I was a little confused on the instructions to season
my Charbroil Silver (NBS). It says not to let any coals
touch the edges. Yet when you pour them on the grate
some always fall through. I tried using foil on the grate
to aleviate this but it seemed to inhibit the fire of the
coals and the smoker never got hot enough (even the holes
in the foil and plenty of coals.)

When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
coming of on the bottom where the ashes were. I assume that
this area did not season correctly due to the ashes toucing,
as the instructions had warned.

Am I over thinking this or is there something I should know?
I plan to go get some of that new Pam that is made for
seasoning/grills (higher temp I guess)

Jesse

Jesse Skeens wrote:
> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.

Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
engine paint.
--
-frohe (Q ain't a beauty contest)
Life is too short to be in a hurry

Jesse Skeens wrote:
> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.

Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
engine paint.
--
-frohe (Q ain't a beauty contest)
Life is too short to be in a hurry

"frohe" > wrote in message >...
> Jesse Skeens wrote:
> > When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> > coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
>
> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
> inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
> break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
> forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
> less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
> SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
> engine paint.

Cosmetically I could are less but I was worried about rust forming.
It gets pretty humid here in Orlando and I've had problems with rust
on cast iron grates before.

Jesse

Jesse Skeens wrote:
> "frohe" > wrote in message
> >...
>> Jesse Skeens wrote:
>>> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
>>> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
>>
>> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
>> inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
>> break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
>> forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
>> less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
>> SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
>> engine paint.
>
> Cosmetically I could are less but I was worried about rust forming.
> It gets pretty humid here in Orlando and I've had problems with rust
> on cast iron grates before.
>
> Jesse

Cook fatty meats, and *DON'T* clean off the grease. Keep the metal all greased
up. When I lived on the coast just east of Orlando (one of the "rust capitals"
of the world) I kept a black box from rusting using this method. Sometime back
Hound posted a picture of a new cooker of his, showing *his* method of rust
control...cooking fatty meats and using the fat to "season" the rusty spots.

BOB

Jesse Skeens wrote:
> "frohe" > wrote in message
> >...
>> Jesse Skeens wrote:
>>> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
>>> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
>>
>> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
>> inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
>> break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
>> forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
>> less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
>> SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
>> engine paint.
>
> Cosmetically I could are less but I was worried about rust forming.
> It gets pretty humid here in Orlando and I've had problems with rust
> on cast iron grates before.
>
> Jesse

Cook fatty meats, and *DON'T* clean off the grease. Keep the metal all greased
up. When I lived on the coast just east of Orlando (one of the "rust capitals"
of the world) I kept a black box from rusting using this method. Sometime back
Hound posted a picture of a new cooker of his, showing *his* method of rust
control...cooking fatty meats and using the fat to "season" the rusty spots.

BOB

BOB wrote:
> Jesse Skeens wrote:
>> "frohe" > wrote in message
>> >...
>>> Jesse Skeens wrote:
>>>> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
>>>> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
>>>
>>> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
>>> inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
>>> break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
>>> forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
>>> less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
>>> SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
>>> engine paint.
>>
>> Cosmetically I could are less but I was worried about rust forming.
>> It gets pretty humid here in Orlando and I've had problems with rust
>> on cast iron grates before.
>>
>> Jesse
>
> Cook fatty meats, and *DON'T* clean off the grease. Keep the metal all
greased
> up. When I lived on the coast just east of Orlando (one of the "rust
capitals"
> of the world) I kept a black box from rusting using this method. Sometime
back
> Hound posted a picture of a new cooker of his, showing *his* method of rust
> control...cooking fatty meats and using the fat to "season" the rusty spots.
>
> BOB

P.S.
In other words, think "SEASONED" like in cast iron cookware.

BOB

Jesse Skeens wrote:
> Cosmetically I could are less but I was worried about rust forming.
> It gets pretty humid here in Orlando and I've had problems with rust
> on cast iron grates before.

Cook often enough and any rust problem ya may have will take care of
itself. Rust on the outside can be taken care of with a wire brush
and some oil.
--
-frohe
Life is too short to be in a hurry

"Jesse Skeens" > wrote in message
m...
> I was a little confused on the instructions to season
> my Charbroil Silver (NBS). It says not to let any coals
> touch the edges. Yet when you pour them on the grate
> some always fall through. I tried using foil on the grate
> to aleviate this but it seemed to inhibit the fire of the
> coals and the smoker never got hot enough (even the holes
> in the foil and plenty of coals.)
>
> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were. I assume that
> this area did not season correctly due to the ashes toucing,
> as the instructions had warned.
>
> Am I over thinking this or is there something I should know?
> I plan to go get some of that new Pam that is made for
> seasoning/grills (higher temp I guess)
>
> Jesse

Just about the highest temp cooking oil you can get is grape seed oil (smoke
point wise).

I just don't think you can worry about the paint on any smoker, It's gonna peel.

David Klose said the only paint he ever used that didn't peel was stuff they
used on the space shuttle and it was $650/gal.

Tyler

On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:

> Jesse Skeens wrote:
> > When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> > coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
>
> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
> inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
> break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
> forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
> less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
> SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
> engine paint.
> --
> -frohe (Q ain't a beauty contest)
> Life is too short to be in a hurry

My NBS firebox has a lot of coating burned off of it. It didn't occur
to me to repaint it. My cooker don't sit out in the rain though, so
I have an advantage. Mine's in a screen room with a concrete pad
under it.

--
M&M ("When You're Over The Hill You Pick Up Speed")

Jesse Skeens wrote:


> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were. I assume that
> this area did not season correctly due to the ashes toucing,
> as the instructions had warned.
>
> Am I over thinking this or is there something I should know?
> I plan to go get some of that new Pam that is made for
> seasoning/grills (higher temp I guess)

Coals are going to hit the bottom, it's a fact of life.

Personally, I treat inside of the cooking chamber of my
NBS a little like it's a cast iron pan. Season initially
with oil (it almost doesn't matter what kind you use)
and rinse it water when you want to clean it. The natural
dripping of fat from cooking meat will keep the bottom
seasoned quite well. Smoke buildup seems to take care
of the top of the cooking chamber.

The firebox itself, it's not going to keep a season
with a fire going in there. So I basically don't worry
about the inside.

The original paint on the outside burns off pretty easily,
so every now and again I'll touch it up. I use a wire
wheel to clean it up and then shoot some Rust-O-Leum
high-temp paint. Most of the time, there's paint missing
from the outside bottom of my firebox.

Cheers,
Dana

Jesse Skeens wrote:


> When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> coming of on the bottom where the ashes were. I assume that
> this area did not season correctly due to the ashes toucing,
> as the instructions had warned.
>
> Am I over thinking this or is there something I should know?
> I plan to go get some of that new Pam that is made for
> seasoning/grills (higher temp I guess)

Coals are going to hit the bottom, it's a fact of life.

Personally, I treat inside of the cooking chamber of my
NBS a little like it's a cast iron pan. Season initially
with oil (it almost doesn't matter what kind you use)
and rinse it water when you want to clean it. The natural
dripping of fat from cooking meat will keep the bottom
seasoned quite well. Smoke buildup seems to take care
of the top of the cooking chamber.

The firebox itself, it's not going to keep a season
with a fire going in there. So I basically don't worry
about the inside.

The original paint on the outside burns off pretty easily,
so every now and again I'll touch it up. I use a wire
wheel to clean it up and then shoot some Rust-O-Leum
high-temp paint. Most of the time, there's paint missing
from the outside bottom of my firebox.

Cheers,
Dana

"M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
@library1.airnews.net:

>
> On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:
>
>> Jesse Skeens wrote:
>> > When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
>> > coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
>>
>> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
>> inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
>> break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
>> forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
>> less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
>> SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
>> engine paint.
>> --
>> -frohe (Q ain't a beauty contest)
>> Life is too short to be in a hurry
>
> My NBS firebox has a lot of coating burned off of it. It didn't occur
> to me to repaint it. My cooker don't sit out in the rain though, so
> I have an advantage. Mine's in a screen room with a concrete pad
> under it.
>

You do your smoking in a screened room?

--
StocksRus®

"StocksRus®" wrote:
>
> "M&M" > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> > On 11-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
> >
> >> "M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
> >> @library1.airnews.net:
> >>
> >> >

> >> You do your smoking in a screened room?
> >>
> >> --
> >> StocksRus®
> >
> > Yep sir, I sure do. And your point is? There's at least one
> > commercial BBQ company here in the (Tampa) Bay area
> > that cooks in a screened enclosure. What's the objection?
> >
>
> I meant nothing derogatory, only I have a screened in porch and the wife
> says no way.

These guys really need to lighten up. Always so apt to attack.

-CAL

On 12-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:

> "M&M" > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> > On 11-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
> >
> >> "M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
> >> @library1.airnews.net:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Jesse Skeens wrote:

<snip>

> >>
> >> You do your smoking in a screened room?
> >>
> >> --
> >> StocksRus®
> >
> > Yep sir, I sure do. And your point is? There's at least one
> > commercial BBQ company here in the (Tampa) Bay area
> > that cooks in a screened enclosure. What's the objection?
> >
>
> I meant nothing derogatory, only I have a screened in porch and the wife
> says no way.
>
> --
> StocksRus®

Ah, I understand. My wife has never even mentioned it, but then our
screened in porch is more of a utility area then a place to entertain.

--
M&M ("When You're Over The Hill You Pick Up Speed")

"M&M" > wrote in news:ccuhlu
:

>
> On 12-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
>
>> "M&M" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> >
>> > On 11-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
>> >> @library1.airnews.net:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Jesse Skeens wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> >>
>> >> You do your smoking in a screened room?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> StocksRus®
>> >
>> > Yep sir, I sure do. And your point is? There's at least one
>> > commercial BBQ company here in the (Tampa) Bay area
>> > that cooks in a screened enclosure. What's the objection?
>> >
>>
>> I meant nothing derogatory, only I have a screened in porch and the wife
>> says no way.
>>
>> --
>> StocksRus®
>
> Ah, I understand. My wife has never even mentioned it, but then our
> screened in porch is more of a utility area then a place to entertain.
>

Hell, the only entertaining I do on the porch is when I want to smoke a
cigarette or cigar. And I'm the only one entertained.
She's more afraid of the kitties getting too close to the WSM. They spend
more time out there than I do.
I'm more envious than anything. The skeeters

--
StocksRus®

Ditto. Smoked some fish out there last night. The Weber Genesis is out there,
too. In five years there has been no problem with the ceiling or the screen.

Dan


M&M wrote:
> On 11-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
>
>
>>"M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
:
>>
>>
>>>On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jesse Skeens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
>>>>>coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
>>>>
>>>>Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
>>>>inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
>>>>break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
>>>>forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
>>>>less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
>>>>SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
>>>>engine paint.
>>>>--
>>>>-frohe (Q ain't a beauty contest)
>>>>Life is too short to be in a hurry
>>>
>>>My NBS firebox has a lot of coating burned off of it. It didn't occur
>>>to me to repaint it. My cooker don't sit out in the rain though, so
>>>I have an advantage. Mine's in a screen room with a concrete pad
>>>under it.
>>>
>>
>>You do your smoking in a screened room?
>>
>>--
>>StocksRus®
>
>
> Yep sir, I sure do. And your point is? There's at least one
> commercial BBQ company here in the (Tampa) Bay area
> that cooks in a screened enclosure. What's the objection?
>

On 11-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:

> "M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
> @library1.airnews.net:
>
> >
> > On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:
> >
> >> Jesse Skeens wrote:
> >> > When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> >> > coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
> >>
> >> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned loose
> >> inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a brush and
> >> break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace else inside,
> >> forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice. Me, I could care
> >> less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If it bothers you or
> >> SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop and buy some black
> >> engine paint.
> >> --
> >> -frohe (Q ain't a beauty contest)
> >> Life is too short to be in a hurry
> >
> > My NBS firebox has a lot of coating burned off of it. It didn't occur
> > to me to repaint it. My cooker don't sit out in the rain though, so
> > I have an advantage. Mine's in a screen room with a concrete pad
> > under it.
> >
>
> You do your smoking in a screened room?
>
> --
> StocksRus®

Sure do. I haven't perceived any problem with it. The smoke blows through the
screen like it wasn't there. On the upside, I'm not bothered by the incessnant
rain this time of year.

--
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On 12-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:

> "M&M" > wrote in
> :
>
> >
> > On 11-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
> >
> >> "M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
> >> @library1.airnews.net:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Jesse Skeens wrote:
> >> >> > When I cleaned her up the other day I notice some of the paint
> >> >> > coming of on the bottom where the ashes were.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any cooker's gonna turn loose of its paint, Jesse. If it turned
> >> >> loose inside your cooker and over the cooking area, ya wanna get a
> >> >> brush and break it off so it don't fall on your food. Anyplace
> >> >> else inside, forget about it. On the outside, it's your choice.
> >> >> Me, I could care less with that ol 55 gallon cooker of mine. If
> >> >> it bothers you or SWMBO, then make a trip to your local auto shop
> >> >> and buy some black engine paint.
> >> >> --
> >> >> -frohe (Q ain't a beauty contest)
> >> >> Life is too short to be in a hurry
> >> >
> >> > My NBS firebox has a lot of coating burned off of it. It didn't
> >> > occur to me to repaint it. My cooker don't sit out in the rain
> >> > though, so I have an advantage. Mine's in a screen room with a
> >> > concrete pad under it.
> >> >
> >>
> >> You do your smoking in a screened room?
> >>
> >> --
> >> StocksRus®
> >
> > Yep sir, I sure do. And your point is? There's at least one
> > commercial BBQ company here in the (Tampa) Bay area
> > that cooks in a screened enclosure. What's the objection?
> >
>
> I meant nothing derogatory, only I have a screened in porch and the wife
> says no way.
>
> --
> StocksRus®

Perhaps you have furniture out there that she doesn't want to smell like
a BBQ pit. Or perhaps some floor covering. Mine is just a screened in lanai
on a concrete pad and the only furniture is plastic outdoor stuff. The entire
affair is made out of sheet metal and fine mesh screen.
--
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On 12-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:

> "M&M" > wrote in news:ccuhlu
> :
>
> >
> > On 12-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
> >
> >> "M&M" > wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 11-Jul-2004, "StocksRus®" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "M&M" > wrote in news:ccri21$m67
> >> >> @library1.airnews.net:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 10-Jul-2004, "frohe" > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Jesse Skeens wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> >>
> >> >> You do your smoking in a screened room?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> StocksRus®
> >> >
> >> > Yep sir, I sure do. And your point is? There's at least one
> >> > commercial BBQ company here in the (Tampa) Bay area
> >> > that cooks in a screened enclosure. What's the objection?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I meant nothing derogatory, only I have a screened in porch and the wife
> >> says no way.
> >>
> >> --
> >> StocksRus®
> >
> > Ah, I understand. My wife has never even mentioned it, but then our
> > screened in porch is more of a utility area then a place to entertain.
> >
>
> Hell, the only entertaining I do on the porch is when I want to smoke a
> cigarette or cigar. And I'm the only one entertained.
> She's more afraid of the kitties getting too close to the WSM. They spend
> more time out there than I do.
> I'm more envious than anything. The skeeters
>
> --
> StocksRus®

Odd, your mentioning the skeeters. When I was first here in Tampa Bay
in the late '60's, they flew a DC3 mosquito bomber down the Tampa Bay
peninsula every night at dusk and towed fogging devices through all the
neighborhoods. The skeeters were fierce even so, but tolerable with all
the chemical attack. Since I came back here 12 years ago, I haven't seen
a mosquito. They still employ ground vehicle foggers, but the fog they
emit is not noticable inside the house. Also they only fog intermittently,
perhaps once a week.

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M&M wrote:
> Since I came back here 12 years ago, I haven't seen
> a mosquito. They still employ ground vehicle foggers, but the fog they
> emit is not noticable inside the house. Also they only fog intermittently,
> perhaps once a week.

They're obviously more high-tech skeeter nerve gas.

That's either good or bad.

Yet another reminder life is too short for bad Q or
plonking too many people.

;-)

Dana

M&M I have been lurking and read a few of your posts. I was starting to
think you were in my area in central florida, but after the mosquito
comment, can't be. I can hardly take it some nights. I hear the fogger every
once in a while but their mixture must be off.

M&M I have been lurking and read a few of your posts. I was starting to
think you were in my area in central florida, but after the mosquito
comment, can't be. I can hardly take it some nights. I hear the fogger every
once in a while but their mixture must be off.

On 12-Aug-2004, "NJ Brown" > wrote:

> M&M I have been lurking and read a few of your posts. I was starting to
> think you were in my area in central florida, but after the mosquito
> comment, can't be. I can hardly take it some nights. I hear the fogger every
> once in a while but their mixture must be off.

I'm in Tampa. I haven't even seen a mosquito here in the ten years we've
been here. Back in '68, they were prevalent and they flew the mosquito
bomber down the peninsula ever evening. Now I only detect the local
pickup mounted fogger every once in a while and its output is not
offensive like the old stuff was. I don't know what the difference is. We
have a lot of low standing water around here, but there is no mosquito
problem that I know of. Go figure.
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On 12-Aug-2004, "NJ Brown" > wrote:

> M&M I have been lurking and read a few of your posts. I was starting to
> think you were in my area in central florida, but after the mosquito
> comment, can't be. I can hardly take it some nights. I hear the fogger every
> once in a while but their mixture must be off.

I'm in Tampa. I haven't even seen a mosquito here in the ten years we've
been here. Back in '68, they were prevalent and they flew the mosquito
bomber down the peninsula ever evening. Now I only detect the local
pickup mounted fogger every once in a while and its output is not
offensive like the old stuff was. I don't know what the difference is. We
have a lot of low standing water around here, but there is no mosquito
problem that I know of. Go figure.
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