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mikron 15-10-2004 04:09 PM

it 's here.........
 
Hey folks,

last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).

Looking foward to the bottles....

mikron

Joel 15-10-2004 06:12 PM

mikron > wrote:
>Hey folks,
>
>last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
>was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
>with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).
>
>Looking foward to the bottles....


Darnit, now I have the standard 3-4 week wait before
it shows up locally. I'm twitching already.

I did chat a bit with one of the brewery folks at their
GABF booth, where I had been hoping for an SNCA preview.
He said it'd be a couple weeks. However, I was pleased to
try their Brown and IPA, which I'd never had before.
(They were nice.)
--
Joel Plutchak "Eat everything. Have fun." - Julia Child.
plutchak at [...]

Joel 15-10-2004 06:12 PM

mikron > wrote:
>Hey folks,
>
>last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
>was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
>with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).
>
>Looking foward to the bottles....


Darnit, now I have the standard 3-4 week wait before
it shows up locally. I'm twitching already.

I did chat a bit with one of the brewery folks at their
GABF booth, where I had been hoping for an SNCA preview.
He said it'd be a couple weeks. However, I was pleased to
try their Brown and IPA, which I'd never had before.
(They were nice.)
--
Joel Plutchak "Eat everything. Have fun." - Julia Child.
plutchak at [...]

malarkey 17-10-2004 07:56 PM

"mikron" > wrote in message
om...
>
> last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
> was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
> with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).


YES!! I picked up a few seasonals yesterday, which are showing up on the
shelves up here in the Emerald City. Bridgeport, Deschutes, Alaskan, Full
Sail...

Its only a short while before SNCA makes its appearance... ;-)

M



malarkey 17-10-2004 07:56 PM

"mikron" > wrote in message
om...
>
> last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
> was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
> with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).


YES!! I picked up a few seasonals yesterday, which are showing up on the
shelves up here in the Emerald City. Bridgeport, Deschutes, Alaskan, Full
Sail...

Its only a short while before SNCA makes its appearance... ;-)

M



dgs 17-10-2004 11:16 PM

malarkey wrote:

> "mikron" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
>>was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
>>with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).

>
> YES!! I picked up a few seasonals yesterday, which are showing up on the
> shelves up here in the Emerald City. Bridgeport, Deschutes, Alaskan, Full
> Sail...
>
> Its only a short while before SNCA makes its appearance... ;-)


I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that can
hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after Christmas, as
it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted cases of Jubel on
sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers. It's *OCTOBER*,
f'cryin' out loud!
--
dgs


dgs 17-10-2004 11:16 PM

malarkey wrote:

> "mikron" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
>>was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
>>with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).

>
> YES!! I picked up a few seasonals yesterday, which are showing up on the
> shelves up here in the Emerald City. Bridgeport, Deschutes, Alaskan, Full
> Sail...
>
> Its only a short while before SNCA makes its appearance... ;-)


I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that can
hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after Christmas, as
it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted cases of Jubel on
sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers. It's *OCTOBER*,
f'cryin' out loud!
--
dgs


dgs 17-10-2004 11:16 PM

malarkey wrote:

> "mikron" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
>>was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
>>with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).

>
> YES!! I picked up a few seasonals yesterday, which are showing up on the
> shelves up here in the Emerald City. Bridgeport, Deschutes, Alaskan, Full
> Sail...
>
> Its only a short while before SNCA makes its appearance... ;-)


I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that can
hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after Christmas, as
it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted cases of Jubel on
sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers. It's *OCTOBER*,
f'cryin' out loud!
--
dgs


Tim Everding 18-10-2004 02:47 AM

On 2004-10-15, Joel > wrote:
> mikron > wrote:
>>last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
>>was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
>>with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).

>
> Darnit, now I have the standard 3-4 week wait before
> it shows up locally. I'm twitching already.



It's now available at Binny's in suburban Chicago.


--
Tim Everding

Tim Everding 18-10-2004 02:47 AM

On 2004-10-15, Joel > wrote:
> mikron > wrote:
>>last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
>>was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
>>with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).

>
> Darnit, now I have the standard 3-4 week wait before
> it shows up locally. I'm twitching already.



It's now available at Binny's in suburban Chicago.


--
Tim Everding

Joel 18-10-2004 03:20 PM

In article >, dgs > wrote:
>I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that can
>hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after Christmas, as
>it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted cases of Jubel on
>sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers. It's *OCTOBER*,
>f'cryin' out loud!


Bigfoot is for after Christmas. I like my SNCA to be
readily available before Thanksgiving (which is a holiday,
you culturally insensitive brute). Yeah, mid-October is
a bit early, but I won't complain.
--
Joel Plutchak "Eat everything. Have fun." - Julia Child.
plutchak at [...]

Joel 18-10-2004 03:20 PM

In article >, dgs > wrote:
>I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that can
>hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after Christmas, as
>it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted cases of Jubel on
>sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers. It's *OCTOBER*,
>f'cryin' out loud!


Bigfoot is for after Christmas. I like my SNCA to be
readily available before Thanksgiving (which is a holiday,
you culturally insensitive brute). Yeah, mid-October is
a bit early, but I won't complain.
--
Joel Plutchak "Eat everything. Have fun." - Julia Child.
plutchak at [...]

Dan Iwerks 18-10-2004 08:03 PM

ers (Joel) wrote in
:

> In article >, dgs >
> wrote:
>>I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that
>>can hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after
>>Christmas, as it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted
>>cases of Jubel on sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers.
>>It's *OCTOBER*, f'cryin' out loud!

>
> Bigfoot is for after Christmas. I like my SNCA to be
> readily available before Thanksgiving (which is a holiday,
> you culturally insensitive brute). Yeah, mid-October is
> a bit early, but I won't complain.


Thanksgiving? Hey, why wait for that holiday. I'll be giving out SNCA
to the kiddies for Halloween.
--
************************************************** ***************
Dan Iwerks thinks that the beer you're drinking probably sucks.
The fundamental problem with Solipsism is it makes me
responsible for the fact that you're a complete idiot.
************************************************** ***************

Dan Iwerks 18-10-2004 08:03 PM

ers (Joel) wrote in
:

> In article >, dgs >
> wrote:
>>I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that
>>can hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after
>>Christmas, as it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted
>>cases of Jubel on sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers.
>>It's *OCTOBER*, f'cryin' out loud!

>
> Bigfoot is for after Christmas. I like my SNCA to be
> readily available before Thanksgiving (which is a holiday,
> you culturally insensitive brute). Yeah, mid-October is
> a bit early, but I won't complain.


Thanksgiving? Hey, why wait for that holiday. I'll be giving out SNCA
to the kiddies for Halloween.
--
************************************************** ***************
Dan Iwerks thinks that the beer you're drinking probably sucks.
The fundamental problem with Solipsism is it makes me
responsible for the fact that you're a complete idiot.
************************************************** ***************

dgs 19-10-2004 05:35 AM

Joel wrote:

> In article >, dgs > wrote:
>
>>I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that can
>>hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after Christmas, as
>>it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted cases of Jubel on
>>sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers. It's *OCTOBER*,
>>f'cryin' out loud!

>
> Bigfoot is for after Christmas. I like my SNCA to be
> readily available before Thanksgiving (which is a holiday,
> you culturally insensitive brute).


Och, ye heathen laddie. Thanksgiving is a fookin' *harvest* feast. So
drink the beers that celebrate the bounty making your table and belly
groan. There's time enough for the likes of SNCA right after that.
--
dgs


dgs 19-10-2004 05:35 AM

Joel wrote:

> In article >, dgs > wrote:
>
>>I can wait. One of my locals had SN Harvest on tap, and AFAIC, that can
>>hang around for a few more weeks. Let SNCA come out after Christmas, as
>>it should. Meanwhile, there are already discounted cases of Jubel on
>>sale at Costco. Feh. So much for "holiday" beers. It's *OCTOBER*,
>>f'cryin' out loud!

>
> Bigfoot is for after Christmas. I like my SNCA to be
> readily available before Thanksgiving (which is a holiday,
> you culturally insensitive brute).


Och, ye heathen laddie. Thanksgiving is a fookin' *harvest* feast. So
drink the beers that celebrate the bounty making your table and belly
groan. There's time enough for the likes of SNCA right after that.
--
dgs


Steve Jackson 19-10-2004 07:59 AM

"mikron" > wrote in message
om...

> last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
> was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
> with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).


I'm beginning to wonder if SNCA was ever malty. Every year, we all say the
same thing: "it's not as malty as I remember." I'm beginning to think we've
all got collective amnesia and the thing never was malty but just a
bracingly hoppy beer that had enough malt going on not to wither in the
presence of so many hops.

There's nothing on Snopes, but I'm quite prepared to declare the vanishing
maltiness of SNCA to be urban legend.

-Steve



Steve Jackson 19-10-2004 07:59 AM

"mikron" > wrote in message
om...

> last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
> was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
> with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).


I'm beginning to wonder if SNCA was ever malty. Every year, we all say the
same thing: "it's not as malty as I remember." I'm beginning to think we've
all got collective amnesia and the thing never was malty but just a
bracingly hoppy beer that had enough malt going on not to wither in the
presence of so many hops.

There's nothing on Snopes, but I'm quite prepared to declare the vanishing
maltiness of SNCA to be urban legend.

-Steve



Steve Jackson 19-10-2004 07:59 AM

"mikron" > wrote in message
om...

> last night i had a pint of 2004 SN celebration ale at Toronado in SF;
> was not as malty as i remember it in years past, and is quite hoppy,
> with a strong hop aroma(nice and fresh).


I'm beginning to wonder if SNCA was ever malty. Every year, we all say the
same thing: "it's not as malty as I remember." I'm beginning to think we've
all got collective amnesia and the thing never was malty but just a
bracingly hoppy beer that had enough malt going on not to wither in the
presence of so many hops.

There's nothing on Snopes, but I'm quite prepared to declare the vanishing
maltiness of SNCA to be urban legend.

-Steve



Lew Bryson 19-10-2004 05:45 PM

"Steve Jackson" > wrote in message
news:B42dd.90066

> There's nothing on Snopes, but I'm quite prepared to declare the vanishing
> maltiness of SNCA to be urban legend.


I love this NG.

--
Lew Bryson

www.LewBryson.com
Author of "New York Breweries" and "Pennsylvania Breweries," 2nd ed., both
available at <www.amazon.com>
The Hotmail address on this post is for newsgroups only: I don't check it,
or respond to it. Spam away.



Lew Bryson 19-10-2004 05:45 PM

"Steve Jackson" > wrote in message
news:B42dd.90066

> There's nothing on Snopes, but I'm quite prepared to declare the vanishing
> maltiness of SNCA to be urban legend.


I love this NG.

--
Lew Bryson

www.LewBryson.com
Author of "New York Breweries" and "Pennsylvania Breweries," 2nd ed., both
available at <www.amazon.com>
The Hotmail address on this post is for newsgroups only: I don't check it,
or respond to it. Spam away.



Lew Bryson 19-10-2004 05:45 PM

"Steve Jackson" > wrote in message
news:B42dd.90066

> There's nothing on Snopes, but I'm quite prepared to declare the vanishing
> maltiness of SNCA to be urban legend.


I love this NG.

--
Lew Bryson

www.LewBryson.com
Author of "New York Breweries" and "Pennsylvania Breweries," 2nd ed., both
available at <www.amazon.com>
The Hotmail address on this post is for newsgroups only: I don't check it,
or respond to it. Spam away.



Jonathan Lundell 20-10-2004 08:05 AM

In article >,
Tim Everding > wrote:

> It's now available at Binny's in suburban Chicago.


Half Moon Bay, California. Or at least it was until I cleaned them out.

As good as any in recent memory.

(Malty? SNCA? Gimme a break!)

Time for a trip to Toronado.

Jonathan Lundell 20-10-2004 08:05 AM

In article >,
Tim Everding > wrote:

> It's now available at Binny's in suburban Chicago.


Half Moon Bay, California. Or at least it was until I cleaned them out.

As good as any in recent memory.

(Malty? SNCA? Gimme a break!)

Time for a trip to Toronado.

Grafix8888 21-10-2004 02:49 AM

I've always scoffed at the seemingly annual reports that SNCA has changed
(usually for the worse) and maintained that it has always been a "bracingly
hoppy beer that had enough malt going on not to wither in the presence of so
many hops." Yet after my first sip of 04 SNCA a couple days ago my initial
thought was "damn this is a lot more hoppy this year"

OBMidwesternbeer: Three Floyd's makes some FG beer. I just finished the last of
the Alpha Kings that I brought back from Chicago and I'm already wishing for
more.

mike



Grafix8888 21-10-2004 02:49 AM

I've always scoffed at the seemingly annual reports that SNCA has changed
(usually for the worse) and maintained that it has always been a "bracingly
hoppy beer that had enough malt going on not to wither in the presence of so
many hops." Yet after my first sip of 04 SNCA a couple days ago my initial
thought was "damn this is a lot more hoppy this year"

OBMidwesternbeer: Three Floyd's makes some FG beer. I just finished the last of
the Alpha Kings that I brought back from Chicago and I'm already wishing for
more.

mike



Grafix8888 21-10-2004 02:49 AM

I've always scoffed at the seemingly annual reports that SNCA has changed
(usually for the worse) and maintained that it has always been a "bracingly
hoppy beer that had enough malt going on not to wither in the presence of so
many hops." Yet after my first sip of 04 SNCA a couple days ago my initial
thought was "damn this is a lot more hoppy this year"

OBMidwesternbeer: Three Floyd's makes some FG beer. I just finished the last of
the Alpha Kings that I brought back from Chicago and I'm already wishing for
more.

mike



Expletive Deleted 26-10-2004 10:32 PM



On Wed, 21 Oct 2004, Grafix8888 wrote:

> I've always scoffed at the seemingly annual reports that SNCA has changed
> (usually for the worse) and maintained that it has always been a "bracingly
> hoppy beer that had enough malt going on not to wither in the presence of so
> many hops." Yet after my first sip of 04 SNCA a couple days ago my initial
> thought was "damn this is a lot more hoppy this year"
>


I thought that 2001 and 02 were fairly consistent, and pretty hoppy
(finishing hops). I really felt that 03 was more bitter (not necessarily
less malty!) than those previous years. It seemed to me that maybe they
were trying to keep up with the double IPA trend so they upped the IBUs.
Haven't yet tried the 04.



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