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Baking (rec.food.baking) For bakers, would-be bakers, and fans and consumers of breads, pastries, cakes, pies, cookies, crackers, bagels, and other items commonly found in a bakery. Includes all methods of preparation, both conventional and not. |
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On 5/27/06, Barbara > wrote:
> > > I have the Professional 600 Series 6 qt. I made a "double batch" of > dough requiring 3 cups of bread flour and 3 cups whole wheat. If the double batch requires 3 cups of bread flour and 3 cups of whole wheat, that is a rather small double batch. Different recipes, and different people, set the size for a double batch at different points. Like "hot" in "hot sauce", there aren't any hard and fast rules here which is why I asked about the size of your double batch - I was concerned other people would double their batch size without doing the math. A quick look at the KA web page, http://www.kitchenaid.com/catalog/ca...categoryId=310 shows that the Pro 600 6qt mixer has a "flour power" of 14 cups. However, when using all or part whole grain flour, they suggest de-rating that to 1/2 of the full size. So, with the recipe you mentioned, the limit would be 7 cups of flour in the Pro 600 6qt model. In short, the recipe is pretty close to the edge of what the Pro 600 can handle, and would be beyond what many of their mixers can safely handle on a regular basis. The KA came with a recipe booklet and a recipe for Whole Grain Wheat Bread > calls for 5-6 cups whole wheat flour, which makes 2 loaves. The booklet > DOES say not to add more than the maximum amount of flour specified but > gives the reason as "a dry loaf will result". There are two separate issues here. Many recipes tell you to add flour and knead until the dough is silky smooth and feels like a baby's bottom. If the dough isn't dry enough, it will climb up the dough hook in a KA. You can deal with that using a chopstick to push the dough down, or by adding flour. If you add too much flour, the loaf will be dry and crumbly. In fact, you are better off, for most breads, with a much wetter dough and dealing with the dough climbing issue in ways that don't involve adding more flour. As Beatrice Ojakangas says in her "Great Whole Grain Breads" book, "dough would rather be a bit too wet than a bit too dry". The other issue is not exceeding the rated capacity of the mixer. If you get a Hobart mixer's manual, they specify the capacity of the mixer by weight, and it changes based on what you are mixing. You can beat a lot of egg whites, mix a lot of cake batter, make less wet bread dough, and much less pizza, bagel or challah dough. The thickness of the dough, often measured by it's hydration, gives you an indication of how hard the mixer will have to work to mix the dough. And, even with a commercial mixer, the limits that are well below the maximum volume of the mixer because dough is harder to mix than egg whites. KitchenAid seems to have decided that their typical customer can't cope with the density of the dough charts, so they simplify and say, "The flour power of this mixer is 14 cups". It's probably a reasonable simplification for most of their customers. Under "Bread Making Tips" it says to "NEVER use recipes calling for more > than 12 cups all-purpose flour or 8 cups whole wheat flour when making dough > with a 6-quart mixer." That's pretty much what I said. They may have changed that over the years, the current web page says 14 cups of all purpose flour for this model. The manual also warns you not to make more than two batches back to back, and to let the mixer cool for 45 minutes after the second batch. Mike |
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