Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.

*******s.

Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)

-John O

"John O" > wrote in message
...
> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>
> *******s.
>
> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>
> -John O
>

Heh, free.binaries.food seems to work. For now.

"John O" > wrote in message
...
> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>
> *******s.
>
> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>
> -John O

Seems as though the ATT companies have ditched the alt.binaries groups.
Verizon dumped all of the alt groups.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "John O" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
>> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>>
>> *******s.
>>
>> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>>
>> -John O
>
> Seems as though the ATT companies have ditched the alt.binaries groups.
> Verizon dumped all of the alt groups.
>
>


ATT

Asses
Trollops
Troglodytes

yep, food, gardening, and pond binaries are G-O-N-E but there are
several S & M groups left.

I don't usually curse on Usenet but
_*%_*$_@_&TY(*&GDB)(SD_%#_)*@#$#_@($&_#@*

Lawyers are dicks!

jOhN

On Jul 14, 8:28*pm, jOhN > wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "John O" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
> >> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>
> >> *******s.
>
> >> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>
> >> -John O
>
> > Seems as though the ATT companies have ditched the alt.binaries groups.
> > Verizon dumped all of the alt groups.
>
> ATT
>
> Asses
> Trollops
> Troglodytes
>
> yep, food, gardening, and pond binaries are G-O-N-E but there are
> several S & M groups left.
>
> I don't usually curse on Usenet but
> _*%_*$_@_&TY(*&GDB)(SD_%#_)*@#$#_@($&_#@*
>
> Lawyers are dicks!
>
Really don't think it was the laywers, the suits are just hiding
behind that to save money, (and potential hassle), it's a win win for
them, they're ****ing off only a small minority of their users.

Coming up next: Metered usage.

They're already testing it.

"John O" > wrote in message
...
> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>
> *******s.
>
> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>
> -John O

Same with news.prodigy.net


--
Old Scoundrel

(AKA Dimitri)

It cost ATT a bundle to debate this issue and finally take action to filter
out the alt groups, including many that many of us considered a value add to
the ATT IP service bundle. Pressure did not come from those that enjoyed the
hundreds of free communications from friends around the world, it came from
a a well organized group of narrow minded biggots and fear mongers. Some of
these are on the ATT board and some are within company management.

Hopefully, with a massive change in the Washington policy makers, a new
vision of freedom will spring from these recessionary times of repression.
At least we have had a taste of freedom.

V-

"Tutall" > wrote in message
...
On Jul 14, 8:28 pm, jOhN > wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "John O" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is
> >> gone.
> >> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>
> >> *******s.
>
> >> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>
> >> -John O
>
> > Seems as though the ATT companies have ditched the alt.binaries groups.
> > Verizon dumped all of the alt groups.
>
> ATT
>
> Asses
> Trollops
> Troglodytes
>
> yep, food, gardening, and pond binaries are G-O-N-E but there are
> several S & M groups left.
>
> I don't usually curse on Usenet but
> _*%_*$_@_&TY(*&GDB)(SD_%#_)*@#$#_@($&_#@*
>
> Lawyers are dicks!
>
Really don't think it was the laywers, the suits are just hiding
behind that to save money, (and potential hassle), it's a win win for
them, they're ****ing off only a small minority of their users.

Coming up next: Metered usage.

They're already testing it.

John O wrote:
> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>
> *******s.
>
> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>
> -John O
>
>
News.sf.sbcglobal.net has killed abf. How should we feel about
censorship on our internet? I'm ****ed!

Dave

jOhN > wrote:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> "John O" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Crap....went to look at pix of food this morning, and the group is gone.
>>> Everything that says 'binaries' is gone.
>>>
>>> *******s.
>>>
>>> Well, maybe I need to get back to work anyway. ;-)
>>>
>>> -John O
>>
>> Seems as though the ATT companies have ditched the alt.binaries groups.
>> Verizon dumped all of the alt groups.
>>
>
> ATT
>
> Asses
> Trollops
> Troglodytes
>
> yep, food, gardening, and pond binaries are G-O-N-E but there are
> several S & M groups left.
>
> I don't usually curse on Usenet but
> _*%_*$_@_&TY(*&GDB)(SD_%#_)*@#$#_@($&_#@*
>
> Lawyers are dicks!

I just found this out last night around 10:00pm when their whole
news server went down. It came back up around 4:00am and no
alt.binaries.food.

Those ****ers.

-sw

Tutall > wrote:

> Really don't think it was the laywers, the suits are just hiding
> behind that to save money, (and potential hassle), it's a win win for
> them, they're ****ing off only a small minority of their users.

In AT&T's case, it's wasn't a money-saving issue. They have exactly
one person (Tom I.) maintaining the whole news server farm for the
whole country. He's still employed and doing what he's always done.
His job just got easier, but he doesn't get paid any less.

Roadrunner, OTOH, was a big money-saver for them. They shut off all
of Usenet and don't have to pay to outsource it.

In a way, I can see how hosting kiddie porn on your company servers
might be frowned upon. But that's no reason to shut off all of
alt.binaries.*. It's the suits that just don't get it.

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Tutall > wrote:
>
>> Really don't think it was the laywers, the suits are just hiding
>> behind that to save money, (and potential hassle), it's a win win for
>> them, they're ****ing off only a small minority of their users.
>
> In AT&T's case, it's wasn't a money-saving issue. They have exactly
> one person (Tom I.) maintaining the whole news server farm for the
> whole country. He's still employed and doing what he's always done.
> His job just got easier, but he doesn't get paid any less.
>
> Roadrunner, OTOH, was a big money-saver for them. They shut off all
> of Usenet and don't have to pay to outsource it.
>
> In a way, I can see how hosting kiddie porn on your company servers
> might be frowned upon. But that's no reason to shut off all of
> alt.binaries.*. It's the suits that just don't get it.
>
> -sw

NWO - You must be protected from yourself.

--
TFM®
Everyone else's never have defeated my logic!

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:03:59 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>Roadrunner, OTOH, was a big money-saver for them. They shut off all
>of Usenet and don't have to pay to outsource it.

When Roadrunner dropped Usenet, I went looking for an alternative. On
a different group, several people recommended Astraweb and Terranews
as Usenet providers. After not much research, I went with Astraweb.
They have a pay as you go alternative and I figured that for 10 bucks,
I could probably download text files for a century or so. If you do
look at a lot of binary files, another choice might be better.

Hope this helps.



Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:12:19 -0500, VideoVic46 wrote:

> It cost ATT a bundle to debate this issue and finally take action to filter
> out the alt groups, including many that many of us considered a value add to
> the ATT IP service bundle. Pressure did not come from those that enjoyed the
> hundreds of free communications from friends around the world, it came from
> a a well organized group of narrow minded biggots and fear mongers. Some of
> these are on the ATT board and some are within company management.
>
> Hopefully, with a massive change in the Washington policy makers, a new
> vision of freedom will spring from these recessionary times of repression.

Don't hold your breath.

> At least we have had a taste of freedom.

FWIW, Time Warner dropped its Usenet access as well. I'm currently
subscribed to individual.net for 15 euros per year.

d

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Tutall > wrote:
>
> > Really don't think it was the laywers, the suits are just hiding
> > behind that to save money, (and potential hassle), it's a win win for
> > them, they're ****ing off only a small minority of their users.
>
> In AT&T's case, it's wasn't a money-saving issue. They have exactly
> one person (Tom I.) maintaining the whole news server farm for the
> whole country. He's still employed and doing what he's always done.
> His job just got easier, but he doesn't get paid any less.
>
> Roadrunner, OTOH, was a big money-saver for them. They shut off all
> of Usenet and don't have to pay to outsource it.
>
> In a way, I can see how hosting kiddie porn on your company servers
> might be frowned upon. But that's no reason to shut off all of
> alt.binaries.*. It's the suits that just don't get it.
>
I get my usenet via att's uverse (news.houston.sbcglobal.net) and it still
has the alt.binaries.food -- not too many others (there are a few that
misspelled "binaries" that are stll there)

suzilem > wrote:

> I get my usenet via att's uverse (news.houston.sbcglobal.net) and it still
> has the alt.binaries.food -- not too many others (there are a few that
> misspelled "binaries" that are stll there)

I use news.dallas and it's definitely gone. Houston *has* to be
gone as well. You sure you're just not seeing a phantom group?

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> suzilem > wrote:
>
> > I get my usenet via att's uverse (news.houston.sbcglobal.net) and it
still
> > has the alt.binaries.food -- not too many others (there are a few that
> > misspelled "binaries" that are stll there)
>
> I use news.dallas and it's definitely gone. Houston *has* to be
> gone as well. You sure you're just not seeing a phantom group?
>
Messages were there last night at around 6:45pm. This morning, all there is
is the name of the group, with no messages when I opened the folder.
Phooey. I was hoping that it might have missed the executioner's ax because
almost all the binaries were totally gone, but there were a few survivors,
including "food".

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> > I don't usually curse on Usenet but
> > _*%_*$_@_&TY(*&GDB)(SD_%#_)*@#$#_@($&_#@*
> >
> > Lawyers are dicks!

Then don't vote for Obama.
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

Denny Wheeler wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:13:29 -0700, "Dave T." >
> wrote:
>
>> News.sf.sbcglobal.net has killed abf. How should we feel about
>> censorship on our internet? I'm ****ed!
>
> While I agree with your being ****ed, and that the people at those
> various providers who are dropping anything from binary groups to all
> of usenet are lying hypocrites, I don't agree that it's censorship.
>
> Assholeship--that, it is.
>

Censorship or Assholeship, same diff. A nameless, faceless, self
appointed member of the "Shadow Government" has decided what we can and
cannot see on the internet, an entity that has always enjoyed the
epitome of freedom. Here is an excerpt from the reply I received from AT&T;

"Although the Newsgroup that you're trying to access might be dealing
with an entirely different topic of discussion, discontinuing our
support on Alt.binary newsgroups is a legal action we have to take. I'm
sorry to inform you that we could not disclose any more information
about this at this time. Once again, we sincerely apologize for any
inconvenience."

Why can't they disclose anything to us? What the F*** is so secret?

>discontinuing our support on Alt.binary newsgroups is a legal action we
>have to take.

Bull.