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Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that
Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really isn't hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? |
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Not exactly new but check out Daisy May's (more of a take out place):
http://www.gothamist.com/archives/20...ys_bbq_usa.php Too bad you missed the Big Apple BBQ Block party (last Month) http://www.gothamist.com/archives/20...lock_party.php But why would you travel to NYC and go for Barbecue? It'd be like me traveling to the carolinas or Texas for Italian/Chinese/other ethnic food. |
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![]() > But why would you travel to NYC and go for Barbecue? It'd be like me > traveling to the carolinas or Texas for Italian/Chinese/other ethnic > food. > I enjoy BBQ foods. I also enjoy tasting different foods in different places. NY is full of different foods Chinese, Thai, Mex (most owned by Chinese now), Ethiopian... BBQ is fairly new to NY, so I want to give them a try. With the level of competition and critics there, they are likely to do what they do well or quickly be eliminated. New Yorkers may often be seen as thinking of themselves as being better than the rest of us, but I tend to think that they are just perfectionists. Florida doesn't realy have it's own BBQ as Texas, Tenn, Carolinas, but we've kinda picked and choosed from others to make it ours.NY is hopefully not only the melting pot of the word, but I'm hoping for our own country as well. Thanks for the links |
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:14:28 -0500, bk > wrote:
> traveling to the carolinas or Texas for Italian/Chinese/other ethnic >> food. Well, I do not know what you mean by "other ethnic food", but Texas is full of it if you look around. If you mean Mexican Texas is a great place (doh!). Other European kitchens are also well represented like German and Czech. Any metropol like NYC, San Francisco and even Dallas/Houston will have great offerings from almost every major cuisines. Coming to Texas from Europe has opend my eyes to the fact that the state has much more to offer than Q, Fajitas and 'Ritas. -- //ceed ©¿©¬ |
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![]() "bk" > wrote in message > Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that > Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really isn't > hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? Do as you please, but NYC is the last place I'd consider BBQ. There are thousands of good restaurants with foods that you just don't find elsewhere. I'd take advantage of it. You probably make better bbq in your backyard, so try Cuban, or oriental, or whatever that you don't have at home. Be sure to get a good pastrami sandwich on good rye bread. That is a treat. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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m: > Do as you please, but NYC is the last place I'd consider BBQ. There > are thousands of good restaurants with foods that you just don't find > elsewhere. I'd take advantage of it. Amen! If you live in NY, then by all means enjoy NY BBQ. But visiting NYC and looking for BBQ (especially if you live in FLA and have real BBQ much closer) would be like going to Memphis and searching out great kosher delis or sushi. While Memphis has both (and I'm sure there's good BBQ in NYC), why not spend your time searching out the things that are a real specialty of the city you're visiting? |
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![]() "bk" > wrote in message hlink.net... > Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that > Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really isn't > hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? > Although it isn't BBQ, I have to recommend a quick stop at Papaya King for a dog and a smoothie... Saczerac (sp?) in the village has some nice spicy items on their menu as well. --- J Lo Lingerie PLUS 50% off Designer Thongs www.cafepress.com/dwacon |
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![]() On 12-Jul-2005, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote: > "bk" > wrote in message > > > Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that > > Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really > > isn't > > hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? > > Do as you please, but NYC is the last place I'd consider BBQ. There are > thousands of good restaurants with foods that you just don't find > elsewhere. > I'd take advantage of it. You probably make better bbq in your backyard, > so > try Cuban, or oriental, or whatever that you don't have at home. Be sure > > to get a good pastrami sandwich on good rye bread. That is a treat. > -- > Ed > http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ Too right Ed. Probably because of the extreme competition, even the food from sidewalk carts is outstanding. Mediocre just doesn't survive in NYC. -- The Brick said that (Don't bother to agree with me, I have already changed my mind.) ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I go to Virgil's for lunch almost every day. They have very good stuff.
(44th and Bdway). Daisy May is also good. They have a cart on 51st and 6th Ave. (if you go to their place at 11th Ave, be wary of the racial diversity in the area) BBQ is HOT in NYC right now and you can't say that it's all bad. The main problem is that to have a real wood smoker you need an expensive scrubber or be lucky enough to inherit an existing pit somewhere in Queens. To me, this is total bullshit. After breathing bus/truck fumes all day in Times Square, I would find wood smoke quite refreshing! Enjoy NYC! |
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![]() Be sure > to get a good pastrami sandwich on good rye bread. That is a treat. > -- > Ed > http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ > Well I never go to NY without a stop at Katz's Deli. Best I've ever had and I always get my own even though one is easily enough for two. But I just have to give the Q a try. |
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Sorry... didn't mean to mess with Texas..
![]() I do travel to Austin quite bit and have been to Houston, Dallas and San Antonio several times. Of course the Mexican is excellent! And the more traditional European kitchens are well represented (I find a lot of excellent German restraunts in the upper midwest as well). I guess what I was referring to was... Japanese (Sushi, Katsu, Tempura, Sabo Sabo...) Korean Thai/Vietnamese Indian Carribean, South American Russian Kosher (NY Deli's) Middle Eastern Ethiopian Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses (Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool River, Old San Francisco...)? |
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:59:51 -0500, eelhc > wrote:
> Sorry... didn't mean to mess with Texas.. I'm an imported Texan so I I can take it! ![]() > I do travel to Austin quite bit and have been to Houston, Dallas and > San Antonio several times. Of course the Mexican is excellent! And > the more traditional European kitchens are well represented (I find a > lot of excellent German restraunts in the upper midwest as well). I > guess what I was referring to was... > Japanese (Sushi, Katsu, Tempura, Sabo Sabo...) > Korean > Thai/Vietnamese > Indian > Carribean, South American > Russian > Kosher (NY Deli's) > Middle Eastern > Ethiopian I have to admit that I haven't had great Ethiopian in Texas. On the other hand, Ethiopian wasn't so great in Ethiopia either (yes, i've been there!). And you're probably right, those kitchens are probably better represented in cities that have had a more differentiated immigration. > Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while > find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses > (Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool > River, Old San Francisco...)? Yes, wrong places. For steak in Austin you need to go to Houston's Steak House. Phenomenal! However, the best steak I have ever gotten in Texas is at Kloesel's Steak House in Moulton (tiny little town 10 miles south of I10, 95 miles east of SA). And close by is Shiner, TX, home of one of my favorite beers. -- //ceed ©¿©¬ |
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eelhc wrote:
> > Sorry... didn't mean to mess with Texas.. ![]() > > I do travel to Austin quite bit and have been to Houston, Dallas and > San Antonio several times. Of course the Mexican is excellent! And > the more traditional European kitchens are well represented (I find a > lot of excellent German restraunts in the upper midwest as well). I > guess what I was referring to was... > > Japanese (Sushi, Katsu, Tempura, Sabo Sabo...) > Korean > Thai/Vietnamese > Indian > Carribean, South American > Russian > Kosher (NY Deli's) > Middle Eastern > Ethiopian > > Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while > find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses > (Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool > River, Old San Francisco...)? Being relatively new to TX I haven't found everything yet, but my review of the greater Dallas area I have found: Japanese (several including a surprisingly good place in a mall food court in Sherman) Korean/Thai/Vietnamese, seen a number of places although I haven't tried them yet. The "Pei Wei Asian Diner" offshoot of P. F. Chang's has a pretty broad menu which includes Japanese and Korean type items. Indian, seen several, been to Clay Pit in Addison several times. Caribbean, haven't found any restaurants to visit yet, but did find a legitimate jerk chicken at the state fair so it's got to be around here somewhere. Central Market carries the Walkerswood products so I stock up on jerk seasoning there. Haven't found a Russian or NY Kosher Deli place yet. Middle Eastern, I'd say Indian qualifies in this area. I also found an excellent Turkish place (Cafe Istanbul). No Ethiopian so far, didn't find any in CT where I was previously either. The only one I've been to was in NYC and it was excellent. Addison, being the restaurant mecca of the US has many options including a Fondue place (Melting Pot), a couple Brazilian type places (Fogo de Chao and Texas de Brazil), a good Mediterranean place (Sambuca), "Mongolian BBQ" (Genghis Grill) and many more I haven't tried yet. Addison even has the distinction of a Hooters with about the worst wings I've ever had (the burger was ok though). Pete C. |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "bk" > wrote in message > > > Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that > > Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really isn't > > hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? > > Do as you please, but NYC is the last place I'd consider BBQ. There are > thousands of good restaurants with foods that you just don't find elsewhere. > I'd take advantage of it. You probably make better bbq in your backyard, so > try Cuban, or oriental, or whatever that you don't have at home. Be sure > to get a good pastrami sandwich on good rye bread. That is a treat. > -- > Ed > http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ Since you're in CT I assume you've found Rein's Deli in Vernon? Pete C. (Used to go there for lunch frequently from work in Hartford) |
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![]() "Pete C." > wrote in message > > Since you're in CT I assume you've found Rein's Deli in Vernon? > > Pete C. > > (Used to go there for lunch frequently from work in Hartford) I've never been in it, but I've eaten their food often. My daughter was working in Manchester and she'd sometimes stop on the way home and pick up sandwiches. Thanks for the reminder. I've not had any since she moved. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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eelhc > wrote:
> Now at the risk of offendin some Texans... I will say that I while > find the Steak to be good... but I still prefer the NYC steakhouses > (Luger's, Old Homestead...). Am I going to the wrong places (Cool > River, Old San Francisco...)? um ... ya. Wrong places, IMHO. My favorite is Austin Land & Cattle, on 12th and Lamar. I'm under impression most people like Sullivans (wharehouse district) better ..... but I like Austin Land & Cattle. -- I used to think government was a necessary evil. I'm not so sure about the necessary part anymore. |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > My favorite is Austin Land & Cattle, on 12th and Lamar. And, guilty pleasure, Sonny Cobb's -- J Lo Lingerie *plus* 50% off Thongs www.cafepress.com/dwacon |
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![]() "roger" > wrote > Daisy May is also good. They have a cart on 51st and 6th Ave. (if you > go to their place at 11th Ave, be wary of the racial diversity in the > area) What are you trying to say here? Is racial diversity a bad thing, or are you just not partial to some of the races that partake at that particular location? Seems to me, someone in NYC should be pretty tolerant of diversity. TFM® |
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![]() "TFM®" > wrote in message ... > > "roger" > wrote > > > Daisy May is also good. They have a cart on 51st and 6th Ave. (if you > > go to their place at 11th Ave, be wary of the racial diversity in the > > area) > > > > What are you trying to say here? > > Is racial diversity a bad thing, or are you just not partial to some of the > races that partake at that particular location? > > Seems to me, someone in NYC should be pretty tolerant of diversity. > > > TFM® > > Honey, you're stirring up trouble again. :~) kili |
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![]() On 15-Jul-2005, "kilikini" > wrote: > "TFM®" > wrote in message > ... > > > > "roger" > wrote > > > > > Daisy May is also good. They have a cart on 51st and 6th Ave. (if you > > > go to their place at 11th Ave, be wary of the racial diversity in the > > > area) > > > > > > > > What are you trying to say here? > > > > Is racial diversity a bad thing, or are you just not partial to some of > the > > races that partake at that particular location? > > > > Seems to me, someone in NYC should be pretty tolerant of diversity. > > > > > > TFM® > > > > > > Honey, you're stirring up trouble again. :~) > > kili What the OP was trying to politely say, is that certain areas of NYC can be extremely hazardous to your health if you don't belong there. It doesn't matter whether it's right or wrong or whether you like it or not. That's the way it is and has been for a very long time. -- The Brick said that (Don't bother to agree with me, I have already changed my mind.) ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I lived in Brooklyn 25 years (thank you). When my apartment building
started to get "diverse", the elevator all of a sudden became a rest room, the walls were covered with graffiti and people were asked to provide their wallets to strangers they met in the halls. When my first kid was born, I escaped to New Jersey. My town is one of those horrible "lilly white" places you read about. We don't lock our doors, we respect our neighbors, we don't let our kids join gangs or listen to 50 cent. Getting back to NYC, the locals know where the safe areas are (although plenty get mugged on Park Avenue too). Tourists sometimes stray into wrong areas, so telling them to be on alert has nothing to do with being racist. Like in any other town, a white person in a black area can get in trouble just as much as a black in an all white neighborhood. I detest all of these ACLU types who frown upon lack of "minority diversity". Take the D train to 205th street at midnight or else shut the f- up. Cheers RT |
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I've gotten off 84 and looked for it, but couldn't find Rein's at the
exit. How do you get there??? thanks in advance. |
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"Brick" > wrote:
> [ . . . ] > What the OP was trying to politely say, is that certain areas of NYC > can be extremely hazardous to your health if you don't belong there. > It doesn't matter whether it's right or wrong or whether you like it or > not. That's the way it is and has been for a very long time. Ok, I'm a Sichy kid from da North Bronx. Back in the late 50's, early 60's, I hung a lot in Harlem & Spanish Harlem, no problemo. Even then, I avoided the South Bronx, except for occasional treks to Fox St. -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled War on Terror Veterans and their families: http://saluteheroes.org/ & http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! |
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bk wrote:
> Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that > Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really > isn't > hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? R.U.B. It's Paul Kirk's new place. Open less 6 months IIRC. BOB |
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Marshall wrote:
> > I've gotten off 84 and looked for it, but couldn't find Rein's at the > exit. How do you get there??? thanks in advance. North side of Rt 30 (435 Hartford Tpke.) set back in the strip mall, relatively small listing on the sign board at car level by the street. >From Westbound 84, exit 65 will drop you at a light on Rt 30 where the plaza with Rein's will be across the street and just to the right a little bit. >From Eastbound 84, exit 64 has a split to the right that will drop you on Rt 30 heading east towards Rein's which will be on the left in about a 1/2 mile. Pete C. |
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Marshall wrote:
> > I've gotten off 84 and looked for it, but couldn't find Rein's at the > exit. How do you get there??? thanks in advance. Map on A.B.F. Pete C. |
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bk wrote:
> Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that > Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really isn't > hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? > > If you're going to the Big Apple, may I suggest that you skip the BBQ and instead go to Katz's on Houston St. for a pastrami sandwich - you can get BBQ anywhere, but ... You want a New York experience, find what's known as an appetizer store and get some bagels, pickled herring, smoked sable, lox, sturgeon and a copy of the Times. -- ================================================== ============= Regards Louis Cohen "Yes, yes, I will desalinate you, you grande morue!" Émile Zola, Assommoir 1877 |
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![]() Louis Cohen wrote: > bk wrote: > >> Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that >> Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really >> isn't hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? >> > If you're going to the Big Apple, may I suggest that you skip the BBQ > and instead go to Katz's on Houston St. for a pastrami sandwich - you > can get BBQ anywhere, but ... > > You want a New York experience, find what's known as an appetizer store > and get some bagels, pickled herring, smoked sable, lox, sturgeon and a > copy of the Times. The Times? That would be to wrap the fish in, right? -- Stan |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:13:23 -0400, "Stan (the Man)"
> wrote: > > >Louis Cohen wrote: >> bk wrote: >> You want a New York experience, find what's known as an appetizer store >> and get some bagels, pickled herring, smoked sable, lox, sturgeon and a >> copy of the Times. > >The Times? That would be to wrap the fish in, right? No - for the crossword puzzle, of course, you Philistine ;0) Harry |
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![]() Harry Demidavicius wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:13:23 -0400, "Stan (the Man)" > > wrote: > > >> >>Louis Cohen wrote: >> >>>bk wrote: > > >>>You want a New York experience, find what's known as an appetizer store >>>and get some bagels, pickled herring, smoked sable, lox, sturgeon and a >>>copy of the Times. >> >>The Times? That would be to wrap the fish in, right? > > > No - for the crossword puzzle, of course, you Philistine ;0) My faith is restored. -- Stan |
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Here's a suggestion that I didn't think of... Although it's not
technically BBQ. How about Kalbi, Bulgoki and Sam-Gyup-Sal (Three Fat Layer Pork... less known but awesome!) at a Korean place Although the best korean is in Queens or Fort Lee, NJ. Kang Suh across Macy's on Broadway isn't too bad. And it was the only place in Manhattan that I could recall bringing hot lump right to your table. You just can't go wrong grilling at your own table over Lump! |
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![]() "Stan (the Man)" > wrote in message ... > > > Louis Cohen wrote: >> bk wrote: >> >>> Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that >>> Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really >>> isn't hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? >>> >> If you're going to the Big Apple, may I suggest that you skip the BBQ and >> instead go to Katz's on Houston St. for a pastrami sandwich - you can get >> BBQ anywhere, but ... >> >> You want a New York experience, find what's known as an appetizer store >> and get some bagels, pickled herring, smoked sable, lox, sturgeon and a >> copy of the Times. > > The Times? That would be to wrap the fish in, right? > If you can't read, that'd be a good use for it. Jack |
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![]() "roger" > wrote in message oups.com... >I lived in Brooklyn 25 years (thank you). When my apartment building > started to get "diverse", the elevator all of a sudden became a rest > room, the walls were covered with graffiti and people were asked to > provide their wallets to strangers they met in the halls. > > When my first kid was born, I escaped to New Jersey. My town is one of > those horrible "lilly white" places you read about. We don't lock our > doors, we respect our neighbors, we don't let our kids join gangs or > listen to 50 cent. > > Getting back to NYC, the locals know where the safe areas are (although > plenty get mugged on Park Avenue too). Tourists sometimes stray into > wrong areas, so telling them to be on alert has nothing to do with > being racist. Like in any other town, a white person in a black area > can get in trouble just as much as a black in an all white > neighborhood. > > I detest all of these ACLU types who frown upon lack of "minority > diversity". Take the D train to 205th street at midnight or else shut > the f- up. > > Cheers > RT > > LMAO! You actually claim to be from the city? Jack |
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![]() "bk" > wrote in message hlink.net... > Will be in NY next week. Have been to Blue Smoke and have heard that > Dinosaur has opened in Harem. I've had their hot sauce, which really isn't > hot, but it is tasty. Any reveiws of the new places opening in NY? > Q in the city...You can get good Q almost anywhere these days, why not try something local? My recommendations... Lombardi's (the city = Manhattan) for a real pizza, thin, crisp crust, not that doughy crap. 6 train downtown from Grand Central to Spring St. 2 blocks east. Roosevelt Av in Queens from Woodside to Flushing. Take the 7 train out of Grand Central and start in Woodside and continue through Jackson Hgts and then Main St, Flushing and enjoy a trip that takes you from Ireland to India, Phillipines, Colombia, Peru, Korea and China. You won't be sorry. You can get street food like fire roasted corn and tamales in Jackson Hgts. Frank's in Chelsea for a steak; damn good and not as pricey as Luger's and with a good barroom to boot. A train to 14th, a block or so west and 2 blocks uptown. Astoria for some down home Greek eats - 7 train to Queensboro Plaza, switch to the N or W up to Ditmars Blvd. There's a really good Czech barroom that serves good eats right at the bar too. I'll try to remember the name, but like I said, it's a really good barroom. BTW, the good Q in the city is in those neighborhoods where those who hate the NY Times and colored people don't venture to. Jack |
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![]() "roger" > wrote > I detest all of these ACLU types who frown upon lack of "minority > diversity". Take the D train to 205th street at midnight or else shut > the f- up. > > Cheers > RT You can say "****" here. I think....... **** it, I say it all the time. We can dig it. I'm all with you on the line I quoted. TFM® |
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"TFM®" > wrote:
> "roger" > wrote > > > I detest all of these ACLU types who frown upon lack of "minority > > diversity". Take the D train to 205th street at midnight or else shut > > the f- up. > > I took the 'D' train on the IND up to the end of the line at 205th St. during the late 50's at midnight and later, Mon thru Fri. Never had a problem. -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled War on Terror Veterans and their families: http://saluteheroes.org/ & http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! |
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I believe Paul Kirk's new restaurant is open now. Visit his web site:
http://www.baron-of-bbq.com/ I understand it was recently written up in the New York Papers. Location: 208 West 23rd St./ 7th & 8th Aves. New York, NY 10011 Telephone: 212-524-4300 http://www.rubbbq.net/> http://www.rubbbq.net -- Henry - "Comments from a Pilgrim in the QUE" For "Some" of my thoughts, which are updated daily, visit: http://mydatastor.blogspot.com/ If you need some inspiration, you might look he http://maplewood-church-of-christ.org/ |
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