Hi there,

After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
grill. We had one plumbed in at the old house and now I want that ease of
living again. I have a cheapo brinkman now and want something better. My
old natural gas grill was a JennAire from lowes. Any reccommendation out
there? Good or bad. And Yes I know this is a BBQ group. I have three
smokers, a BGE, wood fired brick pizza oven.

--
Master Chef Richard Campbell
100% Delightfully Evil for Your Protection

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long
and I assume they deserve it. --Dogbert

You could ask here http://www.grillforum.com/que/queboard/ It is a forum
for people who actually use gas grills.

Or, you could just ask "Ginsey" since she seems to control every other
aspect of your pathetic life.

(a "master chef" who posts regularly, complaining about how he was treated
in "Denny's" types of restaurants) LOLOLOLOLOLOL



"Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
newsp.uizug9hifo134t@chef-pc...
> Hi there,
>
> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
> grill. We had one plumbed in at the old house and now I want that ease of
> living again. I have a cheapo brinkman now and want something better. My
> old natural gas grill was a JennAire from lowes. Any reccommendation out
> there? Good or bad. And Yes I know this is a BBQ group. I have three
> smokers, a BGE, wood fired brick pizza oven.
>
> --
> Master Chef Richard Campbell
> 100% Delightfully Evil for Your Protection
>
> I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long
> and I assume they deserve it. --Dogbert

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:44:40 -0500, Brandon Irons > wrote:

> You could ask here http://www.grillforum.com/que/queboard/ It is a
> forum
> for people who actually use gas grills.



Thanks for the link.
--
Master Chef Richard Campbell
100% Delightfully Evil for Your Protection

I believe in Karma.
That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they
deserve it. --Dogbert

On Oct 14, 7:13*am, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
> Brandon Irons wrote:
> > You could ask herehttp://www.grillforum.com/que/queboard/* It is a
> > forum for people who actually use gas grills.
>
> > Or, you could just ask "Ginsey" since she seems to control every other
> > aspect of your pathetic life.
>
> > (a "master chef" who posts regularly, complaining about how he was
> > treated in "Denny's" types of restaurants) *LOLOLOLOLOLOL
>
> As opposed to a nitwit who never posts here, except to insult someone? Go
> lay down somewhere.
>
> MBKC

Looks like Rich has a stalker.

Hey Rich, don't be such a stranger.

Master Chef Richard Campbell wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
> grill. We had one plumbed in at the old house and now I want that ease of
> living again. I have a cheapo brinkman now and want something better. My
> old natural gas grill was a JennAire from lowes. Any reccommendation out
> there? Good or bad. And Yes I know this is a BBQ group. I have three
> smokers, a BGE, wood fired brick pizza oven.

Most of us just keep two LP tanks, so there is always a full tank in
reserve. If you prefer to help support what's left of the economy
however, try to buy something US made if such a thing exists.

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:24:40 -0500, Pete C. > wrote:

>
> Most of us just keep two LP tanks, so there is always a full tank in
> reserve. If you prefer to help support what's left of the economy
> however, try to buy something US made if such a thing exists.


I am looking at a Weber Summit S-420. My local Ace has one left and I have
a day to think about it. They are offering me about $500 off or about a
1/3 discount.


--
Master Chef Richard Campbell
100% Delightfully Evil for Your Protection

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long
and I assume they deserve it. --Dogbert

Master Chef Richard Campbell wrote:
>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:24:40 -0500, Pete C. > wrote:
>
> >
> > Most of us just keep two LP tanks, so there is always a full tank in
> > reserve. If you prefer to help support what's left of the economy
> > however, try to buy something US made if such a thing exists.
>
> I am looking at a Weber Summit S-420. My local Ace has one left and I have
> a day to think about it. They are offering me about $500 off or about a
> 1/3 discount.

Looks like a reasonable unit and a reasonable price.

"Brandon Irons" > wrote in message
...
> You could ask here http://www.grillforum.com/que/queboard/ It is a forum
> for people who actually use gas grills.

Not only did MCRC adequately recognize that this was somewhat OT for the
hard-line charter of this group, but I'd be willing to bet that a large
portion of the afb community do in fact use a gasser from time to time which
further validates the original Q.

>
> Or, you could just ask "Ginsey" since she seems to control every other
> aspect of your pathetic life.
>
> (a "master chef" who posts regularly, complaining about how he was treated
> in "Denny's" types of restaurants) LOLOLOLOLOLOL

BI, have some unresolved issues do you? Sounds like the world might have
been a better place had your dad been a "master baiter" rather than a
"fornicator"

>
>
>
> "Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
> newsp.uizug9hifo134t@chef-pc...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
>> grill. We had one plumbed in at the old house and now I want that ease of
>> living again. I have a cheapo brinkman now and want something better. My
>> old natural gas grill was a JennAire from lowes. Any reccommendation out
>> there? Good or bad. And Yes I know this is a BBQ group. I have three
>> smokers, a BGE, wood fired brick pizza oven.
>>
>> --
>> Master Chef Richard Campbell
>> 100% Delightfully Evil for Your Protection
>>
>> I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long
>> and I assume they deserve it. --Dogbert
>

Back to the point, IMHO, you can't go wrong with a Weber. I've had a 3
burner Genesis for over 10 years now (average use is roughly 3-4 times a
week minimum year round) with nary a problem. The only thing I've had to
replace in it's tenure is the igniter (3 times) and the "flavorizer bars" (6
months ago). I used to wear out a $100 charbroil or like unit every year
before the Weber. Mine was a staggering $499 way back when but has paid for
itself many times over and is still going strong.
With the right adapters (venturi, etc.) you can convert from propane to NG
or reverse.

KW

>>
>> "Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
>> newsp.uizug9hifo134t@chef-pc...
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
>>> grill. We had one plumbed in at the old house and now I want that ease of
>>> living again. I have a cheapo brinkman now and want something better. My
>>> old natural gas grill was a JennAire from lowes. Any reccommendation out
>>> there? Good or bad. And Yes I know this is a BBQ group. I have three
>>> smokers, a BGE, wood fired brick pizza oven.

We have several different outdoor cookers here, and one of them is
natural gas. We got the cabinet model 3-burner + side burner at Sam's
club and it meets all my grilling needs very well. It utilizes spark
ignition for all burners, a wood smoking tray with separate heating
burner, cabinet doors below along with two drawers, cast iron burners,
about 3/8" SS bar grates, ceramic flame tamers (they work), rotisserie
with separate IR burner, double layer hood for cooking in cold weather
and decent valves. I think if you'd look at one closely, you'd see
many, many of the components you find in a "branded" grill in the other
stores, including Sears. We paid <$1000 for it, and there are smaller
models at Sam's with the same features.

We cook outdoors almost every evening, since it's hot here normally and
thus it'd be dumb to be cooking inside while running the A/C at max to
make up for the heat. <grin>

I also suggest that you take a look at any grills offering at least one
grate area heated by IR panels. They're great for char-rare steaks and
for crisping/coloring up chicken out of the smoker.

Also, I honestly feel that there's no perfect way to cook anything, and
no perfect piece of universal equipment. We routinely use an IR grill,
gas grill, Bradley smoker, microwave 5-burner indoor cooktop and double
electric oven here at the Nonnyhouse, and each has its strengths and
weaknesses. Grilling is just as much of a desirable artform as smoking,
and the choice of heat, wood smoke and time/temp is a very subjective
thing.

--
Nonnymus-

We have reached a time in our nations history
where the grasshopper is slowly consuming
the ant. Whatever happened that made thrift, hard
work and family the target of liberal rage?

"Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
newsp.ui0wnzpbfo134t@chef-pc...
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:24:40 -0500, Pete C. > wrote:
>
>>
>> Most of us just keep two LP tanks, so there is always a full tank in
>> reserve. If you prefer to help support what's left of the economy
>> however, try to buy something US made if such a thing exists.
>
>
> I am looking at a Weber Summit S-420. My local Ace has one left and I have
> a day to think about it. They are offering me about $500 off or about a
> 1/3 discount.
>
>
> --
> Master Chef Richard Campbell
> 100% Delightfully Evil for Your Protection
>
> I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long
> and I assume they deserve it. --Dogbert
>
I bought my nat gas Weber Genesis Silver from a local Ace. At the time they
had it as cheap as anything I could find on the internet and since it was a
display model it came pre-assembled. They even delivered it for no cost.

"Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
newsp.uizug9hifo134t@chef-pc...
> Hi there,
>
> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
> grill.

If you don't have enough sense to keep a spare tank, you should not be using
the title "Master Chef" Maybe change it to "Master Baiter"

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:32:47 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>
> "Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
> newsp.uizug9hifo134t@chef-pc...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
>> grill.
>
> If you don't have enough sense to keep a spare tank, you should not be
> using
> the title "Master Chef" Maybe change it to "Master Baiter"
>
>

Hey Ed,

I do have a spare tank but my Father in Law borrowed it and returned it
empty.

BTW Pull the stick out your ass. Or push it up farther and maybe you tight
ass will squeeze out a diamond for you.

--
Master Chef Richard Campbell
100% Delightfully Evil for Your Protection

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long
and I assume they deserve it. --Dogbert

"Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
> Hey Ed,
>
> I do have a spare tank but my Father in Law borrowed it and returned it
> empty.

Then fill it.

>
> BTW Pull the stick out your ass. Or push it up farther and maybe you tight
> ass will squeeze out a diamond for you.
>

I'm working on a 2 carat. Should be ready in time for Christmas.

> "Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in message
> newsp.uizug9hifo134t@chef-pc...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural gas
>> grill.

1. Go to the store.
2. Buy one.

It's simple.

"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote in message
...
> SteveB wrote:
>>> "Master Chef Richard Campbell" > wrote in
>>> message newsp.uizug9hifo134t@chef-pc...
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> After running out of proPAIN! this evening, I want another natural
>>>> gas grill.
>>
>> 1. Go to the store.
>> 2. Buy one.
>>
>> It's simple.
>
> Was there something about his post that said, in some secret code, that
> those who felt particularly combative and/or self righteous were
> especially
> encouraged to reply with anything except real discussion?? I can't figure
> out why this thread is such a compelling turd magnet. Its as if one guy
> ran
> out of propane at the same time others ran out of thorazine.

Seems some people just can't help themselves.

> And once again, as others have, I attempt to redirect to the actual
> thread:
>
> I once had a built in NG grill that came with a house I bought. It only
> lasted a couple years since it was already on its last legs when I got it,
> but it sure beat hell out of jacking with tanks of a more volatile fuel. I
> prefer wood fuel but an outdoor NG grill with lava rock and a smoke box
> works great for steaks and chicken. Personally I have never felt the need
> to
> bother with propane.

After the flexible hose on our propane grill ruptured and the tank proceeded
to burn off the back of our house, because it couldn't be shut down, we
switched to natural gas with several in-line shutoff valves.

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
e.
>
> Could an appliance installer convert a propane cooker to NG?
>

Yes.

Now to complicate that simple answer, it would depend on whether the
person could locate an appropriate orifice. With NG having fewer BTU's
than LP, the fuel/air ratio would also be off. Since I had moved and
wanted to convert LP to NG, life was pretty simple- I drilled out the
orifice, using a table I got from the gas company. It isn't
"scientific," but if you use the ratio of BTU for the two gasses as a
guide, then simply apply that ratio to the cross sectional area of the
orifice for each. To determine the initial opening diameter, just probe
with the shank of bits until one goes in. The fuel/air is done using
color and if soot appears on pans, then you need more air.

It's so much more simple to just call the gas company and have somebody
come out and do it for you. . . and probably a lot safer.

BTW, I've also gone the other way- to a smaller orifice- and did that by
peening the old one closed and redrilling.


--
Nonnymus-

We have reached a time in our nations history
where the grasshopper is slowly consuming
the ant. Whatever happened that made thrift, hard
work and family the target of liberal rage?