Just had to take advantage of those marvelous prices on FoodSaver
rolls/bags at Wally World. Unfortunately, there were no four packs
or even two packs. There were 8" and 11" rolls available in singles
(18 feet) for $9.97. The B & D label was somewhat better with a two
pack (same length) for $13.84. The B & D is hands down better deal
at about 16 !/2 cents per.

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Brick wrote:
> Just had to take advantage of those marvelous prices on FoodSaver
> rolls/bags at Wally World. Unfortunately, there were no four packs
> or even two packs. There were 8" and 11" rolls available in singles
> (18 feet) for $9.97. The B & D label was somewhat better with a two
> pack (same length) for $13.84. The B & D is hands down better deal
> at about 16 !/2 cents per.
>
> Brick (Keep the shiny side up)
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Brick

About $10 per roll is typical of foodsaver, the only time I've seen 3
rolls for $20 was at a store where they were doing a promotion. The B&D
bags are ok, just more difficult to wash out due to the two flaps that
line up on each side of the insides of the bags. Either way, the prices
for both are way too high a price IMO.

I'm seriously thinking of switching over to a sinbo type sealer from
what I've heard here. I never boil the bags and the idea of being able
to seal any plastic bag is appealing. Especilly considering the cost
savings. Food Saver is laughing all the way to the bank. They probably
paid about $1.00 per roll and resale for $10.

For those who have a Sinbo, can you "not" use the vacuum, just seal as,
in an opened bag of chips so they don't get crushed?

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On 31-Jan-2005, Piedmont > wrote:

> > Brick (Keep the shiny side up)

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>
> I'm seriously thinking of switching over to a sinbo type sealer from
> what I've heard here. I never boil the bags and the idea of being able
> to seal any plastic bag is appealing. Especilly considering the cost
> savings. Food Saver is laughing all the way to the bank. They probably
> paid about $1.00 per roll and resale for $10.
>
> For those who have a Sinbo, can you "not" use the vacuum, just seal as,
> in an opened bag of chips so they don't get crushed?
>
> --
> Mike Willsey (Piedmont)

1. 3 Mil mylar bags for the Sinbo are boilable just as well as the Foodsaver
bags.

2. I just now resealed a Lay's Potatochip Bag with my Sinbo. The Sinbo will
seal any bag that 'can' be heat sealed.

3. You can pull a vacuum on Ziplocs if you so desire and they will heat
seal.
But, they don't hold vacuum for me. (You could vacuum pack potato chips
too, but you'd crush the hell out of them.)

4. I use a lot of Glad Ziplocs. You can boil them too. I don't buy the
cheapest
Ziplocs anymore. The price savings are not enough to offset their inferior
performance.

5. I often use a ziploc to prefreeze a product before vac packing. If you
get
a little bit creative, you can freeze an item into about any shape you like.

Various plastic freezer containers can be used as a mold for prefreezing.
My requirements are easy to meet as I need only about two cups worth
in each bag. Various baking containers will provide larger sizes for those
with more mouths to feed. Prefreezing does not require that you use any
bag at all. I like rectangular shapes, but there is no reason that you can't
use round butter containers for this purpose.

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In article >,
Piedmont > wrote:

> Brick wrote:
> > Just had to take advantage of those marvelous prices on FoodSaver
> > rolls/bags at Wally World. Unfortunately, there were no four packs
> > or even two packs. There were 8" and 11" rolls available in singles
> > (18 feet) for $9.97. The B & D label was somewhat better with a two
> > pack (same length) for $13.84. The B & D is hands down better deal
> > at about 16 !/2 cents per.
> >
> > Brick (Keep the shiny side up)
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> Brick
>
> About $10 per roll is typical of foodsaver, the only time I've seen 3
> rolls for $20 was at a store where they were doing a promotion. The B&D
> bags are ok, just more difficult to wash out due to the two flaps that
> line up on each side of the insides of the bags. Either way, the prices
> for both are way too high a price IMO.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of switching over to a sinbo type sealer from
> what I've heard here. I never boil the bags and the idea of being able
> to seal any plastic bag is appealing. Especilly considering the cost
> savings. Food Saver is laughing all the way to the bank. They probably
> paid about $1.00 per roll and resale for $10.
>
>Everybody stop buying Foodsaver bags for a few months, and then you
will see the price drop.
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These were the prices from Sorbent Systems before they had
to stop selling the product without a license from the patent
holder (FoodSaver). Sorbent was the actual manufacturer of the
bags and probably still is.

P/N Description Quantity Price
RL80FS01 8"x20' 1 $7.60
RL80FS08 8"x20' (8 pack) 1 $44.50
RL115FS01 11.5"x20' 1 $10.80
RL115FS08 11.5"x20' (8 pack) 1 $58.80

And this was their distributor pricing;

DISTRIBUTOR PRICING
Are you a packaging product distributor?

P/N Description Quantity Price
RL80FS36CS 8"x20' (36/case) 1 $183.60
RL115FS36CS 11.5"x20' (36/case) 1 $196.20
You must provide information on other product lines carried.
NOTE: S+H charges may be adjusted upword slightly ($3.50 - 8.00/max)

That's not to say that Wal-Mart with their vast buying power doesn't get
a better price then that. Still, $39 and change for 8 rolls sounds like a
fluke, even for
Wally World. Remember that the FoodSaver uses a four ply bag. It's
bound to be more expensive then a one ply bag for the Sinbo.

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Brick wrote:
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> That's not to say that Wal-Mart with their vast buying power doesn't get
> a better price then that. Still, $39 and change for 8 rolls sounds like a
> fluke, even for
> Wally World. Remember that the FoodSaver uses a four ply bag. It's
> bound to be more expensive then a one ply bag for the Sinbo.
>
> Brick (Keep the shiny side up)

I was in plastics for 20 years,and familiar with the blown film
extrusion techniques used in bag production. It's been awhile but the
plastics resin used in the manufacture process could run from $0.50 to
$1.25 per pound.

Weigh up a roll and see what the mark up is. The process is basically
automated once the extrudant is run up through the tower and the take
off speeds are set.It looks like a long tube or ballon going up a 50
foot cooling tower.

The material for the bags and rolls could also be extruded on a film
extruder. Then slit to size and the edges sealed. Two links below show
the process.

http://www.bpf.co.uk/bpfindustry/pro...blown_film.cfm

http://www.argotecinc.com/home.htm

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"Piedmont" > wrote in message
...
> Brick wrote:
> snip
>> Rememberr that the FoodSaver uses a four ply bag. It's
> > bound to be more expensive then a one ply bag for the Sinbo.
> >
>
> The material for the bags and rolls could also be extruded on a film
> extruder. Then slit to size and the edges sealed. Two links below show
> the process.
>
> http://www.bpf.co.uk/bpfindustry/pro...blown_film.cfm
>
> http://www.argotecinc.com/home.htm
>
> --
> Mike Willsey (Piedmont)
> "The Practical Bar-B-Q'r!"
=================================================
Brick and Mike... interesting info about plastic bags for storing leftovers.
(especially the technical stuff that Mike provided...) However, I'm saving
tons of money because I seem to have no leftovers. Doggone folks gobble up
everything I cook for them... even including those briskets that I "foil"
before finishing them off in the Q. (smile) Hope you all do not mind some
bragging, OK? Oh yes, before I forget it... I have an old Seal-A-Meal
gadget in the pantry that is available for sale to anyone who has leftovers
they want to stick into plastic bags... (smile again)

Best to all,
Gus Kilthau, Houston, Texas