...
>
> That's mostly because you aren't very bright nor are you very
> perceptive. But that's only to be expected from a fool who claims
> humility but posts these empty boasts and threats.
>

Again your words reflect your spiteful nature....does it change
everything...?
You may lose your marbles if you insist in your way<grin>>.

Wait tell your better half to get the sphygmomanometer ....
Hating me is your futile attempt to downgrade me....
But does it affect me....nope <grin>..

> > If You feel offended by my remarks......then stay away from me for your
> > health sake....
> >
> > Just remember...there is no end to the venom I can spew on you...!

I said that as I think you are hypersensitive ....who know you have
heart problem...living in the kitchen and always under pressure...is
prone to such ailment .
I have seen in one occasions a chef just fall down from heart
attack...to add insult to injury...his hand stiffened and was grasping
the sauce pan with boiling water in it. as he fall down scalding his
face and chest...
That is why I was warning you...If you don't like being insulted stay
away...from me for your health sake...

> <LOL> What a fearsome sort you are. That big red nose is scary. So are
> the long, floppy shoes. And that huge orange wig...

LOL
Nope not exactly....I am too pretty to be a clown....People don't
find me funny anyway...
But I am certain that you have the potential....when you are angry you
become funny...LOL
No need for floppy shoes....your chef clogs will do...you can dance a
jig if you like...?


> It is a very telling situation when you take pride in your capacity to
> "spew venom" rather than the information you carry, your skills. You
> really believe you're scary. You really believe that your off-the-mark,
> juvenile insults are striking the target. You really that you are a
> person to fear.


Regarding skills and knowledge I don't need to explain about
that...and it does not matter how hard your try to deny believing those
capability ...it will not change anything...
You are still not on par along those line I am sure of that.

......
> Sorry. You're a blustery windbag. Toothless old lion roaring into the
> wind striving to strike terror into the hearts of those around you. But
> you're just another malevolent little boy sitting at your computer,
> bloviating and frothing to no purpose or avail.

No need for apology....that was what your hate filled thoughts can
think of....
You are the ones who is deeply enraged here ...not me....<grin>..

I having fun stoking your 'stove '....to raise your temperature and
blood pressure...?

Follow me...
Lets do some exercise....
Please remember the episode in Karate kid movie...?
Breathe in ....breath out....wax in ...wax out....<grin>... do that as
you clean the tiles of your kitchen...
>
> You're all talk. And not very well-done talk at that.
>

Really.. LOL !..thats what you think.....you never know me in its
entirety.....
Ha Ha......
Besides talk is cheap....and that what guy like your deserves ..
......Besides ...you don't have the means of understanding technical
terms...specially now that your feelings is consumed by hatred...

I can imagine your hands is shaking....with a meat cleaver... while
chopping meat thinking it was me....
Again....release your tension...leave the knife on the table...
Grab the sponge...face the kitchen walls
Breathe in...breath out....wipe in...wipe out...

> I made bread today. Half the batch had fresh garlic in it. The other
> half, aged Parmesan cheese. Lovely. We'll make panini this evening.
>

Is that something to be proud of ....making bread?/// I did that for
more than three decades...
Wait...
Ah..I understand.now ...a bakery apprentice is always proud of his
first bread...
Congratulation on your first bread Bob...!

Show it to the head chef <grin>>..
He might ask you to make some pizza...!

chembake wrote:

> I have

<flush>

Same old, same old...

No more information, no more wisdom, no more substance...

Pastorio

>Same old, same old...


>No more information, no more wisdom, no more substance...

If there is consistency on what I said then its the truth....not any
amount of denying can disprove it.

chembake wrote:

>>>As you never travel ...you are ignorant of the adages from other
>>>countries....
>>
>><LOL> I've lived in six countries. I've visited a couple dozen. It looks
>>like you just make things up - pull your insults out of thin air. My
>>first language was Italian. Second, Sicilian. Then English. French.
>>Spanish, to speak to my relatives in Central America. A good bit of
>>Japanese. The odd bit of German, enough to get around the country.
>>
>
> Well you never been to Asia and that is where that saying I stated
> earlier come from...

I lived in Japan and travelled in many countries in the region. Where,
exactly, did that "saying" of yours come from?

You said, "But there is a saying....its difficult to wake up a person
that is already awake but pretending to be asleep... "

Pastorio

>You said, "But there is a saying....its difficult to wake up a person
>that is already awake but pretending to be asleep... "


If you indeed have travelled in that region and you understand the
language you will see different version of such saying...but provide
the same meaning...it is a saying by the Chinese migrants from the
Indonesia and Malaysia but it was said to have originated in Southern
China......