Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

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> But why would you travel to NYC and go for Barbecue? It'd be like me
> traveling to the carolinas or Texas for Italian/Chinese/other ethnic
> food.
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I enjoy BBQ foods. I also enjoy tasting different foods in different places.
NY is full of different foods Chinese, Thai, Mex (most owned by Chinese
now), Ethiopian... BBQ is fairly new to NY, so I want to give them a try.
With the level of competition and critics there, they are likely to do what
they do well or quickly be eliminated. New Yorkers may often be seen as
thinking of themselves as being better than the rest of us, but I tend to
think that they are just perfectionists.

Florida doesn't realy have it's own BBQ as Texas, Tenn, Carolinas, but we've
kinda picked and choosed from others to make it ours.NY is hopefully not
only the melting pot of the word, but I'm hoping for our own country as
well. Thanks for the links


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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:14:28 -0500, bk > wrote:

> traveling to the carolinas or Texas for Italian/Chinese/other ethnic
>> food.


Well, I do not know what you mean by "other ethnic food", but Texas is
full of it if you look around. If you mean Mexican Texas is a great place
(doh!). Other European kitchens are also well represented like German and
Czech. Any metropol like NYC, San Francisco and even Dallas/Houston will
have great offerings from almost every major cuisines.

Coming to Texas from Europe has opend my eyes to the fact that the state
has much more to offer than Q, Fajitas and 'Ritas.

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Sorry... didn't mean to mess with Texas..

I do travel to Austin quite bit and have been to Houston, Dallas and
San Antonio several times. Of course the Mexican is excellent! And
the more traditional European kitchens are well represented (I find a
lot of excellent German restraunts in the upper midwest as well). I
guess what I was referring to was...

Japanese (Sushi, Katsu, Tempura, Sabo Sabo...)
Korean
Thai/Vietnamese
Indian
Carribean, South American
Russian
Kosher (NY Deli's)
Middle Eastern
Ethiopian

Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while
find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses
(Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool
River, Old San Francisco...)?

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:59:51 -0500, eelhc > wrote:

> Sorry... didn't mean to mess with Texas..


I'm an imported Texan so I I can take it!

> I do travel to Austin quite bit and have been to Houston, Dallas and
> San Antonio several times. Of course the Mexican is excellent! And
> the more traditional European kitchens are well represented (I find a
> lot of excellent German restraunts in the upper midwest as well). I
> guess what I was referring to was...
> Japanese (Sushi, Katsu, Tempura, Sabo Sabo...)
> Korean
> Thai/Vietnamese
> Indian
> Carribean, South American
> Russian
> Kosher (NY Deli's)
> Middle Eastern
> Ethiopian


I have to admit that I haven't had great Ethiopian in Texas. On the other
hand, Ethiopian wasn't so great in Ethiopia either (yes, i've been
there!). And you're probably right, those kitchens are probably better
represented in cities that have had a more differentiated immigration.

> Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while
> find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses
> (Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool
> River, Old San Francisco...)?


Yes, wrong places. For steak in Austin you need to go to Houston's Steak
House. Phenomenal! However, the best steak I have ever gotten in Texas is
at Kloesel's Steak House in Moulton (tiny little town 10 miles south of
I10, 95 miles east of SA). And close by is Shiner, TX, home of one of my
favorite beers.

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eelhc wrote:
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> Sorry... didn't mean to mess with Texas..
>
> I do travel to Austin quite bit and have been to Houston, Dallas and
> San Antonio several times. Of course the Mexican is excellent! And
> the more traditional European kitchens are well represented (I find a
> lot of excellent German restraunts in the upper midwest as well). I
> guess what I was referring to was...
>
> Japanese (Sushi, Katsu, Tempura, Sabo Sabo...)
> Korean
> Thai/Vietnamese
> Indian
> Carribean, South American
> Russian
> Kosher (NY Deli's)
> Middle Eastern
> Ethiopian
>
> Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while
> find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses
> (Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool
> River, Old San Francisco...)?


Being relatively new to TX I haven't found everything yet, but my review
of the greater Dallas area I have found:

Japanese (several including a surprisingly good place in a mall food
court in Sherman)

Korean/Thai/Vietnamese, seen a number of places although I haven't tried
them yet. The "Pei Wei Asian Diner" offshoot of P. F. Chang's has a
pretty broad menu which includes Japanese and Korean type items.

Indian, seen several, been to Clay Pit in Addison several times.

Caribbean, haven't found any restaurants to visit yet, but did find a
legitimate jerk chicken at the state fair so it's got to be around here
somewhere. Central Market carries the Walkerswood products so I stock up
on jerk seasoning there.

Haven't found a Russian or NY Kosher Deli place yet.

Middle Eastern, I'd say Indian qualifies in this area. I also found an
excellent Turkish place (Cafe Istanbul).

No Ethiopian so far, didn't find any in CT where I was previously
either. The only one I've been to was in NYC and it was excellent.

Addison, being the restaurant mecca of the US has many options including
a Fondue place (Melting Pot), a couple Brazilian type places (Fogo de
Chao and Texas de Brazil), a good Mediterranean place (Sambuca),
"Mongolian BBQ" (Genghis Grill) and many more I haven't tried yet.
Addison even has the distinction of a Hooters with about the worst wings
I've ever had (the burger was ok though).

Pete C.


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eelhc > wrote:

> Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while
> find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses
> (Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool
> River, Old San Francisco...)?




um ... ya. Wrong places, IMHO. My favorite is Austin Land & Cattle, on 12th and
Lamar. I'm under impression most people like Sullivans (wharehouse district)
better ..... but I like Austin Land & Cattle.
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> My favorite is Austin Land & Cattle, on 12th and Lamar.



And, guilty pleasure, Sonny Cobb's


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