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Are these things any good?
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:48:43 +0100, Jeremy wrote:
> Are these things any good? Have you never read this group? If you do a Google search just for the last 3 months, you'll find all you need. It's not like it hasn't been discussed here literally, a thousand times. The Brinkmann Gourmet Charcoal is what you want. -sw |
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![]() "Jeremy" > wrote in message > Are these things any good? > No. It sunk when I tried to use it for an anchor buoy because the holes in the bottom did not seal very well. |
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Jeremy wrote:
> Are these things any good? For hunting or self-defense? -- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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"Dave Bugg" > wrote in news
![]() : > Jeremy wrote: >> Are these things any good? > > For hunting or self-defense? > Shut the **** up, troll. |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 03:39:20 +0000 (UTC), smokerjoker
> wrote: >"Dave Bugg" > wrote in news ![]() : > >> Jeremy wrote: >>> Are these things any good? >> >> For hunting or self-defense? >> > (snip) In an admittedly quick assessment, I have to say that I doubt DAVE to be the troll here. Desideria |
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smokerjoker wrote:
-- Dave What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan |
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![]() "Jeremy" > wrote in message ... > Are these things any good? > > JJ > >Check this out and decide for yourself...I just bought a used Weber Bullet >and love it. http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ Just like any other aparatis...ya have to get used to how it operates but 16 hour plus smoking sessions apparently very common. Cheers DJ |
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On Jul 6, 2:42*am, "D&M JOHNSTON" > wrote:
> "Jeremy" > wrote in message > > ... > > > Are these things any good? > > > JJ > > >Check this out and decide for yourself...I just bought a used Weber Bullet > >and love it. > > http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ > > Just like any other aparatis...ya have to get used to how it operates but 16 > hour plus smoking sessions apparently very common. > > Cheers > DJ Very easy to regulate and hold temperatures. |
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Jeremy" > wrote in message
... > Are these things any good? > > JJ > > Yea, but a Big Green Egg is better. |
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![]() "Denny Wheeler" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:43:16 -0400, "Joed" > wrote: > >>Jeremy" > wrote in message ... >>> Are these things any good? >>> >>> JJ >>> >>> >> >>Yea, but a Big Green Egg is better. > > And WAY spendier. And WAY heavier. And a much bigger PITA if one > needs to add fuel. That said--I'd like to have a BGE--but I'd like to > have a WSM with it. > It is spendier but my egg is going on ten years old. I replaced the $10 gasket twice and had a cracked fire box replaced under warranty when it was three years old. If it cracks again today it gets replaced again for free again. Anything ceramic is guarantied for life. It also is much heavier. But that is what makes NOT having to add more fuel during a 20+ hour cook possible. Once I put some pork butts on 11 pm on Friday night. They came off around 4 pm on Saturday and started cooking chicken parts. Then burgers. Started drinking and forgot to close the egg down and woke up Sunday morning to a 320 degree dome and some fuel left. I can sear a steak over 1100 degree coals or do a low and slow in the middle of the winter during a snow storm. I bake bread and do pizza, all on one egg. Food seems to retain more moisture cooking with ceramics But it is a lot more money, so it might not be for everyone. > -- > -denny- > > Some people are offence kleptomaniacs -- whenever they see > an offence that isn't nailed down, they take it ;-) > --David C. Pugh, in alt.callahans > > Know the signs! > http://www.heartinfo.org/ms/guides/9/main.html |
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The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F with
Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. Morten |
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Morten Westh wrote:
> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F with > Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. > > Morten Just curious Morten - Are you hawking a product on a usenet group? Bob |
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Bob Muncie skrev:
> Morten Westh wrote: >> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F >> with Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. >> >> Morten > > Just curious Morten - Are you hawking a product on a usenet group? > > Bob Nope, I'm not selling anything - just a very happy WSM user. BTW, I am not sure, what you mean by "hawking"... English is not my primary language. Some other guy wrote about his BGE running for a long time, I just wanted to show, that it can be done on a WSM too. Morten Morten |
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Morten Westh wrote:
> Bob Muncie skrev: >> Morten Westh wrote: >>> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F >>> with Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. >>> >>> Morten >> >> Just curious Morten - Are you hawking a product on a usenet group? >> >> Bob > > Nope, I'm not selling anything - just a very happy WSM user. BTW, I am > not sure, what you mean by "hawking"... English is not my primary language. > Some other guy wrote about his BGE running for a long time, I just > wanted to show, that it can be done on a WSM too. > > Morten > > Morten Morten - You will note that I was not rude. I was referring to the selling of (cheap advertising) of "heat beads". I had not actually heard of them until you posted about them. And therefore looked them up via google. If English is not your first language, kudos to you, as I would never have known had you not said it. Regards, Bob |
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Morten Westh wrote:
> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F with > Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. > > Morten That's takes some excellent fire control skills on any equipment. Hats off to you. |
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Morten Westh > wrote:
> Bob Muncie skrev: > > Morten Westh wrote: > >> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F > >> with Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. > > Just curious Morten - Are you hawking a product on a usenet group? > Nope, I'm not selling anything - just a very happy WSM user. BTW, I am > not sure, what you mean by "hawking"... English is not my primary > language. Some other guy wrote about his BGE running for a long time, I > just wanted to show, that it can be done on a WSM too. Hi Morten. Welcome to the group. You'll notice that there's a wide range of personalities here, besides the wide range of experience and opinions. BM continues to show his better side. "Hawking" means advertising or selling. I have a New Braunsfel offset smoker. We also grill over its firebox. I recommend the New Braunsfel for those who want an offset smoker, but I'm not "hawking" it! ;-))) What are Heat Beads? What kind of stuff do you cook? What part of "the happiest place in the world" do you live in? I hoist one in your general direction. Skaal! -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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Nick Cramer wrote:
> Morten Westh > wrote: >> Bob Muncie skrev: >>> Morten Westh wrote: >>>> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F >>>> with Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. > >>> Just curious Morten - Are you hawking a product on a usenet group? > >> Nope, I'm not selling anything - just a very happy WSM user. BTW, I am >> not sure, what you mean by "hawking"... English is not my primary >> language. Some other guy wrote about his BGE running for a long time, I >> just wanted to show, that it can be done on a WSM too. > > Hi Morten. Welcome to the group. You'll notice that there's a wide range of > personalities here, besides the wide range of experience and opinions. BM > continues to show his better side. "Hawking" means advertising or selling. > I have a New Braunsfel offset smoker. We also grill over its firebox. I > recommend the New Braunsfel for those who want an offset smoker, but I'm > not "hawking" it! ;-))) > > What are Heat Beads? What kind of stuff do you cook? What part of "the > happiest place in the world" do you live in? > > I hoist one in your general direction. Skaal! > Hey there Nick. and yes, I'll be the first to say you are right on the whole personality thing. You will notice I also did not say anything negative here about you. I would not. You have been a nice guy for the longest... No issues here. Nor do I have any with anyone just being a nice person. Test me on that if you want. I actually like nice people :-) Bob |
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Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> In , > Morten Westh > typed: >> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F >> with Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. >> >> Morten > > Heat Beads? > My thought exactly ( hint hint here Doug). I use lump, and I have a number of woods that add value. Apple, mesquite, cherry, etc. Bob |
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Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> In , > Morten Westh > typed: >> The WSM is great... I have had a 22" running for 32 hours at 210° F >> with Heat Beads, using the Minion Method, without adding fuel. >> >> Morten > > Heat Beads? > I suppose I should have also said Nick... I hit the send too quickly. Bob |
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Hi All (-:
Just what I thought, "hawking" meant...(-: I have been following this newsgroup for a couple of years, and have learned a lot! Let me introduce myself: I live in Denmark, near Copenhagen, and I have been cooking on the WSM for 2½ years. I use my grills 2-4 times a week all year, most often my Weber Q300 or the Performer, my WSM's are mainly used on weekends and holidays. I cook all kinds of food on the grill, the smokers are mainly used for old-school american bbq. I am a (proud) member of The Danish National BBQ Team, (see http://www.bbqlandsholdet.dk/Default.aspx?ID=341 - sorry, the english version is far from complete). The team was at the Memphis in May-contest this year, and took a third place in "exotic" - the reciepe included shanks of lamb, cooked on the WSM with Kingsford and birch-tree from my garden. In Memphis we used a lot of Royal Oak, a few bags of Kingsford and some Kingsford Competition for the longer cookings - I really liked those a lot! Heat Beads are an australian charcoal briquette, very much like Kingsford - you can't buy Kingsford in Europe )-: They burn a little longer than Kingsford, but not as hot, which makes makes them perfect for low&slow. I rarely use lump charcoal, it is very hard to find good quality lump in Denmark. Morten |
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Morten Westh wrote:
> Hi All (-: > > Just what I thought, "hawking" meant...(-: I have been following this > newsgroup for a couple of years, and have learned a lot! > > Let me introduce myself: I live in Denmark, near Copenhagen, and I have > been cooking on the WSM for 2½ years. I use my grills 2-4 times a week > all year, most often my Weber Q300 or the Performer, my WSM's are mainly > used on weekends and holidays. I cook all kinds of food on the grill, > the smokers are mainly used for old-school american bbq. > I am a (proud) member of The Danish National BBQ Team, (see > http://www.bbqlandsholdet.dk/Default.aspx?ID=341 - sorry, the english > version is far from complete). The team was at the Memphis in > May-contest this year, and took a third place in "exotic" - the reciepe > included shanks of lamb, cooked on the WSM with Kingsford and birch-tree > from my garden. In Memphis we used a lot of Royal Oak, a few bags of > Kingsford and some Kingsford Competition for the longer cookings - I > really liked those a lot! > > Heat Beads are an australian charcoal briquette, very much like > Kingsford - you can't buy Kingsford in Europe )-: They burn a little > longer than Kingsford, but not as hot, which makes makes them perfect > for low&slow. I rarely use lump charcoal, it is very hard to find good > quality lump in Denmark. > > Morten Thanks for sharing more information Morton... I'd share a beer with you now :-) Bob |
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Bob Muncie wrote:
> Morten Westh wrote: >> Hi All (-: >> >> Just what I thought, "hawking" meant...(-: I have been following this >> newsgroup for a couple of years, and have learned a lot! >> >> Let me introduce myself: I live in Denmark, near Copenhagen, and I >> have been cooking on the WSM for 2½ years. I use my grills 2-4 times a >> week all year, most often my Weber Q300 or the Performer, my WSM's are >> mainly used on weekends and holidays. I cook all kinds of food on the >> grill, the smokers are mainly used for old-school american bbq. >> I am a (proud) member of The Danish National BBQ Team, (see >> http://www.bbqlandsholdet.dk/Default.aspx?ID=341 - sorry, the english >> version is far from complete). The team was at the Memphis in >> May-contest this year, and took a third place in "exotic" - the >> reciepe included shanks of lamb, cooked on the WSM with Kingsford and >> birch-tree from my garden. In Memphis we used a lot of Royal Oak, a >> few bags of Kingsford and some Kingsford Competition for the longer >> cookings - I really liked those a lot! >> >> Heat Beads are an australian charcoal briquette, very much like >> Kingsford - you can't buy Kingsford in Europe )-: They burn a little >> longer than Kingsford, but not as hot, which makes makes them perfect >> for low&slow. I rarely use lump charcoal, it is very hard to find good >> quality lump in Denmark. >> >> Morten > > Thanks for sharing more information Morton... I'd share a beer with you > now :-) > > Bob Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did mean the beer thing though :-) |
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![]() > > Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did mean the beer > thing though :-) That's allright - if we ever meet IRL, we'll have a beer or two (-: Morten |
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On Jul 15, 1:03*pm, Morten Westh > wrote:
> Let me introduce myself: I live in Denmark, near Copenhagen, and I have > been cooking on the WSM for 2½ years. I use my grills 2-4 times a week > all year, most often my Weber Q300 or the Performer, my WSM's are mainly > used on weekends and holidays. I cook all kinds of food on the grill, > the smokers are mainly used for old-school american bbq. > I am a (proud) member of The Danish National BBQ Team, (seehttp://www.bbqlandsholdet.dk/Default.aspx?ID=341- sorry, the english > version is far from complete). The team was at the Memphis in > May-contest this year, and took a third place in "exotic" - the reciepe > included shanks of lamb, cooked on the WSM with Kingsford and birch-tree > from my garden. Firkin awesome. "The Danish National BBQ Team", I love it. When I first was in Europe (Germany mainly) I had the normal prejudice that US grilling and BBQ was simply the best. I learned fast enough that camp and campfire cooking is an ancient tradition has developed into an art. You boys got some damn good tricks up your sleeves. Of course learning that sort of lesson is a lot easier to swallow when it tastes so good and downed with some good beer or homemade hard apple cider. |
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Morten Westh > wrote:
> Hi All (-: > > Just what I thought, "hawking" meant...(-: I have been following this > newsgroup for a couple of years, and have learned a lot! > > Let me introduce myself: I live in Denmark, near Copenhagen, and I have > been cooking on the WSM for 2½ years. I use my grills 2-4 times a week > all year, most often my Weber Q300 or the Performer, my WSM's are mainly > used on weekends and holidays. I cook all kinds of food on the grill, > the smokers are mainly used for old-school american bbq. > I am a (proud) member of The Danish National BBQ Team, (see > http://www.bbqlandsholdet.dk/Default.aspx?ID=341 - sorry, the english > version is far from complete). The team was at the Memphis in > May-contest this year, and took a third place in "exotic" - the reciepe > included shanks of lamb, cooked on the WSM with Kingsford and birch-tree > from my garden. In Memphis we used a lot of Royal Oak, a few bags of > Kingsford and some Kingsford Competition for the longer cookings - I > really liked those a lot! > > Heat Beads are an australian charcoal briquette, very much like > Kingsford - you can't buy Kingsford in Europe )-: They burn a little > longer than Kingsford, but not as hot, which makes makes them perfect > for low&slow. I rarely use lump charcoal, it is very hard to find good > quality lump in Denmark. Yep. Yer the real deal! You came to Memphis? KEWL! So is yer web site! Does yer daughter stay healthy on the vegetarian diet? I love lamb. Do you use a rub or what? I have an easy recipe for Danish Roast (smoked) Duck, which I last made several years ago. The stuffing is apples and prunes. I don't know how authentic it is, but it was good. For hardwood lump charcoal, you should be able to order it from different countries, especially in Club quantities. Have you checked out Danish http://www.hardwood-charcoal.com/ Also you can make yor own. Good project for the kids. -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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Morten Westh > wrote:
unattributed poster wrote: > > > > Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did mean the > > beer thing though :-) > > That's allright - if we ever meet IRL, we'll have a beer or two (-: If you Danes drink like the Finns I've met, I'm in trouble! -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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Nick Cramer wrote:
> Morten Westh > wrote: > unattributed poster wrote: >>> Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did mean the >>> beer thing though :-) >> That's allright - if we ever meet IRL, we'll have a beer or two (-: > > If you Danes drink like the Finns I've met, I'm in trouble! > Many an evening do I remember the quote of "ein alt bitter", over and over again... and the coaster ended up looking like a railroad track. Those were good times :-) Bob |
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![]() "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message ... > Morten Westh > wrote: >> Hi All (-: >> >> Just what I thought, "hawking" meant...(-: I have been >> following this >> newsgroup for a couple of years, and have learned a lot! >> >> Let me introduce myself: I live in Denmark, near Copenhagen, >> and I have >> been cooking on the WSM for 2½ years. I use my grills 2-4 times >> a week >> all year, most often my Weber Q300 or the Performer, my WSM's >> are mainly >> used on weekends and holidays. I cook all kinds of food on the >> grill, >> the smokers are mainly used for old-school american bbq. >> I am a (proud) member of The Danish National BBQ Team, (see >> http://www.bbqlandsholdet.dk/Default.aspx?ID=341 - sorry, the >> english >> version is far from complete). The team was at the Memphis in >> May-contest this year, and took a third place in "exotic" - the >> reciepe >> included shanks of lamb, cooked on the WSM with Kingsford and >> birch-tree >> from my garden. In Memphis we used a lot of Royal Oak, a few >> bags of >> Kingsford and some Kingsford Competition for the longer >> cookings - I >> really liked those a lot! >> >> Heat Beads are an australian charcoal briquette, very much like >> Kingsford - you can't buy Kingsford in Europe )-: They burn a >> little >> longer than Kingsford, but not as hot, which makes makes them >> perfect >> for low&slow. I rarely use lump charcoal, it is very hard to >> find good >> quality lump in Denmark. > > Yep. Yer the real deal! You came to Memphis? KEWL! So is yer web > site! Does > yer daughter stay healthy on the vegetarian diet? > > I love lamb. Do you use a rub or what? I have an easy recipe for > Danish > Roast (smoked) Duck, which I last made several years ago. The > stuffing is > apples and prunes. I don't know how authentic it is, but it was > good. > > For hardwood lump charcoal, you should be able to order it from > different > countries, especially in Club quantities. Have you checked out > Danish > http://www.hardwood-charcoal.com/ Also you can make yor own. > Good project > for the kids. Morten, the best part is that you all look like you're having a great time. Keep it up. -- Nonny Giving money and power to liberals is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:42:56 -0400, Bob Muncie >
wrote: >Nick Cramer wrote: >> Morten Westh > wrote: >> unattributed poster wrote: >>>> Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did mean the >>>> beer thing though :-) >>> That's allright - if we ever meet IRL, we'll have a beer or two (-: >> >> If you Danes drink like the Finns I've met, I'm in trouble! >> > >Many an evening do I remember the quote of "ein alt bitter", over and >over again... and the coaster ended up looking like a railroad track. > >Those were good times :-) > >Bob > You remember them? Perhaps they weren't good enough, Bob! Desideria |
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Desideria wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:42:56 -0400, Bob Muncie > > wrote: > >> Nick Cramer wrote: >>> Morten Westh > wrote: >>> unattributed poster wrote: >>>>> Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did mean the >>>>> beer thing though :-) >>>> That's allright - if we ever meet IRL, we'll have a beer or two (-: >>> If you Danes drink like the Finns I've met, I'm in trouble! >>> >> Many an evening do I remember the quote of "ein alt bitter", over and >> over again... and the coaster ended up looking like a railroad track. >> >> Those were good times :-) >> >> Bob >> > > You remember them? Perhaps they weren't good enough, Bob! > > > Desideria Sweetie - I was always a nice drunk. The memories I have from back then are likely colored by delusion, but I do think most were laughing with me, not at me if you know what I mean. I also remember a number of sweet people I interacted with so to speak, and have a vivid memory. And even if it's colored by illusion,they are good memories. Back on topic... I agree with most that have posted here. The Smokey Mountain is hands down a better product then the ECB, but the pluses can be overcome with engineering, and I happen to have a dual remote with a temp gage for both the surface of the grill, and one for the meat. It is a product all smokers should have. I have the Maverick ET-73, and it was worth every penny. I don't have to open lid to get a status, and once I make the mods on my new ECB, I will only need to add lump once in a while. Bob |
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Desideria > wrote:
> Bob Muncie > wrote: > >Nick Cramer wrote: > >> Morten Westh > wrote: > >> unattributed poster wrote: > >>>> Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did mean the > >>>> beer thing though :-) > >>> That's allright - if we ever meet IRL, we'll have a beer or two (-: > >> > >> If you Danes drink like the Finns I've met, I'm in trouble! > >Many an evening do I remember the quote of "ein alt bitter", over and > >over again... and the coaster ended up looking like a railroad track. > > > >Those were good times :-) > You remember them? Perhaps they weren't good enough, Bob! Those Finns were electronic broadcast engineers. These Danes are BBQers! -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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On 16 Jul., 04:31, Nick Cramer > wrote:
> Yep. Yer the real deal! You came to Memphis? KEWL! So is yer web site! Does > yer daughter stay healthy on the vegetarian diet? > > I love lamb. Do you use a rub or what? I have an easy recipe for Danish > Roast (smoked) Duck, which I last made several years ago. The stuffing is > apples and prunes. I don't know how authentic it is, but it was good. > > For hardwood lump charcoal, you should be able to order it from different > countries, especially in Club quantities. Have you checked out Danishhttp://www.hardwood-charcoal.com/Also you can make yor own. Good project > for the kids. > Yes, my daughter stays healthy - and so do my wife and I (-: In our Memphis-reciepe, we used a rub containing a mix of black, white and green pepper, garlic powder, cumin, sweet paprika, cinnamon, onion powder and salt for the lamb. You can see the reciepe at http://bbqlandsholdet.dk/Default.aspx?ID=394 (in danish..) I have cooked leg of lamb several times, using a rub containing black pepper, oregano, parsley, salt and lemon zest. Smoke with plum or cherry for about 5 hours, and you're in for a treat. The team is going to Memphis again next year, I'll hope to see some of you there.. Morten PS: No-one drinks like Finns (-; |
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![]() "Nick Cramer" > wrote in message ... > Desideria > wrote: >> Bob Muncie > wrote: >> >Nick Cramer wrote: >> >> Morten Westh > wrote: >> >> unattributed poster wrote: >> >>>> Damn... Even mispelled your name... my bad "Morten". I did >> >>>> mean the >> >>>> beer thing though :-) >> >>> That's allright - if we ever meet IRL, we'll have a beer or >> >>> two (-: >> >> >> >> If you Danes drink like the Finns I've met, I'm in trouble! > >> >Many an evening do I remember the quote of "ein alt bitter", >> >over and >> >over again... and the coaster ended up looking like a railroad >> >track. >> > >> >Those were good times :-) > >> You remember them? Perhaps they weren't good enough, Bob! > > Those Finns were electronic broadcast engineers. These Danes are > BBQers! We were at a Savon pharmacy, inside and Albertson's store today getting the Shingles vaccine. While waiting, I walked to the meat counter and saw a really nice stack of ribs. They were nicely trimmed and the bones small. The sign said, "A PRODUCT OF DENMARK." -- Nonny Giving money and power to liberals is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. |
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