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I've been having success with my WSM slow smoking pork ribs, and would
like to try a beef roast. My store has a good sale on bottom round roast. Average size is 4-5 pounds. Does it make good BBQ? |
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Abe wrote:
> I've been having success with my WSM slow smoking pork ribs, and would > like to try a beef roast. > > My store has a good sale on bottom round roast. Average size is 4-5 > pounds. > > Does it make good BBQ? It's not something I'd serve as a main dish to company, put it that way. It's good in cold roast beef sandwiches though. I'd make medium rare roast beef out of it. Season it and brown it well on all sides. Smoke it at 250 F until no higher than 135 F internal temp. Slice it thinly as possible against the grain. I usually don't serve it warm. I refrigerate it before slicing. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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![]() "Reg" > wrote in message > It's not something I'd serve as a main dish to company, put it > that way. It's good in cold roast beef sandwiches though. > I'd make medium rare roast beef out of it. > > Season it and brown it well on all sides. Smoke it at 250 F > until no higher than 135 F internal temp. Slice it thinly > as possible against the grain. > > I usually don't serve it warm. I refrigerate it before > slicing. Why not, sliced thin it can be a tasty cut of beef. Sure, not as tender as rib eye, or as much like bbq brisket, but it is good for what it is. I agree, 130 to 135 is plenty of temperature. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ - |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> Why not, sliced thin it can be a tasty cut of beef. Sure, not as tender as > rib eye, or as much like bbq brisket, but it is good for what it is. I > agree, 130 to 135 is plenty of temperature. Why not? I guess the answer is that I have a different standard for what I serve to guests than what I eat myself every day. There's quite a spectrum of quality between bottom round and rib eye, and between the two there's a minimum that I'd serve to guests. It's not about trying to impress. My own experience is that the better food tastes even better when shared. I'd only put bottom round in my own lunches, for instance. If guests were coming over I'd serve top round at the very least. No need for rib eye all the time to be sure, but once in a while it's required to feed my addiction, and I prefer serving it on big platters to a house full of people. All this is completely arbitrary, of course. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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Abe wrote:
> Well, I guess the question's moot, because I ended up buying a > smallish whole brisket (6 lb). It's got about 3 more hours to go > before I wrap it up and let it rest. I'm Smoking it with Cherry and my > favorite rub. > > Thanks for the input guys. What about the beer? You forgot to mention what kind of beer you're drinking. It helps make the brisket come out just right, especially on a Sunday. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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![]() Abe wrote: > I've been having success with my WSM slow smoking pork ribs, and would > like to try a beef roast. > > My store has a good sale on bottom round roast. Average size is 4-5 > pounds. > > Does it make good BBQ? One of the bigger BBQ places here in the Seattle area uses bottom round flats primarily for their BBQ beef. They don't use brisket at all. They slice it real thin and serve it on buns with sauce. Its not bad. -- The High Honorable Reverend Fosco Gamgee Wooaaa.... hahaa... Whitfurrows and his 6" stoner --Weddings performed for a nominal fee. --Beer or magic shrooms accepted in lieu of cash payment ROFL! |
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>> Well, I guess the question's moot, because I ended up buying a
>> smallish whole brisket (6 lb). It's got about 3 more hours to go >> before I wrap it up and let it rest. I'm Smoking it with Cherry and my >> favorite rub. >> >> Thanks for the input guys. > >What about the beer? You forgot to mention what kind of beer >you're drinking. It helps make the brisket come out just right, >especially on a Sunday. I know this sounds kind of *** (no offense intended) but I'm drinking a fine medium dry sherry. It's not hot enough today in Seattle for beer. I need it be really hot outside to really get a thirst for beer. |
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>One of the bigger BBQ places here in the Seattle area uses bottom round
>flats primarily for their BBQ beef. They don't use brisket at all. They >slice it real thin and serve it on buns with sauce. Its not bad. I'm in Kirkland, and know Seattle well. Which place are you talking about? Maybe I know it. Also, I've only seen bottom round roasts that are pretty, well, kinda round (except for the flat fat cap side). I've never seen a bottom round flat. Sounds interesting. |
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>>What about the beer? You forgot to mention what kind of beer
>>you're drinking. It helps make the brisket come out just right, >>especially on a Sunday. >I know this sounds kind of *** (no offense intended) but I'm drinking >a fine medium dry sherry. It's not hot enough today in Seattle for >beer. I need it be really hot outside to really get a thirst for beer. Forgot to say that if I was drinking beer, it would be Windermere HefeWeizen - ice cold. Yum. |
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>Why not, sliced thin it can be a tasty cut of beef. Sure, not as tender as
>rib eye, or as much like bbq brisket, but it is good for what it is. I >agree, 130 to 135 is plenty of temperature. I think a lightly BBQ'd bottom round sliced thin for cold cut sandwiches would be awesome. One of these days I'll certainly try it. |
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![]() "Reg" > wrote in message ... > Abe wrote: > >> I've been having success with my WSM slow smoking pork ribs, and would >> like to try a beef roast. >> >> My store has a good sale on bottom round roast. Average size is 4-5 >> pounds. >> >> Does it make good BBQ? > > It's not something I'd serve as a main dish to company, put it > that way. It's good in cold roast beef sandwiches though. > I'd make medium rare roast beef out of it. > > Season it and brown it well on all sides. Smoke it at 250 F > until no higher than 135 F internal temp. Slice it thinly > as possible against the grain. > > I usually don't serve it warm. I refrigerate it before > slicing. > > -- > Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com > Bottom round is too tough and fatty to cook rare, and it's dry when cooked completely. It's loaded with fat. You better take a double dose of your statin on that day. For that reason it's best browned, and slowly braised in the oven. The French lard bottom round and braise it long and slow to make the "daube of larded bottom round" Marcel Proust wrote about and longed for it when he couldn't have it frequently. It can be browned on the grill, but then you lose the additional flavor from deglazing the pan. The tri tip roast is a reasonable cut for browning and slow roasting on the grill to medium rare. Even that's a bit fatty when roasted rare. Kent |
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Abe wrote:
> I know this sounds kind of *** (no offense intended) but I'm drinking > a fine medium dry sherry. It's not hot enough today in Seattle for > beer. I need it be really hot outside to really get a thirst for beer. That's funny. I just filled up my cabinet with different kinds of sherry. I use tons of it. I think I've used it for one thing or another every day for the last month. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:01:54 -0700, Abe > wrote:
>>I know this sounds kind of *** (no offense intended) but I'm drinking >>a fine medium dry sherry. It's not hot enough today in Seattle for >>beer. I need it be really hot outside to really get a thirst for beer. >Forgot to say that if I was drinking beer, it would be Windermere >HefeWeizen - ice cold. Yum. Hm. I'm not a beer guy, but I sort of keep up with microbrews. Haven't heard of Windermere as a brew. (I'm in SW Everett, btw--so not too far from Scuttlebutt. Used to live in the Fremont so am fond of Red Hook) -- -denny- "I don't like it when a whole state starts acting like a marital aid." "John R. Campbell" in a Usenet post. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:45:08 -0700, Abe > wrote:
>>One of the bigger BBQ places here in the Seattle area uses bottom round >>flats primarily for their BBQ beef. They don't use brisket at all. They >>slice it real thin and serve it on buns with sauce. Its not bad. >I'm in Kirkland, and know Seattle well. Which place are you talking >about? Maybe I know it. Also, I've only seen bottom round roasts that >are pretty, well, kinda round (except for the flat fat cap side). I've >never seen a bottom round flat. Sounds interesting. You beat me to the question, Abe. -- -denny- "I don't like it when a whole state starts acting like a marital aid." "John R. Campbell" in a Usenet post. |
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![]() Abe wrote: >> One of the bigger BBQ places here in the Seattle area uses bottom >> round flats primarily for their BBQ beef. They don't use brisket at >> all. They slice it real thin and serve it on buns with sauce. Its >> not bad. > I'm in Kirkland, and know Seattle well. Which place are you talking > about? Maybe I know it. I'm talking about Longhorn in Auburn, Renton, Kent and Pioneer Square. It ain't the best Q but its fairly acceptable and here on the south end thats saying alot.<g> They tend to serve their stuff with too much sauce but if ya ask 'em they'll be nice enough to hold back. I like the ribs. I'll give 'em that. -- The High Honorable Reverend Fosco Gamgee Wooaaa.... hahaa... Whitfurrows and his 6" stoner --Weddings performed for a nominal fee. --Beer or magic shrooms accepted in lieu of cash payment ROFL! Also, I've only seen bottom round roasts that > are pretty, well, kinda round (except for the flat fat cap side). I've > never seen a bottom round flat. Sounds interesting. Well....its a "bottom something flat". The word that comes to mind is round. I talk to alot of the guys at all the restaurants and I know they don't use brisket because I give 'em shit for it. I'm pretty sure bottom round flat is what he said. -- The High Honorable Reverend Fosco Gamgee Wooaaa.... hahaa... Whitfurrows and his 6" stoner --Weddings performed for a nominal fee. --Beer or magic shrooms accepted in lieu of cash payment ROFL! |
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![]() F.G. Whitfurrows wrote: Wrote a fairly reasonable reply but signed it twice. If you guys think I didnt answer the part about the meat just keep scrolling past my sig. and you'll see that I did.<g> Sorry. -- The High Honorable Reverend Fosco Gamgee Wooaaa.... hahaa... Whitfurrows and his 6" stoner --Weddings performed for a nominal fee. --Beer or magic shrooms accepted in lieu of cash payment ROFL! |
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![]() Abe wrote: >> One of the bigger BBQ places here in the Seattle area uses bottom >> round flats primarily for their BBQ beef. They don't use brisket at >> all. They slice it real thin and serve it on buns with sauce. Its >> not bad. > I'm in Kirkland, and know Seattle well. Which place are you talking > about? Maybe I know it. Also, I've only seen bottom round roasts that > are pretty, well, kinda round (except for the flat fat cap side). I've > never seen a bottom round flat. Sounds interesting. This might help. It requires Acrobat, but I imagine you have that. http://www.rdranch.com/uDocs/bvc_bottomrnd.pdf I admit I'm not clear on the bottom round flat thing either. Its funny, but after he told me they didnt use brisket I was so dumbfounded I never thought to look into finding more info on the cut they do use. -- The High Honorable Reverend Fosco Gamgee Wooaaa.... hahaa... Whitfurrows and his 6" stoner --Weddings performed for a nominal fee. --Beer or magic shrooms accepted in lieu of cash payment ROFL! |
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![]() Abe wrote: > >>What about the beer? You forgot to mention what kind of beer > >>you're drinking. It helps make the brisket come out just right, > >>especially on a Sunday. > >I know this sounds kind of *** (no offense intended) but I'm drinking > >a fine medium dry sherry. It's not hot enough today in Seattle for > >beer. I need it be really hot outside to really get a thirst for beer. > Forgot to say that if I was drinking beer, it would be Windermere > HefeWeizen - ice cold. Yum. The best bottled beer I've ever tasted is Bell's Pale Ale, from Michigan. Only a couple of stores in StL carry it, but one is Whole Foods. Their Porter is excellent as well. Samuel Smith's Lagers (both the Pure Brewed and the Organic) are great too. --Bryan |
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