I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.

But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.

Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
lots of pepper?


--
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wrote:
> I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
> But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
> up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> lots of pepper?
>
>
> --
> A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
> --Edward R. Murrow

Yup - buy a $15-20 coffee grinder and use it exclusively for your
pepper (and other spices, if it cleans easily). They're electric -
push the button - grind until it's the coarseness or fineness you like.

N.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:03 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:

> I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.

>Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
>lots of pepper?


The Atlas or the LARGE Perfex will grind some serious pepper. They are
not cheap but they work well. The Atlas is around $60 and the Large
Perfex is about $150.

A coffee grinder will work and a burr coffee mill may work also.
Depends on your budget and how much a *LOT* of pepper is to you.

> schreef in bericht
...
>I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
> But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
> up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> lots of pepper?
>
My cheap pepper grinder from Ikea works very well, but it's for small
amounts. A coffee grinder would work for large amounts. Maybe even a large
pestle and mortar would be to your liking.

However, do you want large amounts for grinding ahead? Because as it ages,
the pepper will lose aroma. Frehsly ground-as-needed tastes better. And
doesn't require a larger grinder.

On 2006-08-25, > wrote:
> I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.

I see lots of recommendations for coffee grinders, those cheapy
electric whirly blade kind. Yes, they will grind pepper and other
spices, but they will not give you a uniform grind. You'll get
everything from course chunks to fine powder in the same batch. I
don't recommend them.

If you want uniform grind, I recommend a Turkish coffee grinder. These
are typically made of brass and have conical burrs to give a good
uniform grind. The Atlas grinder mentioned by another poster are
essentially Turkish grinders with a table stand ring added and the
price doubled. They go for $75-100 around here. I've got one. They
are excellent and give a good consistent grind at any setting. But,
you can get a regular Turkish coffee grinder for about $30-40. These
have no upright support stand, instead grinding into a brass cup that
fits over the bottom. They also don't usually have a screw grind
adjustment like the pricey Atlas brand. They instead require a less
precise slide burrs up and down on the shaft adjustment with set screw
and hex key wrench. This is more inconvenient, but the end result is
the same quality grind.

If you want even faster, I suggest you look at cheapo electric burr
coffee grinders ($100-150). Peppercorns are not unlike coffee beans
in hardness and grind requirements.

nb

> However, do you want large amounts for grinding ahead? Because as it ages,
> the pepper will lose aroma. Frehsly ground-as-needed tastes better. And
> doesn't require a larger grinder.

I don't think he ws talking about grinding peper ahead of time to use.
I make my own rubs and grinding a 1/4 cup of pepper in hand crank
grinder can take 10 or 15 minutes.

Nancy2 wrote:
> wrote:
> > I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> > and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
> >
> > But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> > of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> > handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> > thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
> > up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
> >
> > Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> > lots of pepper?
>
> Yup - buy a $15-20 coffee grinder and use it exclusively for your
> pepper (and other spices, if it cleans easily). They're electric -
> push the button - grind until it's the coarseness or fineness you like.

Those idiotic 'lectric whirlagigs don't grind, they pulverize, and very
unevenly, and they overheat the pepper... and they're certainly not
going to do a 1/2 cup, lucky if they can handle two Tbls.

Atlas (actually a Turkish coffee grinder) is the best high performance
manual pepper grinder out the
http://www.chefscatalog.com/catalog/...l&ite m=93860

Extremely well made, infinitely adjustable from a fine powder to
butcher's coarse grind, and will grind a 1/2 cup in about a minute, and
effortlessly... and collects the grind in it's own container, no muss,
no fuss.

I have a pair, the big brass... will hold more than 1 cup of
peppercorns.

Sheldon

notbob wrote:
> On 2006-08-25, > wrote:
>> I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
>> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
<snip>
> If you want uniform grind, I recommend a Turkish coffee grinder. These
> are typically made of brass and have conical burrs to give a good
> uniform grind. The Atlas grinder mentioned by another poster are
> essentially Turkish grinders with a table stand ring added and the
> price doubled. They go for $75-100 around here. I've got one. They
> are excellent and give a good consistent grind at any setting. But,

> nb

Boy, I couldn't agree more regarding the Turkish grinder. I
have one and it's great. I'd been on a quest for a decent
pepper mill for quite some time. I'm very happy with it!
I also have another one that was made by Spade in Italy that
works extremely well too but I can't find any links for it.

I got it in a specialty shop on Cape Cod I believe.

Here are just a couple of links to the Turkish style mills.
Mine was actually made in Greece.

http://tinyurl.com/kx6f2
http://www.greatcookware.com/pepmilim.html

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Steve Wertz wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC),
> wrote:
>
> > I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> > and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
> >
> > But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> > of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> > handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> > thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
> > up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
> >
> > Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> > lots of pepper?
>
> A coffee grinder will grind a half cup of pepper in about 3
> seconds.

Three seconds... methinks you exaggerate... even the best commercial
coffee grinders need about 20 seconds for a 1/2 cup.

Sheldon wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> > > and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
> > >
> > > But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> > > of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> > > handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> > > thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
> > > up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
> > >
> > > Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> > > lots of pepper?
> >
> > Yup - buy a $15-20 coffee grinder and use it exclusively for your
> > pepper (and other spices, if it cleans easily). They're electric -
> > push the button - grind until it's the coarseness or fineness you like.
>
> Those idiotic 'lectric whirlagigs don't grind, they pulverize, and very
> unevenly, and they overheat the pepper... and they're certainly not
> going to do a 1/2 cup, lucky if they can handle two Tbls.
>

Well, I wouldn't try to do 1/2 cup in one batch, but mine certainly
grinds more than it pulverizes. Each to own, and all that ... works
great for me.

N.

In article >,
wrote:

> I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
> But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
> up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> lots of pepper?

Small coffee grinder, dedicated to spices only!
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> schreef in bericht
oups.com...
>> However, do you want large amounts for grinding ahead? Because as it
>> ages,
>> the pepper will lose aroma. Frehsly ground-as-needed tastes better. And
>> doesn't require a larger grinder.
>
> I don't think he ws talking about grinding peper ahead of time to use.
> I make my own rubs and grinding a 1/4 cup of pepper in hand crank
> grinder can take 10 or 15 minutes.

Thanks for the info. Dry rubs are so uncommon here I had no idea they
involved such quantites. I'd use a coffee grinder then (my beautiful
old-fashioned hand cranked one).
>

wrote:
> I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
> But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
> up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> lots of pepper?

Flour or coffee mill or http://www.pugsly.com/Mills.htm

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snip
> I shake the whole unit as I whirl and it comes out pretty
> consistent.
>
> -sw

I'll have to try that. I just let mine sit on the counter and I get the
variations in size others have mentioned. Do you pulse the trigger or just
hold it down?

ag

Nonnymus > wrote:
> Jke wrote:
> > > schreef in bericht
> > [ . . . ]
> We have an 8" granite mortar and pestle that sits on the kitchen cabinet
> near the spices. I generally prepare my rubs in batches that might be
> used up over a month or two. I keep the mixed, prepared rub or
> seasoning in airtight containers and just take out what is needed for a
> specific meal.
>
> The trick is that I then put the rub into the mortar and grind it for a
> minute or so with the pestle before adding it to the meat or fish. For
> instance, I have a blackening spice blend I use on Salmon and another
> one on rib roasts. By grinding the preblended stuff in the mortar for a
> bit, the oils are freshly released and there is a definite improvement
> over using my blend right out of the container.
>
> The mortar wasn't that expensive and it sure makes a big different in
> the flavoring.

Jun has a granite mortar & pestle. as well as a fired clay mortar & wooden
pestle. I dunno which she uses for what? I keep my peppercorns in my
Turkish (Greek made) grinder. Delightful aroma when ya coarse grind it
right over yer food! ;-)

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In alt.food.barbecue Jke > wrote:

> However, do you want large amounts for grinding ahead? Because as it ages,
> the pepper will lose aroma. Frehsly ground-as-needed tastes better. And
> doesn't require a larger grinder.

If I was going to grind it ahead of time, I'd just buy ground pepper. And
a large grinder is for large quantities - a half-cup or more.


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> wrote in message
...
>I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
> But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
> of pepper easily.

Blender. 1/2 cup to a cup at a time in seconds.

For smaller amounts, the Atlas is my choice. That is what sits on our
table.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

>I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
>and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
>But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
>of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
>handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
>thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
>up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
>
>Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
>lots of pepper?

Hi there,

A lot of what others say is true in terms of blade mills pulverizing
pepper rather than grinding it, and I would say that there IS a
difference, especially in the shape of the resultant grounds which
make a difference in how it tastes. Whether that difference is
noticeable to you or not in your application is what matters.

As you asked for suggestions, here are mine with notes:

For hand grinding kitchen and table use, I strongly vote for a Unicorn
Magnum pepper grinder. My Step Dad gave me one about 10 years ago for
xmas and it is the best pepper grinder I have ever used. Spendy for
some but it has been a valuable tool for me. Oh, and I HAVE ground 1/3
cup of pepper for a dry rub, but it did take a bit of doing. Wouldn't
recommend it for bulk.

http://www.amazon.com/Unicorn-Magnum-Plus/dp/B0000CFB4N

If you want the cheap route and don't mind the difference between a
true grind and pulverized, get a krups or braun coffe grinder.
http://tinyurl.com/ounn7

If you don't mind spending a little more and fussing a little more to
get a better grind, get a small burr grinder such as this melitta:
http://tinyurl.com/mtn2v

These are fairly cheap burr grinders which I probably wouldn't
recommend for coffee but should do well for spices. Note that this
one you would want to only put into it as much as you wanted to grind,
otherwise you will have to fuss with it to get the extra out of the
hopper.

From there you would go to the more expensive hand grinders such as a
zassenhaus mill. These are EXCELLENT grinders if you can find one,
and can do more volume than the smaller tabletop peppermills

http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/gr...us_manual_mill

That's about all I got. Hope the info is useful.

-Chef Juke
"EVERYbody Eats When They Come To MY House!"
www.chefjuke.com

Steve Calvin wrote:
> notbob wrote:
> > On 2006-08-25,
> > If you want uniform grind, I recommend a Turkish coffee grinder.

> Boy, I couldn't agree more regarding the Turkish grinder. I
> have one and it's great. I'd been on a quest for a decent
> pepper mill for quite some time. I'm very happy with it!

> Steve

Great- thanks for the info. I've been trying to find a pepper mill that
works well, and that will grind lots of pepper w/o consuming too much
time, and that won't cause carpel tunnel! I currently have a William
Bounds 12" Pro pepper mill, which sells for app $75. It takes way too
long to grind enough pepper for most recipes, let alone any dry rub
recipe! I'm going to look into one of those Turkish grinders!

Thanks again,

Jim E

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

>I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of foods,
>and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
>But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large amounts
>of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
>handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
>thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will grind
>up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
>
>Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
>lots of pepper?


Coffee grinder.

Steve Wertz wrote:
> ag wrote:
>
> >> I shake the whole unit as I whirl and it comes out pretty
> >> consistent.
> >
> > I'll have to try that. I just let mine sit on the counter and I get the
> > variations in size others have mentioned. Do you pulse the trigger or just
> > hold it down?
>
> I just hold it and shake vigorously like a martini (not that I've
> ever made a martini).

Every time folks try to have a serious conversation this same pair have
to turn the topic to masturbation.

Sheldon Plan C

"Sheldon" > wrote

> Steve Wertz wrote:
>> ag wrote:
>>
>> >> I shake the whole unit as I whirl and it comes out pretty
>> >> consistent.
>> >
>> > I'll have to try that. I just let mine sit on the counter and I get the
>> > variations in size others have mentioned. Do you pulse the trigger or
>> > just
>> > hold it down?
>>
>> I just hold it and shake vigorously like a martini (not that I've
>> ever made a martini).
>
> Every time folks try to have a serious conversation this same pair have
> to turn the topic to masturbation.
>
> Sheldon Plan C

(laughing really loud) Sheldon, I've been trying to think of what to say
since SW's first comment.

nancy

On 26-Aug-2006, Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On 25 Aug 2006 11:54:58 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
>
> > Steve Wertz wrote:
> >
> >> A coffee grinder will grind a half cup of pepper in about 3
> >> seconds.
> >
> > Three seconds... methinks you exaggerate... even the best commercial
> > coffee grinders need about 20 seconds for a 1/2 cup.
>
> 5...6 seconds, tops. It's a Braun, if that helps.
>
> -sw

Alright, just for you guys, I went out to the kitchen and measured out
a half cup of beans into the coffee grinder. I started the grinder and my
stopwatch. One point five one seconds later, I had finely ground coffee.
Pictures on ABF. The grinder is a Mr. Coffee; very similar to the Braun
I used to have.

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wrote:
> On 26-Aug-2006, Steve Wertz > wrote:
>
> > On 25 Aug 2006 11:54:58 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > > Steve Wertz wrote:
> > >
> > >> A coffee grinder will grind a half cup of pepper in about 3
> > >> seconds.
> > >
> > > Three seconds... methinks you exaggerate... even the best commercial
> > > coffee grinders need about 20 seconds for a 1/2 cup.
> >
> > 5...6 seconds, tops. It's a Braun, if that helps.
> >
> > -sw
>
> Alright, just for you guys, I went out to the kitchen and measured out
> a half cup of beans into the coffee grinder. I started the grinder and my
> stopwatch. One point five one seconds later, I had finely ground coffee.
> Pictures on ABF. The grinder is a Mr. Coffee; very similar to the Braun
> I used to have.

Those whirlagig blade choppers are not grinders and can't grind
anything.

On 2006-08-27 08:32:12 -0500, "Sheldon" > said:

>
> wrote:
>> On 26-Aug-2006, Steve Wertz > wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 Aug 2006 11:54:58 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve Wertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A coffee grinder will grind a half cup of pepper in about 3
>>>>> seconds.
>>>>
>>>> Three seconds... methinks you exaggerate... even the best commercial
>>>> coffee grinders need about 20 seconds for a 1/2 cup.
>>>
>>> 5...6 seconds, tops. It's a Braun, if that helps.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Alright, just for you guys, I went out to the kitchen and measured out
>> a half cup of beans into the coffee grinder. I started the grinder and my
>> stopwatch. One point five one seconds later, I had finely ground coffee.
>> Pictures on ABF. The grinder is a Mr. Coffee; very similar to the Braun
>> I used to have.
>
> Those whirlagig blade choppers are not grinders and can't grind
> anything.

I don't recall anyone recommending a blade chopper. Braun makes burr
grinders, which are exactly what you need for grinding large amounts of
black pepper.

> wrote in message
...
>I like to use fresh ingredients. I use ground pepper on a lot of
>foods,
> and rubs contain lots and lots of pepper.
>
> But I don't have a good pepper grinder which will grind up large
> amounts
> of pepper easily. I've tried a pepper ball, made of plastic with two
> handles that you squeexe, and a stainless steel grinder with a
> thumb-operted plunger on the top. Both work well, but neither will
> grind
> up, say. a half-cup of pepper quickly and easily.
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could conveniently grind
> lots of pepper?

Do you have a Bed, Bathroom and Beyond near you? they might have
something.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:21:08 -0700, Nonnymus >
wrote:

>The problem would be locating such a shop. The one I recall was by the
>market in Seattle,

Hey, I think I know the shop you mean. A little narrow shop tucked
into one of the little mini-malls across the street from Pikes Market?
Bought some harissa there last spring.

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