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My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. Thanks in advance. Smokin' Tim -- "The words of the tongue should have three gatekeepers: Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?" -Arab proverb |
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Tim wrote:
> Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better > than his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a > "sweet, ketchup based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I > usually serve. > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good > with a heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** > so that next year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. Heck Tim, to even the field completely have two seperate competitions. 1. Just the meat. 2. Sauce. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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Tim wrote:
> Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a > heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next > year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. My first inclination would be to just say "no". My second inclination would be to get a bottle of KC Masterpiece, dump it into a bowl, goose it with some Buffalo Chipotle sauce and pretend it's home-made. Dana |
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"Dana Myers" > wrote in message
> Tim wrote: > > Hello All! > > > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our > > families annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is > > much better than his, but to even the field he is insisting that we > > have a "sweet, ketchup based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar > > sauce I usually serve. Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe > > that would go good > > with a heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** > > so that next year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. > > My first inclination would be to just say "no". > > My second inclination would be to get a bottle of KC Masterpiece, > dump it into a bowl, goose it with some Buffalo Chipotle sauce > and pretend it's home-made. > > Dana You're probably right with the KC Masterpiece (shudder!), but I'd probably use Blues Hog original sauce. KC Masterpiece sure does appeal to the masses, though. BOB |
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On Jun 20, 12:19 pm, "Tim" > wrote:
> Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a > heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next > year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. > > Thanks in advance. > > Smokin' Tim > > -- > "The words of the tongue should have three gatekeepers: > Is it true? > Is it kind? > Is it necessary?" > -Arab proverb Chef Juke's Raspberry-Chipotle Barbecue Sauce NOTE: This is a slight variation on the classic Kansas City Barbecue sauce from the KC Barbecue Association, for those who like their BBQ Hot & Smoky! 6 Tbls. packed dark brown sugar 1/2 cup cider vinegar 1/4 cup molasses ¼ cup Worcestershire sauce 2 Tbls dark rum 2 Tbls yellow mustard 1 Tbls pure chili powder 2 tsp. freshly ground black pepper 2 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. ground allspice 1/4 tsp. ground cloves 1/4 cup Chipotles en Adobo 2 cups ketchup 2 cups Raspberry Preserves (I use Wall's Raspberry preserves from Costco) Kosher or sea salt Pepper In large saucepan, combine sugar, vinegar, molasses, honey, Worcestershire, rum, mustard, chili powder, pepper, garlic powder, allspice and cloves. Bring to simmer over medium heat. Cook, uncovered, until all ingredients are dissolved, stirring constantly, about 5 minutes. Stir in ketchup and bring to boil, stirring constantly. Add salt and pepper to taste. Reduce heat slightly, add raspberry jam and 1/4 cup chipotles** and gently simmer sauce, uncovered, until dark & thick, about 30 minutes, stirring often. Use right away or transfer to jars, cover, cool to room temperature and refrigerate. Sauce will keep several months. Makes 5 cups or 20 servings. **Add the chipotle peppers to taste. Since simmering will bring out the heat in the peppers start by adding ¼ cup of chipotles and cook for the 30 minutes THEN taste again and add additional peppers if you like it REALLY HOT. Two notes: First, Chefjuke didn't mention honey in his ingredients list (it's in the directions), so I just dumped in about a TBS worth. Worked fine. Second, take him seriously about the chipotles in adobo sauce. Them suckers are tasty and hot. Start out with the recommended dosage and add more after you taste it. |
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Tim wrote:
> Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a > heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next > year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. > > Thanks in advance. > > Smokin' Tim > I've never tried this on pulled pork and it's not really a ketchup based sauce, but it has some in it if that counts. I got this along time ago while in Hawaii. It took alot of begging and groveling but eventually I wore the s.o.b. down ;-) It's not cheap to make and it's definitely different but worth a try. 1 large can frozen orange juice - don't add any water 1 cup brown sugar 1/2 cup ketchup (HEINZ) 1/2 cup of mustard (regular yellow, not dry) 1/2 cup of whiskey (anything that ya got, cheap stuff works fine) 1/4 cup soy sauce (optional) 1/2 cup Worcestershire sauce (I recomment L&P) Grated onion and garlic to taste (I wouldn't advise using dried) dump everything in a blender and mix (I add a touch of coarse salt and fresh ground pepper but that's not in the original... I just can't follow a recipe) Another variation, depending on what I'm looking for is some chipotle peppers or tabasco, etc. Freezes well. -- Steve |
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![]() "Jason Tinling" > wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 20, 12:19 pm, "Tim" > wrote: > Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a > heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next > year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. > > Thanks in advance. > > Smokin' Tim > > -- > "The words of the tongue should have three gatekeepers: > Is it true? > Is it kind? > Is it necessary?" > -Arab proverb Chef Juke's Raspberry-Chipotle Barbecue Sauce NOTE: This is a slight variation on the classic Kansas City Barbecue sauce from the KC Barbecue Association, for those who like their BBQ Hot & Smoky! 6 Tbls. packed dark brown sugar 1/2 cup cider vinegar 1/4 cup molasses ¼ cup Worcestershire sauce 2 Tbls dark rum 2 Tbls yellow mustard 1 Tbls pure chili powder 2 tsp. freshly ground black pepper 2 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. ground allspice 1/4 tsp. ground cloves 1/4 cup Chipotles en Adobo 2 cups ketchup 2 cups Raspberry Preserves (I use Wall's Raspberry preserves from Costco) Kosher or sea salt Pepper In large saucepan, combine sugar, vinegar, molasses, honey, Worcestershire, rum, mustard, chili powder, pepper, garlic powder, allspice and cloves. Bring to simmer over medium heat. Cook, uncovered, until all ingredients are dissolved, stirring constantly, about 5 minutes. Stir in ketchup and bring to boil, stirring constantly. Add salt and pepper to taste. Reduce heat slightly, add raspberry jam and 1/4 cup chipotles** and gently simmer sauce, uncovered, until dark & thick, about 30 minutes, stirring often. Use right away or transfer to jars, cover, cool to room temperature and refrigerate. Sauce will keep several months. Makes 5 cups or 20 servings. **Add the chipotle peppers to taste. Since simmering will bring out the heat in the peppers start by adding ¼ cup of chipotles and cook for the 30 minutes THEN taste again and add additional peppers if you like it REALLY HOT. Two notes: First, Chefjuke didn't mention honey in his ingredients list (it's in the directions), so I just dumped in about a TBS worth. Worked fine. Second, take him seriously about the chipotles in adobo sauce. Them suckers are tasty and hot. Start out with the recommended dosage and add more after you taste it. I can certainly vouch for the above recipe. (Try to use seedless jam in it) |
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Tim wrote:
> Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a > heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next > year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. > > Thanks in advance. > > Smokin' Tim > Tim, Here's one a pitboss here in Austin gave me for a good, sweet(and slightly spicy)side sauce: DT's BBQ Sauce * 3/4 cup brown sugar * 1/2 cup ketchup * 1/3 cup molasses * 1/4 cup apple cider vinegar * 1/4 cup olive oil * 3 tablespoons prepared mustard * 3 cloves garlic * 2 teaspoons Worcestershire Sauce * 1/2 teaspoon salt * 1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper (I'd use more-fm) * 1/4 tablespoon ground black pepper * 1 tablespoon chili powder * I can of crushed pineapple about 10 oz. (I alternate-apricots/peaches/plums-whatever you got-fm) Heat the oil up with the garlic until it's soft, then add the other ingredients on low heat until mixed. Makes enough. Don't be ashamed to use sauce if you like it. |
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![]() "Tim" > wrote in message ... > Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > You said "no", of course. He wants you to cover up the good flavor of your pork with a sickly sweet sauce giving him the advantage. True test is the meat alone. Don't give in and lower your standards. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ We're cooking meat here, not making candy. |
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"Tim" > wrote:
> Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with > a heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that > next year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. Tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce NOW! Go with yer vinegar sauce. It's probably part of why your pulled pork is better. ;-) However, you can't go wrong with Chef Juke's Raspberry-Chipotle BBQ Sauce NOTE: This is a slight variation on the classic Kansas City Barbecue sauce from the KC Barbecue Association, for those who like their BBQ Hot & Smoky! 6 Tbls. packed dark brown sugar 1/2 cup cider vinegar 1/4 cup molasses ¼ cup Worcestershire sauce 2 Tbls dark rum 2 Tbls yellow mustard 1 Tbls pure chili powder 2 tsp. freshly ground black pepper 2 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. ground allspice 1/4 tsp. ground cloves 1/4 cup Chipotles en Adobo 2 cups ketchup 2 cups Raspberry Preserves (I use Wall's Raspberry preserves from Costco) Kosher or sea salt Pepper In large saucepan, combine sugar, vinegar, molasses, Worcestershire, rum, mustard, chili powder, pepper, garlic powder, allspice and cloves. Bring to simmer over medium heat. Cook, uncovered, until all ingredients are dissolved, stirring constantly, about 5 minutes. Stir in ketchup and bring to boil, stirring constantly. Add salt and pepper to taste. Reduce heat slightly, add raspberry jam and 1/4 cup chipotles** and gently simmer sauce, uncovered, until dark & thick, about 30 minutes, stirring often. Use right away or transfer to jars, cover, cool to room temperature and refrigerate. Sauce will keep several months. Makes 5 cups or 20 servings. **Add the chipotle peppers to taste. Since simmering will bring out the heat in the peppers start by adding ¼ cup of chipotles and cook for the 30 minutes THEN taste again and add additional peppers if you like it REALLY HOT. -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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Jason Tinling > wrote:
> On Jun 20, 12:19 pm, "Tim" > wrote: > > [ . . . ] > Chef Juke's Raspberry-Chipotle Barbecue Sauce My post of the same is now redundant. ;-( -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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Nick Cramer > wrote:
> Jason Tinling > wrote: > > On Jun 20, 12:19 pm, "Tim" > wrote: > > > [ . . . ] > > Chef Juke's Raspberry-Chipotle Barbecue Sauce It's interesting to note that of the six or seven posts, three of them were of Chef Juke's recipe. Haven't seen him around here lately. Hope yer OK, Jukester. -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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![]() "Denny Wheeler" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:01:43 -0600, "Shawn" > > wrote: > >>Second, >>take him seriously about the chipotles in adobo sauce. Them suckers >>are >>tasty and hot. Start out with the recommended dosage and add more >>after you >>taste it. > > (above this is from Jason T.) > >>I can certainly vouch for the above recipe. (Try to use seedless jam in >>it) > > Hey Shawn, would you please set your OE to mark quoted material? It'd > make your posts much easier to follow. Thanks! > > -denny- > -- > > The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. > The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority. Sorry 'bout that. I just noticed it. If I don't CR after the page down, it gets included with the OP. Will try better in future. Shawn (Who was just as confused as you when I saw it.) :-( |
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![]() "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message ... > Nick Cramer > wrote: >> Jason Tinling > wrote: >> > On Jun 20, 12:19 pm, "Tim" > wrote: >> > > [ . . . ] >> > Chef Juke's Raspberry-Chipotle Barbecue Sauce > > It's interesting to note that of the six or seven posts, three of them > were > of Chef Juke's recipe. > > Haven't seen him around here lately. Hope yer OK, Jukester. > That's because that sauce is bitchin' (If you HAVE to have sauce at all) |
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Thanks all for the responses. I like the idea of refusing to participate
with the BBQ sauce portion of the contest, and saving some self-respect, but if I can beat him at his own game he just might leave it alone for a few years. I think I'll try some the Chef Juke's recipe ahead of time and see how I like it. At the very least, I'm going with a sauce that I like. Again, Thanks all! -Tim "Tim" > wrote in message ... > Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a > heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next > year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. > > Thanks in advance. > > Smokin' Tim > > -- > "The words of the tongue should have three gatekeepers: > Is it true? > Is it kind? > Is it necessary?" > -Arab proverb > > |
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On Jun 20, 9:44 pm, Nick Cramer > wrote:
> > My post of the same is now redundant. ;-( > > -- > Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! > > Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! > ~Semper Fi~ Yeah, but we still love ya, Nick ;-) |
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Tim wrote:
> "sweet, ketchup based BBQ sauce" Buy the one-gallon jug of Maul's Original Recipe barbecue sauce. It doesn't get much more sickening-sweet and tomatoey than that. I live in St. Louis where it's made, and I don't even care for it much. Except maybe on chicken, rarely. -- EZ Traeger BBQ075 "Texas" CharGriller Smokin Pro Great Outdoors Smoky Mountain Wide Body CharmGlow 3-burner All-Stainless Gas Grill Weber Kettle One-Touch Silver 22-1/2" Weber Kettle Smoky Joe Silver 14-1/2" |
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Denny Wheeler wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:01:43 -0600, "Shawn" > > wrote: > > > Second, > > take him seriously about the chipotles in adobo sauce. Them suckers > > are > > tasty and hot. Start out with the recommended dosage and add more > > after you > > taste it. > > (above this is from Jason T.) > > > I can certainly vouch for the above recipe. (Try to use seedless > > jam in it) > > Hey Shawn, would you please set your OE to mark quoted material? It'd > make your posts much easier to follow. Thanks! I'm not sure there's anything he can do with the particular version he has. The problem is that Google Groups, when doing replies, sets the header line: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some versions of OE don't handle quoted-printable well. Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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Tim wrote:
> Hello All! > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better > than his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a > "sweet, ketchup based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I > usually serve. Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would > go good > with a heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** > so that next year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. Ketchup -based sauce on pork (or anything for that matter)??? Blecht! -frohe |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:47:56 -0600, "frohe" >
wrote: > >Ketchup -based sauce on pork (or anything for that matter)??? Blecht! > It almost makes one feel sorry for the millions of people who lack your refined sensibilities and rarified good taste. PS: There's a reason why ice-cream plants make both vanilla AND chocolate. |
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Jason Tinling > wrote:
> On Jun 20, 9:44 pm, Nick Cramer > wrote: > > > > My post of the same is now redundant. ;-( > > > Yeah, but we still love ya, Nick ;-) Aw, shucks. <shuffle, shuffle> -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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EZ wrote:
> Tim wrote: > > > "sweet, ketchup based BBQ sauce" > > Buy the one-gallon jug of Maul's Original Recipe barbecue sauce. It > doesn't get much more sickening-sweet and tomatoey than that. I live > in St. Louis where it's made, and I don't even care for it much. > Except maybe on chicken, rarely. "Don't baste your barbecue, Maull it!" Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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![]() "Tim" > wrote in message ... > Hello All! > > My brother insists on having a pulled pork competition at our families > annual 4th of July bash. Everyone knows that my pork is much better than > his, but to even the field he is insisting that we have a "sweet, ketchup > based BBQ sauce" in addition to the vinegar sauce I usually serve. > > Will someone share a BBQ (sweet, ketchup) recipe that would go good with a > heavily rubbed pulled pork? I'd really like to kick his a** so that next > year I can tell him what to do with his BBQ sauce. > > Thanks in advance. > > Smokin' Tim > > -- > "The words of the tongue should have three gatekeepers: > Is it true? > Is it kind? > Is it necessary?" > -Arab proverb > > Peach based BBQ Sauce. I don't measure, so you might have to play a bit with it yourself, but I'll try to give approximations. Juice from one large can of peaches. 1.5 cups ketchup ..5 cup mustard several squirts worchestireshire pinch of clove tsp black pepper tsp salt Then I add some of the rub mixture I used for the meat, as well as the amount of hot pepper flakes I want to get the heat I want as well. Cook until boiling, then simmer for about 15min. Like I said, I don't measure, I just put everything in and taste as I go... sauce is never exactly the same two times in a row, but always close. *g* |
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