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I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. What happened?

Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
years.

What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
cheese over the years?

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On Mar 19, 3:33*am, "Per K. Off" > wrote:
> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. *What happened?
>
> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
> years.
>
> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
> cheese over the years?


X-posting wannabe troll.

FAIL.
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"Per K. Off" wrote:

> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. What happened?
>
> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
> years.
>
> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
> cheese over the years?


While I have not had much experience with American cheese, we had some
good friends living up here for a few years who frequently commented how
much better Canadians cheese was than American. After they moved back to
the US they made several trips back up here and always stocked up on
cheese to take back.

I have noticed a decline in the quality of the mass produced cheddar
here, but over the years I have been buying better cheeses. Maybe the
cheap stuff just tastes worse in comparison.


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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> "Per K. Off" wrote:
>
>> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
>> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. What happened?
>>
>> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
>> years.
>>
>> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
>> cheese over the years?

>
> While I have not had much experience with American cheese, we had some
> good friends living up here for a few years who frequently commented how
> much better Canadians cheese was than American. After they moved back to
> the US they made several trips back up here and always stocked up on
> cheese to take back.
>
> I have noticed a decline in the quality of the mass produced cheddar
> here, but over the years I have been buying better cheeses. Maybe the
> cheap stuff just tastes worse in comparison.


The original poster is a troll, but Mr. Olin's reply was priceless!
>



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On Mar 19, 9:53 am, "BD" > wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> ...
>
>
>
> > "Per K. Off" wrote:

>
> >> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
> >> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. What happened?

>
> >> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
> >> years.

>
> >> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
> >> cheese over the years?

>
> > While I have not had much experience with American cheese, we had some
> > good friends living up here for a few years who frequently commented how
> > much better Canadians cheese was than American. After they moved back to
> > the US they made several trips back up here and always stocked up on
> > cheese to take back.

>
> > I have noticed a decline in the quality of the mass produced cheddar
> > here, but over the years I have been buying better cheeses. Maybe the
> > cheap stuff just tastes worse in comparison.

>
> The original poster is a troll,


You're right. I didn't catch it first time around, as I was reading
the op's comments in someone else's reply. Pretty obvious on a second
reading.


> but Mr. Olin's reply was priceless!


I think it was from the poster previous to Olin, but whoever it was,
it was indeed funny.


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On Mar 19, 11:53 am, "BD" > wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > "Per K. Off" wrote:

>
> >> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
> >> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. What happened?

>
> >> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
> >> years.

>
> >> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
> >> cheese over the years?

>
> > While I have not had much experience with American cheese, we had some
> > good friends living up here for a few years who frequently commented how
> > much better Canadians cheese was than American. After they moved back to
> > the US they made several trips back up here and always stocked up on
> > cheese to take back.

>
> > I have noticed a decline in the quality of the mass produced cheddar
> > here, but over the years I have been buying better cheeses. Maybe the
> > cheap stuff just tastes worse in comparison.

>
> The original poster is a troll, but Mr. Olin's reply was priceless!
>


Having a question about cheese isn't being a troll, calling a guy
asking a question a troll is being a troll.

Please if you're going to only make replies that insult me don't reply
at all. I want this to be a nice thread with nice people. Not name
callers.

Thank you.


>


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"Per K. Off" CROSS POSTER wrote:
> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. �What happened?
>
> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
> years.
>
> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
> cheese over the years?


The only reason is that you're not buying American cheese. You're
buying packages of those individually wrapped faux cheese slices (some
are real cheese but extremely poor quality) , they all taste awful.
If you buy your American cheese at the deli, fresh sliced from a big
block, then you will recieve the same product that has essentially
gone unchanged for a hundred years. Many of the major dairies, like
Land O Lakes, produce quality American cheese. And don't worry about
the yellow color, it's natural anetto, the same colorant that's been
used in the world's finest Cheddar for over a hundred years, and most
butter. Dying cheese yellow began a long time ago in the UK by the
cheddar makers. People have become so used to the coloring of food
that it has become traditional, people do eat primarily with their
eyes. The only reason dairy products are dyed is so the makers have a
way to distinguish their product... each uses a particular formula
that's different for each manufacturer, like a fingerprint. The
different brands of cheeses and butters are a very slightly different
shade of yellow... nowadays a spectrometer reading is used to ID
against batch numbers within each brand.,, even white American cheese
is not snow white, it contains some amount of dye.

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On 2008-03-19, Per K. Off > wrote:

> Please if you're going to only make replies that insult me don't reply
> at all. I want this to be a nice thread with nice people. Not name
> callers.


Anyone who cross-posts from a pro-wrestling newsgroup to a cooking newsgroup
is a troll, despite your protests to the contrary.

nb
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notbob wrote:

> On 2008-03-19, Per K. Off > wrote:
>
> > Please if you're going to only make replies that insult me don't reply
> > at all. I want this to be a nice thread with nice people. Not name
> > callers.

>
> Anyone who cross-posts from a pro-wrestling newsgroup to a cooking newsgroup
> is a troll, despite your protests to the contrary.


Silly me for replying. The gmail address should have been a good clue. Every
piece of spam that has made it through my filters in the last few days has been
from a gmial address. That's it..... gmail is getting plonked..

Apologies to sf and a few other of the good posters here, but I won't be seeing
your stuff unless someone else quotes it.


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On Mar 19, 10:44 am, "Per K. Off" >
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> Having a question about cheese isn't being a troll, calling a guy
> asking a question a troll is being a troll.


Pretty much anything cross-posted to these particular groups, is a
troll.

Perhaps you can think of a legitimate question that is of interest to
pro-wrestling fans, vegetarian dieters, and the impeach Bush
movement. Then you can develop that into an argument that you are not
a troll.



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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:33:00 -0700 (PDT), "Per K. Off" > wrote:

>I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
>flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. What happened?
>
>Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
>years.
>
>What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
>cheese over the years?


If it says "cheese food" or "cheese product" instead of just
cheese, then it's not really cheese. See if you can find something
that just says cheese, or real cheese. Compare the ingredients
with the cheese foods. If it looks like there is a significant difference,
then it might be worth a try.
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On Mar 19, 9:53*am, "BD" > wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Per K. Off" wrote:

>
> >> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
> >> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. *What happened?

>
> >> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
> >> years.

>
> >> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
> >> cheese over the years?

>
> > While I have not had much experience with American cheese, we had some
> > good friends living up here for a few years who frequently commented how
> > much better Canadians cheese was than American. After they moved back to
> > the US they made several trips back up here and always stocked up on
> > cheese to take back.

>
> > I have noticed a decline in the quality of the mass produced cheddar
> > here, but over the years I have been buying better cheeses. Maybe the
> > cheap stuff just tastes worse in comparison.

>
> The original poster is a troll, but Mr. Olin's reply was priceless!
>


Wasn't it mine?

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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:13:22 -0700 (PDT)

On Mar 19, 3:33=A0am, "Per K. Off" >
wrote:
> I remember a slice of American cheese used to taste really good and
> flavorful and now it's like they are all bland. =A0What happened?
>
> Seriously, I know I'm not the only one that has noticed this over the
> years.
>
> What do you think the reason is for the taste going down in American
> cheese over the years?
>


The production quality of whey protein concentrate, water, aluminium
phosphate, sodium phosphate, alginate, sodium citrate, apocarotenal,
annatto and benzoate isn't as good as it used to be. Hard to find the
all-natural just-like-grandma-used-to-make whey protein concentrate in
our age. Plus the price of aluminium has sky-rocketed. Instead, many
American cheesemakers now use cheaper and inferior substitutes like
real dairy cream, rennet and pure sea salt. And nothing else! Some
even try to save money further by refusing to pasteurise and
homogenise; and by adding truffles, porcini, dark ale, herbs, and
spices to act as cheap fillers. That's how desperate American cheese
has become!

With the quality of American processed cheese going down, some
consumers had to resort to buying cheap substitutes like 1-day-old
bufalo mozarella (they don't even take time to matute it!), 7-year-old
(!) parmeggiano (these brain-dead slobs forgot to throw it out of the
fridge after the first 3 months), still-liquid teleme, vaucheron and
camembert, stinking-like-dirty-sox alsace muenster and taleggio, etc!

The stores are so confused now that they shrug their shoulders, give
up, throw hundreds of cheeses on the counter (some cheeses don't even
have the Kraft seal-of-quality on them!) and expect the consumers to
wade through this mess.
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