>It did go up to a little over 300° for a bit, but seems to be hovering
>between 250° and 285° I just checked it and added some water and a
>little bit of charcoal, so it will have to come up to temp again.
>
>I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more charcoal
>while I was adding the water because it would be one less opportunity to
>open it and mess with the temperature.

In my WSM it seems that adding charcoal also brings the temp down,
pretty hard sometimes.

It's like the heat from the burning coals goes to lighting the new
coals instead of up to the grill.

-Zz

>
> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more charcoal
> while I was adding the water because it would be one less opportunity to
> open it and mess with the temperature.
>
> I'm watching the remote <g>
>

Janet, serious question.

Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?

Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time
of day.

Craig

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:35:47 -0700, Denny Wheeler
> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:51:07 -0400, TFM®
> wrote:
>
>>> My experience--limited compared to most here--is 5-7 hours for a butt
>>> at around 235-250. (based on my highly-likely-to-be-incorrect
>>> built-in thermometer. Maybe this is the year I put one in the side of
>>> the cover.
>>
>>
>>You don't need a thermometer for pork. You need a thermometer for fish.
>
>But I would really like to know the actual temperature at the grate
>level.

Then I think you should put on a thermometer so you know it (and I'll
remind you).

Desideria

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:22:06 GMT, Craig Watts
> wrote:

>>
>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more charcoal
>> while I was adding the water because it would be one less opportunity to
>> open it and mess with the temperature.
>>
>> I'm watching the remote <g>
>>
>
>Janet, serious question.
>
>Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?
>
>Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time
>of day.
>
>Craig

I find it necessary while grilling, too.

Desideria

Craig Watts wrote:
>>
>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more charcoal
>> while I was adding the water because it would be one less opportunity
>> to open it and mess with the temperature.
>>
>> I'm watching the remote <g>
>>
>
> Janet, serious question.
>
> Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?
>
> Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time of day.

LOL! No beer. I only need beer when I'm house-painting. Can't seem to
use a roller or a brush without a "painting facilitator"

I did make some of my killer margaritas before dinner.

--
Janet Wilder
way-the-heck-south Texas
spelling doesn't count
but cooking does

On 21-Mar-2009, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:

> In . com,
> > typed:
> > On 20-Mar-2009, Duwop > wrote:
> >
> >> Xref: news.usenetmonster.com alt.food.barbecue:5141451
> >>
> >> On Mar 20, 3:04 pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> >>> Brick wrote:
> >>
> >>> Neither of us cares much for cooked meat that's been frozen. I've
> >>> tried it before and we weren't happy with it.
> >>
> >> I hear ya, stews and butts seem to be the exception to that.
> >
> > I sure wouldn't want to argue about it, but I'm not going to turn
> > down a plate of well prepped ribs just because they couldn't
> > win at the American Royal. We had ribs just today in fact.
> > It was a montague (sp) from frig leftovers.
>
> (sp) lol... I sometimes keep a Frenchman in the freezer too! They get
> kinda mealy though....
>
> > There was some
> > scalloped potatoes with ham from a Betty Crocker box, some
> > scratch made beef storanoff and four or five smoked ribs. Might
> > have been a helping of greenbeans too.
>
> Scratch made stroganoff... your own recipe? Care to share? The only
> recipe I've ever really liked calls for beef tenderloin tips pounded and
> cut in
> strips. Those aren't usually in my fridge. The ones made with hamburger
> especially don't do anything for me.
>

Well, you asked; My stoganoff was made from leftover delmonico steak,
sliced thin and combined with freshly cooked egg noodles, sour cream and
some seasoned salt. I might have sauteed a little onion and garlic with the
meat, but I can't remember for sure.

> >
> > For dinner I did roasted chicken thighs with a roasted
> > vegetable medley. The veggies were scallion, yellow squash,
> > fennel, cubanella pepper, brussels sprouts, mushrooms,
> > lots of olive oil and some cajun spice. I covered the veggies
> > with foil in a throwaway aluminum pan and gave them 30 mins
> > at 450 deg. Not bad, but the brussels sprouts were a bit over
> > done.
> >
> > And oh yeh, chile and ranch beans are among those stew
> > type exceptions that just seem to keep getting better.
>
> Okra gumbo too, probably better the day after than when it's fresh!
>
> Are you saying chile and ranch beans as a dish or separate items? Ranch
> beans sounds interesting... as does anything with the word ranch except
> dressing.
>

Chile is chile and ranch beans are something else. My chile varies from
batch to batch, but is generally made with diced beef, onions, fresh
peppers, garlic, diced tomatoes (sometimes fresh if available), ground
New Mexican Red/Ancho/Chipotle/Serrano chili depending on how
I feel that day. I never, ever use commercial generic chile powder.

Ranch beans are beans (usually pinto), onion, garlic, probably some chopped
fresh
pepper of some kind and a little token meat. Ground New Mexican red
is my currently favorite chili powder. These days I usually find
some leftover meat and chop it finely. I can't remember the last time I
actually used ground beef for anything. I have used it though, just not
often enough to be remarkable.

> I've been having some health problems and my doc is being a real killjoy
> about my diet. Besides having to eat less beef and pork and trimming away
> as much of the delicious fat as possible, and even worse, cut down my
> portions.
> (I suppose I could fire the doc instead of changing my diet... it's not
> out of the question!) I seem to be having some luck with beans. I've
> always
> liked them, but who knew black beans were so good for you!
>
> Maybe I should start another thread to hear from Q people who are in the
> same predicament. It's something the doc says I can resolve if I follow
> instructions and lose 20-30 lbs, so I have a tendency not to fire him...
> not
> yet, anyway.
>
> MartyB in KC

I'm not much for cooking to a recipe Marty. I do research a lot of recipes
for ideas when I get a hankering for something I'm not real familiar with.
I keep several kinds of beans on hand at all times along with egg noodles,
ramen noodles, rice noodles and a few shapes of pasta. I try to keep
yellow onions, potatoes, celery, cabbage and carrots on hand as well.

Tonight we had some smoked brisket I found at the bottom of the freezer
along with another vegetable medley made up of fennel, celery, onion,
diakon and yellow squash. I flavored that with some delmonico steak*
sauteed with some musgovian button mushrooms. Judicious use of EVOO
and butter helps some also.

* Delmonico = Well marbelled NY Strip in this case.)
--
Brick(Enjoying Marty's posts as usual)

Denny Wheeler wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:21:47 -0500, Janet Wilder
> > wrote:
>
>> Craig Watts wrote:
>>>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more charcoal
>>>> while I was adding the water because it would be one less opportunity
>>>> to open it and mess with the temperature.
>>>>
>>>> I'm watching the remote <g>
>>>>
>>> Janet, serious question.
>>>
>>> Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?
>>>
>>> Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time of day.
>> LOL! No beer. I only need beer when I'm house-painting. Can't seem to
>> use a roller or a brush without a "painting facilitator"
>>
>> I did make some of my killer margaritas before dinner.
>
> Hmmm. No beer while the Q is cookin'...but 'killer margaritas' with
> and maybe after eating the Q. Sounds like a fair swap.
>
Don't question it Denny. It's a chick thing.

--
Dave T.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:49 -0700, "Dave T." >
wrote:

>Denny Wheeler wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:21:47 -0500, Janet Wilder
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Craig Watts wrote:
>>>>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more charcoal
>>>>> while I was adding the water because it would be one less opportunity
>>>>> to open it and mess with the temperature.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm watching the remote <g>
>>>>>
>>>> Janet, serious question.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?
>>>>
>>>> Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time of day.
>>> LOL! No beer. I only need beer when I'm house-painting. Can't seem to
>>> use a roller or a brush without a "painting facilitator"
>>>
>>> I did make some of my killer margaritas before dinner.
>>
>> Hmmm. No beer while the Q is cookin'...but 'killer margaritas' with
>> and maybe after eating the Q. Sounds like a fair swap.
>>
>Don't question it Denny. It's a chick thing.

<g> Toldja. This 'chick' drinks beer when she grills, not margaritas.
;-)

Desideria

"Nunya Bidnits" > wrote in


> I've been having some health problems and my doc is being a real killjoy
> about my diet. Besides having to eat less beef and pork and trimming away
> as
> much of the delicious fat as possible, and even worse, cut down my
> portions.
> (I suppose I could fire the doc instead of changing my diet... it's not
> out
> of the question!) I seem to be having some luck with beans. I've always
> liked them, but who knew black beans were so good for you!


It's like this, I once read that drinking was bad for you. I promptly gave
up reading.

TFM®

"Dave T." > wrote in message
...
> Denny Wheeler wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:21:47 -0500, Janet Wilder
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Craig Watts wrote:
>>>>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more
>>>>> charcoal while I was adding the water because it would be one
>>>>> less opportunity to open it and mess with the temperature.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm watching the remote <g>
>>>>>
>>>> Janet, serious question.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?
>>>>
>>>> Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time of
>>>> day.
>>> LOL! No beer. I only need beer when I'm house-painting. Can't seem
>>> to use a roller or a brush without a "painting facilitator"
>>>
>>> I did make some of my killer margaritas before dinner.
>>
>> Hmmm. No beer while the Q is cookin'...but 'killer margaritas'
>> with
>> and maybe after eating the Q. Sounds like a fair swap.
>>
> Don't question it Denny. It's a chick thing.
>
> --
> Dave T.
>
> "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
> mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the
> region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
> - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

Just goes to show how much of the country, including the congress and
senate,
had been taken in by the lies of Chaney and the shrub

CC wrote:
>
> "Dave T." > wrote in message

(snip)
>> Don't question it Denny. It's a chick thing.
>>
>> --
>> Dave T.
>>
>> "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
>> mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the
>> region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
>> - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
>
> Just goes to show how much of the country, including the congress and
> senate,
> had been taken in by the lies of Chaney and the shrub
>

That's Cheney and the shrub, dumbass.

--
Dave T.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

On 22-Mar-2009, "CC" > wrote:

> "Dave T." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Denny Wheeler wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:21:47 -0500, Janet Wilder
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Craig Watts wrote:
> >>>>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more
> >>>>> charcoal while I was adding the water because it would be one
> >>>>> less opportunity to open it and mess with the temperature.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm watching the remote <g>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Janet, serious question.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?
> >>>>
> >>>> Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time of
> >>>> day.
> >>> LOL! No beer. I only need beer when I'm house-painting. Can't seem
> >>> to use a roller or a brush without a "painting facilitator"
> >>>
> >>> I did make some of my killer margaritas before dinner.
> >>
> >> Hmmm. No beer while the Q is cookin'...but 'killer margaritas'
> >> with
> >> and maybe after eating the Q. Sounds like a fair swap.
> >>
> > Don't question it Denny. It's a chick thing.
> >
> > --
> > Dave T.
> >
> > "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
> > mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the
> > region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
> > - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
>
> Just goes to show how much of the country, including the congress and
> senate,
> had been taken in by the lies of Chaney and the shrub

I'm sorry, I can't help myself. Nancy Pelosi is the main voice of the
democratic party. She has no excuse for not knowing what is going
on. And enough of this political shit in this NG.

--
Brick(Too soon old and too late smart)

"Brick" > wrote:
> [ . . . ]
> I'm sorry, I can't help myself. Nancy Pelosi is the main voice of the
> democratic party. She has no excuse for not knowing what is going
> on. And enough of this political shit in this NG.

Again, as usual, Brick makes a good point. If a post is clearly marked OT,
that's one thing. If thread drift takes an excellent series of posts and
uses them as the basis for a bunch of socio-political ad hominum attacks,
regardless of by, for or against whom, I, personally, find that offensive.

--
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I have to apologize to the group, I should have not put in that
comment,
It seems every group had been inundated with so much political unrest
that
it just go to me at that moment
cc

"CC" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dave T." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Denny Wheeler wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:21:47 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Craig Watts wrote:
>>>>>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more
>>>>>> charcoal while I was adding the water because it would be one
>>>>>> less opportunity to open it and mess with the temperature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm watching the remote <g>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Janet, serious question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a beer in your hands whilst performing these duties?
>>>>>
>>>>> Men have found it medically necessary regardless of the time of
>>>>> day.
>>>> LOL! No beer. I only need beer when I'm house-painting. Can't
>>>> seem to use a roller or a brush without a "painting facilitator"
>>>>
>>>> I did make some of my killer margaritas before dinner.
>>>
>>> Hmmm. No beer while the Q is cookin'...but 'killer margaritas'
>>> with
>>> and maybe after eating the Q. Sounds like a fair swap.
>>>
>> Don't question it Denny. It's a chick thing.
>>
>> --
>> Dave T.
>>
>> "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
>> mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the
>> region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection
>> process."
>> - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
>
> Just goes to show how much of the country, including the congress
> and senate,
> had been taken in by the lies of Chaney and the shrub
>

"Duwop" > wrote in message
...
> On Mar 21, 9:10 am, Janet Wilder > wrote:
>> Duwop wrote:
>> > On Mar 21, 6:40 am, Janet Wilder > wrote:
>>
>> >> If it gets too hot, do I just take the cover off for a little while?
>>
>> > What's too hot for what you're doing in your opinion? I'd say 375,
>> > mebbe 400. I've had mine over 400 for periods when I (mis)used oak
>> > fireplace logs. I would dump heat when it got over 400, at least for
>> > periods when I was paying attention. The butts came out pretty damn
>> > well that cook too.
>>
>> >> Right now it's running at about 285° F.
>>
>> > If you can keep that you're golden. Like someone else mentioned your
>> > cooker has it's own sweet spot(s) it likes to be at.
>>
>> It did go up to a little over 300° for a bit, but seems to be hovering
>> between 250° and 285° I just checked it and added some water and a
>> little bit of charcoal, so it will have to come up to temp again.
>>
>> I figured that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add a bit more charcoal
>> while I was adding the water because it would be one less opportunity to
>> open it and mess with the temperature.
>>
>> I'm watching the remote <g>
>>
>> --
>
> I know I tended fire like a demon when I first started, what you'll
> want to take from it is how long, on average, the cooker can go on a
> single load.
>
> I'm pretty damn sure you're messing with it a lot more than you will
> after another 4 cooks or so.
>
> It's a new toy after all, gotta play with it some.
>
>

Indeed. After untold years of fire tending, I just light the fire, wait for
the smoke to turn that lovely Chevy exhaust blue and start drinking.

It gets so easy after a while, you forget about thermometers on the cooker
and worry more about thermometers in the beer cooler.

TFM®