[Yeah, you probably thought this was going to be another post where the
guy asks where he can find Smithwick's in the US, 'cause his wife
usually hates beer but she had it in Ireland and, that night, they had
the best sex they ever had.]

I've only had the stuff once, from a can brought back from Ireland, and
it was: "eh". Just a dull, amber ale of the sort that Bass has turned into.

But, looking through a local Jersey shore entertainment magazine, full
of ads for St. Patrick's Day at the local bars and clubs, I came across
a full page ad from Diageo-Guinness, complete with a couple of photos
from their current ad campaigns (the "Brilliant" animated b&w old photos
& the "Guinness as presents"). (Sorry, no shamrocks or leprechauns, tho')

T'IS THE ST. PATRICK'S SEASON
ENJOY IRELAND'S TRINITY OF BEERS THIS ST. PATRICK'S SEASON! BRILLIANT!!

And below are three draft beers in pint glasses w/logos:

Harp, Guinness and..... Smithwick's.

The latter with "Now Available in America!!" written over the glass.
Says, "Imported", but they don't say if it's from across the ocean or
just the St. Lawrence River & Great Lakes.

> wrote in message
. net...
> [Yeah, you probably thought this was going to be another post where the
> guy asks where he can find Smithwick's in the US, 'cause his wife
> usually hates beer but she had it in Ireland and, that night, they had
> the best sex they ever had.]



Interesting comments about Smithwicks, but it sure is not the stuff you get
on draught in Ireland
Here it has bags of taste,and one of the few decent Ale's available on
draught, i do know that a brand is brewed for local or a particular
country,so I doubt very much the Smithwicks you tasted came from Ireland
St James's gate in Dublin are now marketing the Nigerian version of Guinness
in Ireland,,comes in a 330cl bottle,and is near 8%
I tried it recently,but not to my taste, im a draught Beamish man myself,a
little sweeter,and a bit more "hoppy" than Guinness
Mul

mul wrote:

> > wrote in message
> . net...
>
>>[Yeah, you probably thought this was going to be another post where the
>>guy asks where he can find Smithwick's in the US, 'cause his wife
>>usually hates beer but she had it in Ireland and, that night, they had
>>the best sex they ever had.]
>
>
>
> Interesting comments about Smithwicks, but it sure is not the stuff you get
> on draught in Ireland

Well, the fictional poster above and I both had Smithwick's from Ireland
(mine a canned version, admittedly).

> Here it has bags of taste,and one of the few decent Ale's available on
> draught,

Well, yeah, but, on offense, in general, most beer drinkers would say
that, except for your stouts, Ireland has pretty poor selection of beer
styles.

i do know that a brand is brewed for local or a particular
> country,so I doubt very much the Smithwicks you tasted came from Ireland

See above. The question is, for this version of the beer recently
introduced to the US, where does it come from? Bottled Guinness Extra
Stout and IIRC Harp, bottled and kegged, in the US comes from Labatt's
in Canada, so I'm guessing Smithwick's may be, too. (In fact, I seem
to recall there are a number of Irish ales contract brewed already in
Canada).

What I find interesting is the number of people who admit to liking
Harp- it seems only because it's brewed by Guinness. If there's a
duller "lager" imported from Europe (or is it Canada) I can't think of
one. "Just as dull", sure...

So, do the Irish actually drink Harp, is it a popular beer or is it just
something to fill out the Dieago/Guinness line? (Something I think
Smithwick's is doing- replacing the now Coors-owned Bass in it's line-up).

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 wrote:

> mul wrote:
>
> > > wrote in message
> > . net...
> >
> >>[Yeah, you probably thought this was going to be another post where the
> >>guy asks where he can find Smithwick's in the US, 'cause his wife
> >>usually hates beer but she had it in Ireland and, that night, they had
> >>the best sex they ever had.]
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting comments about Smithwicks, but it sure is not the stuff you get
> > on draught in Ireland
>
> Well, the fictional poster above and I both had Smithwick's from Ireland
> (mine a canned version, admittedly).
>
> > Here it has bags of taste,and one of the few decent Ale's available on
> > draught,
>
> Well, yeah, but, on offense, in general, most beer drinkers would say
> that, except for your stouts, Ireland has pretty poor selection of beer
> styles.
>
> i do know that a brand is brewed for local or a particular
> > country,so I doubt very much the Smithwicks you tasted came from Ireland
>
> See above. The question is, for this version of the beer recently
> introduced to the US, where does it come from? Bottled Guinness Extra
> Stout and IIRC Harp, bottled and kegged, in the US comes from Labatt's
> in Canada, so I'm guessing Smithwick's may be, too. (In fact, I seem
> to recall there are a number of Irish ales contract brewed already in
> Canada).
>
> What I find interesting is the number of people who admit to liking
> Harp- it seems only because it's brewed by Guinness. If there's a
> duller "lager" imported from Europe (or is it Canada) I can't think of
> one. "Just as dull", sure...
>
> So, do the Irish actually drink Harp, is it a popular beer or is it just
> something to fill out the Dieago/Guinness line? (Something I think
> Smithwick's is doing- replacing the now Coors-owned Bass in it's line-up).
>

If Smithwicks is coming in widgeted cans, then very likely its from
Ireland.

Expletive Deleted wrote:

>
>
> If Smithwicks is coming in widgeted cans, then very likely its from
> Ireland.
>

So far the reports of it are, IIRC, it being strictly a draft product.

Expletive Deleted > wrote:

>
>
>On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 wrote:
>
>> mul wrote:
>>
>> > > wrote in message
>> > . net...
>> >
>> >>[Yeah, you probably thought this was going to be another post where the
>> >>guy asks where he can find Smithwick's in the US, 'cause his wife
>> >>usually hates beer but she had it in Ireland and, that night, they had
>> >>the best sex they ever had.]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Interesting comments about Smithwicks, but it sure is not the stuff you get
>> > on draught in Ireland
>>
>> Well, the fictional poster above and I both had Smithwick's from Ireland
>> (mine a canned version, admittedly).
>>
>> > Here it has bags of taste,and one of the few decent Ale's available on
>> > draught,
>>
>> Well, yeah, but, on offense, in general, most beer drinkers would say
>> that, except for your stouts, Ireland has pretty poor selection of beer
>> styles.
>>
>> i do know that a brand is brewed for local or a particular
>> > country,so I doubt very much the Smithwicks you tasted came from Ireland
>>
>> See above. The question is, for this version of the beer recently
>> introduced to the US, where does it come from? Bottled Guinness Extra
>> Stout and IIRC Harp, bottled and kegged, in the US comes from Labatt's
>> in Canada, so I'm guessing Smithwick's may be, too. (In fact, I seem
>> to recall there are a number of Irish ales contract brewed already in
>> Canada).
>>
>> What I find interesting is the number of people who admit to liking
>> Harp- it seems only because it's brewed by Guinness. If there's a
>> duller "lager" imported from Europe (or is it Canada) I can't think of
>> one. "Just as dull", sure...
>>
>> So, do the Irish actually drink Harp, is it a popular beer or is it just
>> something to fill out the Dieago/Guinness line? (Something I think
>> Smithwick's is doing- replacing the now Coors-owned Bass in it's line-up).
>>
>
>If Smithwicks is coming in widgeted cans, then very likely its from
>Ireland.

Since the bottles here (Ontario, Canada) are also from Ireland, I
doubt that bottles in the States are from Canada either.

The Labatt Guinness Extra Stout is the only Irish beer that I know of
which is brewed in Canada. Not surprisingly, it's as bad as most
Labatt products.

Andrew

> wrote:


> What I find interesting is the number of people who admit to liking
> Harp- it seems only because it's brewed by Guinness. If there's a
> duller "lager" imported from Europe (or is it Canada) I can't think of
> one. "Just as dull", sure...
>
> So, do the Irish actually drink Harp, is it a popular beer or is it just
> something to fill out the Dieago/Guinness line? (Something I think
> Smithwick's is doing- replacing the now Coors-owned Bass in it's line-up).


I gather that the Irish drink a lot of Bud these days. Thus we have the
ridiculous situation of Irish people drinking locally-brewed beer with a
North American name, and North Americans drinking locally-brewed beer
with an Irish name. And both will swear the one with the foreign name
tastes better. The grass is always greener, I suppose (no pun intended).
The brand corporations know this. I was talking to a Greek girl recently
who mentioned an "Irish" beer she liked. I'd never heard of it. Looked
it up and found out it was brewed in Italy for the southern European
market.

Tim Vanhoof a écrit :

> [...]
>
>I was talking to a Greek girl recently
>who mentioned an "Irish" beer she liked. I'd never heard of it. Looked
>it up and found out it was brewed in Italy for the southern European
>market.
>
>
Even Polish breweries such as Kormorant have their own interpretation of
an "Irish Beer" (at 7% or so)

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:45:30 GMT, (Tim Vanhoof)
wrote:

>I gather that the Irish drink a lot of Bud these days. Thus we have the
>ridiculous situation of Irish people drinking locally-brewed beer with a
>North American name, and North Americans drinking locally-brewed beer
>with an Irish name.

Bud is brewed in both Ireland and the UK. The websites appear to be
identical, but AFAIK the two beers are completely different:

http://www.budweiser.ie/
http://www.budweiser.co.uk/

I've no idea what version the people in Northern Ireland get.

Best regards, Paul
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