It's getting towards that time of year when a good stew or a chili
works in the evening.. I got a couple 12-14 lb briskets in freezer
and since I'm an empty nested single guy I usually have a lb or two left
over after a weekend. Any one have a recipe for a good chili using
leftover brisket?

Charlyhorse > wrote:

> It's getting towards that time of year when a good stew or a chili
> works in the evening.. I got a couple 12-14 lb briskets in freezer
> and since I'm an empty nested single guy I usually have a lb or two left
> over after a weekend. Any one have a recipe for a good chili using
> leftover brisket?

Is this smoked brisket? I tried making chili out of one once and
the smoke flavor just leeched out the meat and made it taste like I
used liquid sm*oke in the chili.

Make home fries and smoked beef hash out of it.

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Charlyhorse > wrote:
>
>> It's getting towards that time of year when a good stew or a chili
>> works in the evening.. I got a couple 12-14 lb briskets in freezer
>> and since I'm an empty nested single guy I usually have a lb or two left
>> over after a weekend. Any one have a recipe for a good chili using
>> leftover brisket?
>
> Is this smoked brisket? I tried making chili out of one once and
> the smoke flavor just leeched out the meat and made it taste like I
> used liquid sm*oke in the chili.


Mebbe it's cause you used mesquite?

You smoke a brisket up proper, Tennessee style with some white ash and some
grapevine with a splash of dogwood for good measure and you don' get no
nasty taste from your chili.


Heh,
TFM®

Just find a good chili recipe and use that. If you have a nice mild
taste like TFM describes, it will be great.

But don't forget to leave a little brisket back for brisket tacos with
pico de gallo and a slice or two of avocado on them. Rough chop the
point a bit, heat it in a heavy skillet, and put the heated brisket in
some flour tortillas and you are on your way.

Robert

On 1-Oct-2008, Sqwertz > wrote:

> Charlyhorse > wrote:
>
> > It's getting towards that time of year when a good stew or a chili
> > works in the evening.. I got a couple 12-14 lb briskets in freezer
> > and since I'm an empty nested single guy I usually have a lb or two left
> > over after a weekend. Any one have a recipe for a good chili using
> > leftover brisket?
>
> Is this smoked brisket? I tried making chili out of one once and
> the smoke flavor just leeched out the meat and made it taste like I
> used liquid sm*oke in the chili.
>
> Make home fries and smoked beef hash out of it.
>
> -sw

It just happens that I made a concoction today from smoked rib tips
and leftover rib roast. It has roasted poblanos, fresh serranos, plum
tomatoes, onion, cumin, S&P and some seasoned salt. What Sqwertz
says about the smoke is true. It kind of becomes the prominent flavor
of the whole dish, but I happen to like it now and then. I also have a lot
of those pesky smoked rib tips backed up in the freezer. You can change
the character with various herbs and spices as you wish. I'm currently
on a middle eastern kick. You don't have to call it chili if you don't want
to. It'll still use up the brisket.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 1-Oct-2008, =?iso-8859-1?B?VEZNrg==?= > wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Charlyhorse > wrote:
> >
> >> It's getting towards that time of year when a good stew or a chili
> >> works in the evening.. I got a couple 12-14 lb briskets in freezer
> >> and since I'm an empty nested single guy I usually have a lb or two left
> >> over after a weekend. Any one have a recipe for a good chili using
> >> leftover brisket?
> >
> > Is this smoked brisket? I tried making chili out of one once and
> > the smoke flavor just leeched out the meat and made it taste like I
> > used liquid sm*oke in the chili.
>
>
> Mebbe it's cause you used mesquite?
>
> You smoke a brisket up proper, Tennessee style with some white ash and some
> grapevine with a splash of dogwood for good measure and you don' get no
> nasty taste from your chili.
>
>
> Heh,
> TFM®

Ditto what TFM® said. Although I have no white ash or even any grapevine,
I get no nasty taste in my chili. The smoke does come through. I had a big plate
of it for supper just tonight and it was good. I'm using original rancher charcoal
for fuel and some unidentified hardwood (real hard) for smoke. This chili was
made with roasted poblanos and smoked rib tips. Some serranos gave it a little
zing.
--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 2-Oct-2008, " > wrote:

> Just find a good chili recipe and use that. If you have a nice mild
> taste like TFM describes, it will be great.
>
> But don't forget to leave a little brisket back for brisket tacos with
> pico de gallo and a slice or two of avocado on them. Rough chop the
> point a bit, heat it in a heavy skillet, and put the heated brisket in
> some flour tortillas and you are on your way.
>
> Robert

Musgovian brisket makes great hash too. Grind it with onions, garlic and
boiled potatoes for a real treat. Fry it and serve it in patty form with an
egg on top. Don't forget the hot buttered toast.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On Oct 2, 5:42*pm, "Brick" > wrote:

> You can change
> the character with various herbs and spices as you wish. I'm currently
> on a middle eastern kick. You don't have to call it chili if you don't want
> to. It'll still use up the brisket.

I'm right there with you. If I want to call it smokey stew, then
that's it. If someone wants to get ****y, I'll call it Southwest
Style Carnitas. Talk about covering a lot of ground... that could be
anything!

But, as a friend of mine says, I don't care what you call it when you
make it, just call me when you do!

Robert

"Brick" > wrote in message
m...
>
> On 1-Oct-2008, =?iso-8859-1?B?VEZNrg==?= >
> wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Charlyhorse > wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's getting towards that time of year when a good stew or a chili
>> >> works in the evening.. I got a couple 12-14 lb briskets in
>> >> freezer
>> >> and since I'm an empty nested single guy I usually have a lb or two
>> >> left
>> >> over after a weekend. Any one have a recipe for a good chili using
>> >> leftover brisket?
>> >
>> > Is this smoked brisket? I tried making chili out of one once and
>> > the smoke flavor just leeched out the meat and made it taste like I
>> > used liquid sm*oke in the chili.
>>
>>
>> Mebbe it's cause you used mesquite?
>>
>> You smoke a brisket up proper, Tennessee style with some white ash and
>> some
>> grapevine with a splash of dogwood for good measure and you don' get no
>> nasty taste from your chili.
>>
>>
>> Heh,
>> TFM®
>
> Ditto what TFM® said. Although I have no white ash or even any grapevine,
> I get no nasty taste in my chili. The smoke does come through. I had a big
> plate
> of it for supper just tonight and it was good. I'm using original rancher
> charcoal
> for fuel and some unidentified hardwood (real hard) for smoke.

Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree a
week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new chain - I
might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!


TFM®

TFM® wrote:

> Mebbe it's cause you used mesquite?

Hey Alan - Lick my plate you dog dick!

('Chop Top' in Texas Chainsaw Massacre II)

-sw

TFM® wrote:

> Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree
> a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
> I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
> Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new chain -
> I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!
>

I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon
bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons
last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.

In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.

Like citrus woods, I'm not sure how Hedge would work for smoking, but a
fire made of the dried wood makes decent coals for grilling.


--
Nonnymus-

Some folk say that Southern good old boys
aren’t too smart. To that, let me remind you
that anyone who builds a city 10’ BELOW sea level
and fills it with Democrats can’t be too dumb.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> TFM® wrote:
>
>> Mebbe it's cause you used mesquite?
>
> Hey Alan - Lick my plate you dog dick!
>
> ('Chop Top' in Texas Chainsaw Massacre II)


I'm very aware of the line. That was the funniest TCM ever. I wasn't aware
of his name however.

Bo 'Chop Top' Sawyer a.k.a. Bill Moseley. He did an outstanding job in
House of 1000 Corpses, and The Devil's Rejects. The latter being quite a
fine film in the same vein as the TCM flicks.

TFM®

"Nonnymus" > wrote in message
...
> TFM® wrote:
>
>> Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree a
>> week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
>> I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
>> Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new chain -
>> I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!
>>
>
> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results would
> be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and must
> admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon bush is
> about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons last
> year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>
> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches would
> make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the correct
> name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're describing. If
> so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's virtually impossible to
> staple fence wire to one unless you drive the staple into a crack or
> split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use I'm aware of, but hogs
> sure love them.


I don't recall seeing the hedge apple down here. We had a bunch in Tn. The
fruit looks like a brain.
What I got was a piece of orange tree stump.

TFM®

Nonnymus wrote:

> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees.
> They were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off
> branches would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I
> believe the correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what
> you're describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact,
> it's virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you
> drive the staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no
> commercial use I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.

As I recall from visits to my grandfather's farm, they were excellent
for throwing at other things. Even better than windfall apples.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Default User wrote:
> Nonnymus wrote:
>
>> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees.
>> They were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off
>> branches would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I
>> believe the correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what
>> you're describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact,
>> it's virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you
>> drive the staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no
>> commercial use I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>
> As I recall from visits to my grandfather's farm, they were excellent
> for throwing at other things. Even better than windfall apples.
>
>
>
>
> Brian
>

One word: Firecrackers

We'd poke a hole in one, insert a Black Cat (or better), light it and
toss.

--
Nonnymus-

Some folk say that Southern good old boys
aren’t too smart. To that, let me remind you
that anyone who builds a city 10’ BELOW sea level
and fills it with Democrats can’t be too dumb.

TFM® wrote:
>
>
> "Nonnymus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> TFM® wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange
>>> tree a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
>>> I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
>>> Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new
>>> chain - I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some
>>> hard wood!
>>>
>>
>> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
>> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
>> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer
>> Lemon bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very
>> large lemons last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any
>> other bush I've encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a
>> pencil-sized branch with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>>
>> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees.
>> They were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off
>> branches would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I
>> believe the correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what
>> you're describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
>> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
>> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
>> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>
>
> I don't recall seeing the hedge apple down here. We had a bunch in Tn.
> The fruit looks like a brain.
> What I got was a piece of orange tree stump.
>
> TFM®


I believe they are called bois 'd arc down here. Often pronounced
bo-dark, the scientific name is Maclura pomifera.

http://lancaster.unl.edu/hort/Articl...dgeapple.shtml

I have seen fence posts that were a documented 100 years old, as sound
as the day they went in the ground.

A trick in this part of Texas 150 years ago was to cut off a grove of
them at about 18 inches, and use them as piers to build a house on.
Still the only houses in these parts to never have foundation problems.

"Shawn" > wrote in message
ster.com...
> TFM® wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nonnymus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> TFM® wrote:
>>>
>>>> Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree
>>>> a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
>>>> I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
>>>> Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new
>>>> chain - I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some
>>>> hard wood!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
>>> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
>>> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon
>>> bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons
>>> last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
>>> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
>>> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>>>
>>> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
>>> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
>>> would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
>>> correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
>>> describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
>>> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
>>> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
>>> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>>
>>
>> I don't recall seeing the hedge apple down here. We had a bunch in Tn.
>> The fruit looks like a brain.
>> What I got was a piece of orange tree stump.
>>
>> TFM®
>
>
> I believe they are called bois 'd arc down here. Often pronounced
> bo-dark, the scientific name is Maclura pomifera.
>
> http://lancaster.unl.edu/hort/Articl...dgeapple.shtml
>
> I have seen fence posts that were a documented 100 years old, as sound as
> the day they went in the ground.
>
> A trick in this part of Texas 150 years ago was to cut off a grove of them
> at about 18 inches, and use them as piers to build a house on. Still the
> only houses in these parts to never have foundation problems.

I will take a digital picture of said orange limb and Tiny - pic it.

In the meantime, let's not fight about what it is or isn't.

TFM® - It's wood, it's good.

On 3-Oct-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:

> TFM® wrote:
>
> > Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree
> > a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
> > I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
> > Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new chain -
> > I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!
> >
>
> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon
> bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons
> last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>
> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
> would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
> correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
> describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>
> Like citrus woods, I'm not sure how Hedge would work for smoking, but a
> fire made of the dried wood makes decent coals for grilling.
>
>
> --
> Nonnymus-

I've smoked with a fair amount of orange wood here. It makes a nice sweet
mild smoke that's especially good for pork. I'm out of it at the moment, but
there's plenty of orange groves around here. There's got to be some loose
orange wood someplace.
--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

On 3-Oct-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:

> TFM® wrote:
>
> > Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree
> > a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
> > I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
> > Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new chain -
> > I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!
> >
>
> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon
> bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons
> last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>
> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
> would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
> correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
> describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>
> Like citrus woods, I'm not sure how Hedge would work for smoking, but a
> fire made of the dried wood makes decent coals for grilling.
>
>
> --
> Nonnymus-

About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and find
a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one into the ditch with
your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a true masochist and really enjoy
pain. Believe me, it ain't like kicking an orange.
--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

Brick wrote:


> About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and
> find a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one
> into the ditch with your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a
> true masochist and really enjoy pain. Believe me, it ain't like
> kicking an orange.

Yeah, they are dense and very hard. That's why mentioned earlier about
them beening good for throwing at other things. Maybe a bit too much
for throwing at little brothers, as leaving a mark is a bad idea.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Brick" > wrote in message
m...
>
> On 3-Oct-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
>
>> TFM® wrote:
>>
>> > Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree
>> > a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
>> > I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
>> > Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new
>> > chain -
>> > I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!
>> >
>>
>> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
>> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
>> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon
>> bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons
>> last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
>> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
>> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>>
>> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
>> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
>> would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
>> correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
>> describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
>> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
>> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
>> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>>
>> Like citrus woods, I'm not sure how Hedge would work for smoking, but a
>> fire made of the dried wood makes decent coals for grilling.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nonnymus-
>
> About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and find
> a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one into the
> ditch with
> your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a true masochist and really
> enjoy
> pain. Believe me, it ain't like kicking an orange.


Everything's harder at speed. Don't ask me how I know this.

OK, you already asked...
I was cruising up the interstate from Nashville to the woods in the step van
with lots of state flowers planted alongside the road. (orange hazard
cones).

In Tennessee in a step van in summertime, you roll with the doors open all
the time.

My riding buddy says, "Get close to those cones, I want to kick one."

I told him he really didn't want to, he just thought he did, but he'd have
no part of it.

"Alright", I said. I dropped it back to 60 and eased on over as he stuck
his foot out the door...

I think it's safe to say he'll never do that again.


TFM®

On 3-Oct-2008, "Default User" > wrote:

> Brick wrote:
>
>
> > About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and
> > find a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one
> > into the ditch with your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a
> > true masochist and really enjoy pain. Believe me, it ain't like
> > kicking an orange.
>
> Yeah, they are dense and very hard. That's why mentioned earlier about
> them beening good for throwing at other things. Maybe a bit too much
> for throwing at little brothers, as leaving a mark is a bad idea.
>
> Brian

Neat freudian pun there Brian, "beening good for throwing . . . at little brothers".
I got an extra chuckle from that.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> Brick wrote:
>
>
>> About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and
>> find a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one
>> into the ditch with your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a
>> true masochist and really enjoy pain. Believe me, it ain't like
>> kicking an orange.
>
> Yeah, they are dense and very hard. That's why mentioned earlier about
> them beening good for throwing at other things. Maybe a bit too much
> for throwing at little brothers, as leaving a mark is a bad idea.
>


All these hedge apples aside, when I grew up in Utah, we'd pluck green
apples, take a bite and hum them at our buddies.
Why take a bite? Cause it makes them sting like a mofo when you get hit.

We're all born evil. Some of us get over it.

TFM®

On 3-Oct-2008, =?iso-8859-1?B?VEZNrg==?= > wrote:

> "Brick" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > On 3-Oct-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
> >
> >> TFM® wrote:
> >>
> >> > Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree
> >> > a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
> >> > I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
> >> > Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new
> >> > chain -
> >> > I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!
> >> >
> >>
> >> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
> >> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
> >> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon
> >> bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons
> >> last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
> >> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
> >> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
> >>
> >> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
> >> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
> >> would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
> >> correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
> >> describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
> >> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
> >> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
> >> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
> >>
> >> Like citrus woods, I'm not sure how Hedge would work for smoking, but a
> >> fire made of the dried wood makes decent coals for grilling.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nonnymus-
> >
> > About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and find
> > a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one into the
> > ditch with
> > your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a true masochist and really
> > enjoy
> > pain. Believe me, it ain't like kicking an orange.
>
>
> Everything's harder at speed. Don't ask me how I know this.
>
> OK, you already asked...
> I was cruising up the interstate from Nashville to the woods in the step van
> with lots of state flowers planted alongside the road. (orange hazard
> cones).
>
> In Tennessee in a step van in summertime, you roll with the doors open all
> the time.
>
> My riding buddy says, "Get close to those cones, I want to kick one."
>
> I told him he really didn't want to, he just thought he did, but he'd have
> no part of it.
>
> "Alright", I said. I dropped it back to 60 and eased on over as he stuck
> his foot out the door...
>
> I think it's safe to say he'll never do that again.
>
>
> TFM®

At 60 mph, I wouldn't be surprised if it completely destroyed his leg. I
was only doing about 35 and was lucky to get away with only a couple
of broken toes. I'm sure my engineer boots might have helped some. I
never rode half naked liike I see most around here.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

"TFM®" > wrote in message
m...
>>
> I don't recall seeing the hedge apple down here.
IIRC, they don't grow much further south than Jaxonville. Maybe a tree or
two north of Ocala, but that would be rare.

> We had a bunch in Tn. The fruit looks like a brain.

That's them. A very hard brain.

> What I got was a piece of orange tree stump.

If it was as big as you said, and even partly seasoned, you'll never cut it,
but it'll burn great, give a mild and slightly sweet smoke flavor. If you
don't want it, I'll take it.
'-)
>
> TFM®
BOB

"Brick" > wrote in message
m...
>
> On 3-Oct-2008, =?iso-8859-1?B?VEZNrg==?= >
> wrote:
>
>> "Brick" > wrote in message
>> m...
>> >
>> > On 3-Oct-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> TFM® wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange
>> >> > tree
>> >> > a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
>> >> > I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
>> >> > Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new
>> >> > chain -
>> >> > I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard
>> >> > wood!
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
>> >> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
>> >> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer
>> >> Lemon
>> >> bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large
>> >> lemons
>> >> last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush
>> >> I've
>> >> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
>> >> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>> >>
>> >> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees.
>> >> They
>> >> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
>> >> would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
>> >> correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
>> >> describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
>> >> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
>> >> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
>> >> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>> >>
>> >> Like citrus woods, I'm not sure how Hedge would work for smoking, but
>> >> a
>> >> fire made of the dried wood makes decent coals for grilling.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Nonnymus-
>> >
>> > About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and
>> > find
>> > a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one into the
>> > ditch with
>> > your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a true masochist and
>> > really
>> > enjoy
>> > pain. Believe me, it ain't like kicking an orange.
>>
>>
>> Everything's harder at speed. Don't ask me how I know this.
>>
>> OK, you already asked...
>> I was cruising up the interstate from Nashville to the woods in the step
>> van
>> with lots of state flowers planted alongside the road. (orange hazard
>> cones).
>>
>> In Tennessee in a step van in summertime, you roll with the doors open
>> all
>> the time.
>>
>> My riding buddy says, "Get close to those cones, I want to kick one."
>>
>> I told him he really didn't want to, he just thought he did, but he'd
>> have
>> no part of it.
>>
>> "Alright", I said. I dropped it back to 60 and eased on over as he stuck
>> his foot out the door...
>>
>> I think it's safe to say he'll never do that again.
>>
>>
>> TFM®
>
> At 60 mph, I wouldn't be surprised if it completely destroyed his leg. I
> was only doing about 35 and was lucky to get away with only a couple
> of broken toes. I'm sure my engineer boots might have helped some. I
> never rode half naked liike I see most around here.

We were young, dumb, and full of come.

I was driving a mobile home around at a little over a buck a gallon.

I know better than to hit shit now.

TFM® - Not much smarter, but a lot older.

Brick wrote:

>
> On 3-Oct-2008, "Default User" > wrote:

> > Yeah, they are dense and very hard. That's why mentioned earlier
> > about them beening good for throwing at other things. Maybe a bit
> > too much for throwing at little brothers, as leaving a mark is a
> > bad idea.

> Neat freudian pun there Brian, "beening good for throwing . . . at
> little brothers". I got an extra chuckle from that.

For some reason, I had a hell of time writing that message. You should
have seen the typos I cleaned up. And I hadn't even STARTED drinking.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Brick wrote:
> On 3-Oct-2008, Nonnymus > wrote:
>
>> TFM® wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of hard hardwood, I got ahold of a big chunk of an orange tree
>>> a week or so ago. It was a 6" limb about 8" long.
>>> I started with my hatchet. What a joke that was.
>>> Then I fired up the chainsaw - hot-rod chainsaw with a brand new chain -
>>> I might as well have been cutting stone. Damn, that's some hard wood!
>>>
>> I've never smoked with citrus wood, so I cannot say what the results
>> would be like. However, I have two citrus bushes in the back yard and
>> must admit I sure admire the strength of the branches. One Meyer Lemon
>> bush is about 5' in diameter and yielded just over 120 very large lemons
>> last year. The weight was enough to have flattened any other bush I've
>> encountered, but the Meyer Lemon bush might have a pencil-sized branch
>> with 3-4 lemons on it, 2' away from a bigger branch.
>>
>> In MO, we had a lot of what was called Hedge or Hedge Apple trees. They
>> were a popular fence row in and of themselves, and cut off branches
>> would make great fence posts for in between the trees. I believe the
>> correct name for them is Osage Orange- could that be what you're
>> describing. If so, the wood is incredibly hard. In fact, it's
>> virtually impossible to staple fence wire to one unless you drive the
>> staple into a crack or split. The Hedge Apples have no commercial use
>> I'm aware of, but hogs sure love them.
>>
>> Like citrus woods, I'm not sure how Hedge would work for smoking, but a
>> fire made of the dried wood makes decent coals for grilling.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nonnymus-
>
> About them hedge apples. If you happen to be riding a motorcycle and find
> a bunch of them lying in the road, don't plan on kicking one into the ditch with
> your foot. It ain't a good idea unless you're a true masochist and really enjoy
> pain. Believe me, it ain't like kicking an orange.


Sort of like the time we were riding in up-state New York. There was a
'dead' groundhog in the middle of the lane. I moved over right so I
wouldn't run over it. I was the third bike in line. Apparently Mr
Ground Hog was not dead - just sleeping! The first two bikes woke him
up, and as he headed for the ditch, he hit the top of my boot (I ride
with my toes pointed down). That summbitch must have had one heck of a
headache since the folks behind me said he spun several times before he
made it off the road. I know I had a bruise on my in-step, and it was
very, very sore.

And people ask why I were full riding equipment.

MargW

On Oct 1, 5:45*pm, Charlyhorse > wrote:
> *It's *getting *towards that time of year when a good stew or a chili *
> works *in the *evening.. I got a couple *12-14 lb *briskets *in *freezer
> and since I'm an empty nested single guy I usually have a lb or two left
> over *after a weekend. Any one have a recipe for a good chili using
> leftover brisket? *

Assorted chiles (pasilla, poblano, serrano, jalapeno), seeded and
chopped
Large yellow onion
Dried chile (New Mexico, California)
Cumin
Garlic - clove and granulated
Liquid (water, beef broth, beer)
Smoked brisket/bark/burnt ends - rough chopped

If you must -
1 can peeled tomatoes

Never -
Beans of any kind

Chop chiles and throw in heated pan with some olive oil. Cook until
beginning to soften. Add chopped onions and garlic cloves. Cook on
med-low temp until onions get near see-through.

Add dry spices and cook for an additional couple of minutes. Add
cooked ingredients and enough liquid to a blender (or use an
immersion)
to whizz into something resembling moderately chunky salsa. If using
tomatoes, crush by hand (over pan) and add in with liquid. Simmer a
couple minutes, then add chile mixture to pan. Taste and season as
needed.

Add liquid and simmmer for an hour or so. Add meat and more liquid,
if
needed. Simmer another hour or two. Re-season at end, if needed.

Enjoy with a slathered up square(or 2) of Yankee Cornbread, and a bit
of grated sharp cheddar on top

On 8-Oct-2008, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:

> Brick wrote:
>
> >
> > Ditto what TFM® said. Although I have no white ash or even any
> > grapevine,
> > I get no nasty taste in my chili. The smoke does come through. I had
> > a big plate of it for supper just tonight and it was good. I'm using
> > original rancher charcoal for fuel and some unidentified hardwood
> > (real hard) for smoke. This chili was
> > made with roasted poblanos and smoked rib tips. Some serranos gave it
> > a little zing.
>
> That sounds tasty! Any beans included?
>
> MartyB

Not this time, but they're not ruled out. Actually, I'm more of a beans with
chili fan rather then a chili with beans fan. I'm kind of partial to chili beans,
which would be chili powder in beans and little or no meat at all. If there
is meat in them, it would likely be a few smoked rib tips or perhaps a pork
hock. I just finished up a dish I made with smoked pulled pork loaded with
smoked red bell peppers, onion, leeks and some spices. Before we managed
to finish it, my neighbor brought over a bowl of unsmoked pulled pork and
I just combined the two and it worked fine. There was plenty of vegetables
and sauce to carry the extra meat.

For my taste only, I would have added some ground chili, but Nathalie can't
handle much of it. I make do with red pepper flakes at the table or chopped'
fresh serranos. Oh yeh. Fresh serranos hold up to freezer pretty well. With
my vac machine, I can take out enough for one meal and seal the same bag
right back up again without thawing the contents.

--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)