Nick Cramer > wrote in
:

> I got quite a chuckle out of that. You can pick your friends, you can
> pick your nose, but you can't pick your relatives!
>
>
You can pick your location, and make sure it's far away from relatives. It
works, I've done it with great success..

Funny but sad story. When I came to the US 7 years ago I was taught that
barbecue is done with Kraft in a crock pot. I soon found out that's not the
case. I have nothing against crock pots, I use one all the time, but not
for my barbecue.


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//ceed

On 6 May 2007 13:49:51 GMT, ceed > wrote:

>Nick Cramer > wrote in
:
>
>> I got quite a chuckle out of that. You can pick your friends, you can
>> pick your nose, but you can't pick your relatives!
>>
>>
>You can pick your location, and make sure it's far away from relatives. It
>works, I've done it with great success..
>
>Funny but sad story. When I came to the US 7 years ago I was taught that
>barbecue is done with Kraft in a crock pot. I soon found out that's not the
>case. I have nothing against crock pots, I use one all the time, but not
>for my barbecue.


Yeppers!

On 6-May-2007, VegA > wrote:

> On 6 May 2007 13:49:51 GMT, ceed
> > wrote:
>
> >Nick Cramer > wrote in
> :
> >
> >> I got quite a chuckle out of that. You can pick your
> >> friends, you can
> >> pick your nose, but you can't pick your relatives!
> >>
> >>
> >You can pick your location, and make sure it's far away
> >from relatives. It
> >works, I've done it with great success..
> >
> >Funny but sad story. When I came to the US 7 years ago I
> >was taught that
> >barbecue is done with Kraft in a crock pot. I soon found
> >out that's not the
> >case. I have nothing against crock pots, I use one all
> >the time, but not
> >for my barbecue.
>
>
> Yeppers!

Well la de da. The whole group needs to know that you
agree.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

ceed > wrote:
> Nick Cramer > wrote in
>
> > I got quite a chuckle out of that. You can pick your friends, you can
> > pick your nose, but you can't pick your relatives!
> >
> You can pick your location, and make sure it's far away from relatives.
> It works, I've done it with great success..

My only relatives are my Uncle and kid brother, both of whom I dearly love
and miss. They're 3,000 miles away. ;-(
>
> Funny but sad story. When I came to the US 7 years ago I was taught that
> barbecue is done with Kraft in a crock pot. I soon found out that's not
> the case. I have nothing against crock pots, I use one all the time, but
> not for my barbecue.

Well, belated welcome to the land of the free and the home of the brave,
unless you're an illegal alien, in which case get out! ;-D

When I was still working, I usta do beans in a crock pot. Put 'em in before
I left for work, they'd be perfect when I got home. Now I do 'em on the
stove, so's I can smell and sample 'em all day. Gladja learned howta Q.
;-))

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Nick Cramer > wrote in
:

> Well, belated welcome to the land of the free and the home of the
> brave, unless you're an illegal alien, in which case get out! ;-D
>
> When I was still working, I usta do beans in a crock pot. Put 'em in
> before I left for work, they'd be perfect when I got home. Now I do
> 'em on the stove, so's I can smell and sample 'em all day. Gladja
> learned howta Q. ;-))
>
I'm a legal permanent resident. Going to get my citizenship soon, so thank
you for the belated welcome.

However, I do not understand why you can't smell and sample from a crock
pot? Does yours come with a lock? My favorite in the crock pot is corned
beef and cabbage. I sample and smell it like crazy every time I make it..



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//ceed

ceed wrote:
>
> Nick Cramer > wrote in
> :
>
> > Well, belated welcome to the land of the free and the home of the
> > brave, unless you're an illegal alien, in which case get out! ;-D
> >
> > When I was still working, I usta do beans in a crock pot. Put 'em in
> > before I left for work, they'd be perfect when I got home. Now I do
> > 'em on the stove, so's I can smell and sample 'em all day. Gladja
> > learned howta Q. ;-))
> >
> I'm a legal permanent resident. Going to get my citizenship soon, so thank
> you for the belated welcome.

Then you'll know more about the US than the bulk of the folks born here.
Congrats on studying all that useless trivia.

>
> However, I do not understand why you can't smell and sample from a crock
> pot? Does yours come with a lock? My favorite in the crock pot is corned
> beef and cabbage. I sample and smell it like crazy every time I make it..
>

Crock pots are good for a lot of things, they're even acceptable as a
holding place to keep real pulled pork BBQ warm for serving, you just
can't make it in one.

"Pete C." > wrote:
> ceed wrote:
> > Nick Cramer > wrote in
> >
> > > Well, belated welcome to the land of the free and the home of the
> > > brave, unless you're an illegal alien, in which case get out! ;-D
> > >
> > > When I was still working, I usta do beans in a crock pot. Put 'em in
> > > before I left for work, they'd be perfect when I got home. Now I do
> > > 'em on the stove, so's I can smell and sample 'em all day. Gladja
> > > learned howta Q. ;-))
> > >
> > I'm a legal permanent resident. Going to get my citizenship soon, so
> > thank you for the belated welcome.
>
> Then you'll know more about the US than the bulk of the folks born here.
> Congrats on studying all that useless trivia.

I wouldn't call it useless, Pete. When my wife and kids were studying for
their Citizenship test, thay found it fascinatingly different from Thai
history and asked me lots of questions. Fortunately, being an old fart, and
having gone to school when American History was taught all the way back to
Jamestown Colony, I was able to answer most of them.

> > However, I do not understand why you can't smell and sample from a
> > crock pot? Does yours come with a lock? My favorite in the crock pot
> > is corned beef and cabbage. I sample and smell it like crazy every time
> > I make it..
> >
>
> Crock pots are good for a lot of things, they're even acceptable as a
> holding place to keep real pulled pork BBQ warm for serving, you just
> can't make it in one.

I don't think Ceed is saying he makes Q in the crock pot (if he is, give
him time . . . he'll experience the joy of discovery), but Corned Beef &
Cabbage (with perhaps potatos parsnips, turnips, carrots, celery and
spices). Corning a brisket is easy, but takes a while.

I came across this lovely related poem:

GOOD GRIEF - NOT BEEF!

I just want to put something straight
About what should be on your plate,
If it's corned beef you're makin'
You're sadly mistaken,
That isn't what Irishmen ate.

If you ever go over the pond
You'll find it's of bacon they're fond,
All crispy and fried,
With some cabbage beside,
And a big scoop of praties beyond.

Your average Pat was a peasant
Who could not afford beef or pheasant.
On the end of his fork
Was a bit of salt pork,
As a change from potatoes 'twas pleasant.

This custom the Yanks have invented,
Is an error they've never repented,
But bacon's the stuff
That all Irishmen scoff,
With fried cabbage it is supplemented.

So please get it right this St. Paddy's.
Don't feed this old beef to your daddies.
It may be much flasher,
But a simple old rasher,
Is what you should eat with your tatties.

©Frances Shilliday 2004

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Nick Cramer wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote:
> > ceed wrote:
> > > Nick Cramer > wrote in
> > >
> > > > Well, belated welcome to the land of the free and the home of the
> > > > brave, unless you're an illegal alien, in which case get out! ;-D
> > > >
> > > > When I was still working, I usta do beans in a crock pot. Put 'em in
> > > > before I left for work, they'd be perfect when I got home. Now I do
> > > > 'em on the stove, so's I can smell and sample 'em all day. Gladja
> > > > learned howta Q. ;-))
> > > >
> > > I'm a legal permanent resident. Going to get my citizenship soon, so
> > > thank you for the belated welcome.
> >
> > Then you'll know more about the US than the bulk of the folks born here.
> > Congrats on studying all that useless trivia.
>
> I wouldn't call it useless, Pete. When my wife and kids were studying for
> their Citizenship test, thay found it fascinatingly different from Thai
> history and asked me lots of questions. Fortunately, being an old fart, and
> having gone to school when American History was taught all the way back to
> Jamestown Colony, I was able to answer most of them.

No, not all of it is useless, indeed I think we'd all be better off if
our population remembered a bit more of it.

>
> > > However, I do not understand why you can't smell and sample from a
> > > crock pot? Does yours come with a lock? My favorite in the crock pot
> > > is corned beef and cabbage. I sample and smell it like crazy every time
> > > I make it..
> > >
> >
> > Crock pots are good for a lot of things, they're even acceptable as a
> > holding place to keep real pulled pork BBQ warm for serving, you just
> > can't make it in one.
>
> I don't think Ceed is saying he makes Q in the crock pot (if he is, give
> him time . . . he'll experience the joy of discovery), but Corned Beef &
> Cabbage (with perhaps potatos parsnips, turnips, carrots, celery and
> spices). Corning a brisket is easy, but takes a while.

I know, I was just noting that a crock pot can legitimately be used in
relation to pulled pork BBQ, just not to make it.

>
> I came across this lovely related poem:
>
> GOOD GRIEF - NOT BEEF!
>
> I just want to put something straight
> About what should be on your plate,
> If it's corned beef you're makin'
> You're sadly mistaken,
> That isn't what Irishmen ate.
>
> If you ever go over the pond
> You'll find it's of bacon they're fond,
> All crispy and fried,
> With some cabbage beside,
> And a big scoop of praties beyond.
>
> Your average Pat was a peasant
> Who could not afford beef or pheasant.
> On the end of his fork
> Was a bit of salt pork,
> As a change from potatoes 'twas pleasant.
>
> This custom the Yanks have invented,
> Is an error they've never repented,
> But bacon's the stuff
> That all Irishmen scoff,
> With fried cabbage it is supplemented.
>
> So please get it right this St. Paddy's.
> Don't feed this old beef to your daddies.
> It may be much flasher,
> But a simple old rasher,
> Is what you should eat with your tatties.
>
> ©Frances Shilliday 2004


Um, ok. Guess I'll save the corned beef for Reubens...

Nick Cramer > wrote in news:20070507185307.467
:

> I don't think Ceed is saying he makes Q in the crock pot (if he is, give
> him time . . . he'll experience the joy of discovery), but Corned Beef &
> Cabbage (with perhaps potatos parsnips, turnips, carrots, celery and
> spices). Corning a brisket is easy, but takes a while.
>
>

No, I do absolutely not do Q in a crock pot. I do it in either my Brinkmann
bullet or in my recently aquired 450 lb cast iron smoker (was a nightmare
carrying it to my backyard).

Interesting seeing you say: "Corning a brisket is easy". How do I do that?
I have also been wondering why it's called "corned" beef. Do you know?

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//ceed

ceed > wrote:
> Nick Cramer > wrote in news:20070507185307.467
>
> > I don't think Ceed is saying he makes Q in the crock pot (if he is,
> > give him time . . . he'll experience the joy of discovery), but Corned
> > Beef & Cabbage (with perhaps potatos parsnips, turnips, carrots, celery
> > and spices). Corning a brisket is easy, but takes a while.
> >
> No, I do absolutely not do Q in a crock pot. I do it in either my
> Brinkmann bullet or in my recently aquired 450 lb cast iron smoker (was a
> nightmare carrying it to my backyard).
>
> Interesting seeing you say: "Corning a brisket is easy". How do I do
> that? I have also been wondering why it's called "corned" beef. Do you
> know?

It was originally dry cured in salt, the grains of which were called corns.

You can Google on corning brisket. One URL I found is:

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/lc_mea..._14009_2278552,
00.html

Hmmm. You may have to splice that or find on the second page in Google.

I would leave out the saltpeter and use 12 oz of Kosher salt and 3 pints
of water for each 10 lbs of meat, adjusting whatever other spices you want
in the brine accordingly. Simpler is better. If the meat is more than 3"
thick at the thickest part, I'd leave it in the fridge for 3 weeks,
otherwise two weeks should be fine. Just make sure the brine covers the
meat and turn it every two or three days. It's easy, just takes a while.
;-)

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ceed wrote:

> No, I do absolutely not do Q in a crock pot.

No one can. It is impossible to bbq in a crock pot.

--
"So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!"
Dave
www.davebbq.com

On 8 May 2007 08:52:08 GMT, ceed > wrote:

>Nick Cramer > wrote in news:20070507185307.467
:
>
>> I don't think Ceed is saying he makes Q in the crock pot (if he is, give
>> him time . . . he'll experience the joy of discovery), but Corned Beef &
>> Cabbage (with perhaps potatos parsnips, turnips, carrots, celery and
>> spices). Corning a brisket is easy, but takes a while.
>>
>>
>

>
>Interesting seeing you say: "Corning a brisket is easy". How do I do that?
>I have also been wondering why it's called "corned" beef. Do you know?


Go here http://www.zenreich.com/ Alan has a proven recipe/procedure
for Corned brisket that he is kind enough to share.

Harry