11.2oz. bottle
9.2% ABV
Best before 12/25/2007 on bottle

I'm still making an effort to try things that I have for some reason
not got to before. I don't know why I have passed this up before,
maybe the price.

I drank this at cellar temp. (high 50's). It poured a deep brown with
plenty of carbonation forming a thick fine head. Lots of fruit and
malt in the aroma. This seemed pretty clean for a Belgian, not a lot
of funk. There was a very big and smooth malt presence with just a
touch of hops, nicely warming. I had a hard time picking out specific
flavors, but I really enjoyed it.

I've seen the 6 around here, but I don't think I've seen the 10.



-----------------------------------------------------
Pete Clouston
Lawrence (KS) Brewers Guild
http://www.sunflower.com/~homebrew

"p. clouston" <homebrewspam@sunflowerdotcom> wrote in message
...

> I drank this at cellar temp. (high 50's). It poured a deep brown with
> plenty of carbonation forming a thick fine head. Lots of fruit and
> malt in the aroma. This seemed pretty clean for a Belgian, not a lot
> of funk.

Not all Belgians are supposed to have "funk." In fact, I'd argue most
aren't. That's primarily limited to soured beers (lambics, some browns) and
"farmhouse" styles like saison, although there are exceptions (Orval being a
notable one).

With the exception of Orval, I've not found "funk" in any Trappist or
abbey-style beer. A wide range of fruity aromas and flavors, yes. But not
funk.

Now, if you were getting at the level of fruitiness and the like, I'd
disagree that Rochefort is lacking in that compoent. It has one of the most
complex aromas of any beer I've ever had.

> There was a very big and smooth malt presence with just a
> touch of hops, nicely warming. I had a hard time picking out specific
> flavors, but I really enjoyed it.

Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10, which is
an exercise similar to deciding which sexual position is "superior" to
another), is an astoundingly complex beer. The only thing I've had that's
more complex is Westvleteren.

>
> I've seen the 6 around here, but I don't think I've seen the 10.

I can usually find the 10 around southern California, and I also was able to
get it when I was living in Chicago. So your local distributor should be
able to track it down if he can get hold of the 8.

-Steve

Steve Jackson wrote:


>
> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10,

The 10 is stronger than the 8 (more alcohool in the 10)

Michèle

>
> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10, which is
> an exercise similar to deciding which sexual position is "superior" to
> another), is an astoundingly complex beer. The only thing I've had that's
> more complex is Westvleteren.
>
I have heard this several times over, as well as people taking an oath on
the 6, and inevitably, on the 10. It is essentially a matter of personal
taste, as in essentio, all three Rochefort beers are brewed to EXACTLY the
same recipe, the only difference being the ration ingredients/water. I'm not
making this up, they've told me so in all earnesty at the brewery.
Taste, OK, but if somebody tries to tell me Rochefort 8 is more complex than
Rochefort 10, I can't help guffawing.
Cheers, Joris

>
> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10, which is
> an exercise similar to deciding which sexual position is "superior" to
> another), is an astoundingly complex beer. The only thing I've had that's
> more complex is Westvleteren.
>
I have heard this several times over, as well as people taking an oath on
the 6, and inevitably, on the 10. It is essentially a matter of personal
taste, as in essentio, all three Rochefort beers are brewed to EXACTLY the
same recipe, the only difference being the ration ingredients/water. I'm not
making this up, they've told me so in all earnesty at the brewery.
Taste, OK, but if somebody tries to tell me Rochefort 8 is more complex than
Rochefort 10, I can't help guffawing.
Cheers, Joris

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:02:38 +0100, "Joris Pattyn"
> wrote:

>
>>
>> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10, which is
>> an exercise similar to deciding which sexual position is "superior" to
>> another), is an astoundingly complex beer. The only thing I've had that's
>> more complex is Westvleteren.
>>
>I have heard this several times over, as well as people taking an oath on
>the 6, and inevitably, on the 10. It is essentially a matter of personal
>taste, as in essentio, all three Rochefort beers are brewed to EXACTLY the
>same recipe, the only difference being the ration ingredients/water. I'm not
>making this up, they've told me so in all earnesty at the brewery.
>Taste, OK, but if somebody tries to tell me Rochefort 8 is more complex than
>Rochefort 10, I can't help guffawing.
>Cheers, Joris

Maybe the very high alcohol content of the 10 swamps some of the
flavours? I too prefer the 8, but must admit I didn't know all 3 beers
were gyle brewed.

Best regards, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:02:38 +0100, "Joris Pattyn"
> wrote:

>
>>
>> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10, which is
>> an exercise similar to deciding which sexual position is "superior" to
>> another), is an astoundingly complex beer. The only thing I've had that's
>> more complex is Westvleteren.
>>
>I have heard this several times over, as well as people taking an oath on
>the 6, and inevitably, on the 10. It is essentially a matter of personal
>taste, as in essentio, all three Rochefort beers are brewed to EXACTLY the
>same recipe, the only difference being the ration ingredients/water. I'm not
>making this up, they've told me so in all earnesty at the brewery.
>Taste, OK, but if somebody tries to tell me Rochefort 8 is more complex than
>Rochefort 10, I can't help guffawing.
>Cheers, Joris

Maybe the very high alcohol content of the 10 swamps some of the
flavours? I too prefer the 8, but must admit I didn't know all 3 beers
were gyle brewed.

Best regards, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk

>
> Maybe the very high alcohol content of the 10 swamps some of the
> flavours? I too prefer the 8, but must admit I didn't know all 3 beers
> were gyle brewed.
>
Beware, this is NOT high-gravity brewing (if that is what you mean by
gyle-brewing); all beers are brewed separately. Either they make 8, either
10, either 6 - no watering down. But the recipes stay the same.
Cheers, Joris

>
> Maybe the very high alcohol content of the 10 swamps some of the
> flavours? I too prefer the 8, but must admit I didn't know all 3 beers
> were gyle brewed.
>
Beware, this is NOT high-gravity brewing (if that is what you mean by
gyle-brewing); all beers are brewed separately. Either they make 8, either
10, either 6 - no watering down. But the recipes stay the same.
Cheers, Joris

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:34:32 +0100, "Joris Pattyn"
> wrote:

>>
>> Maybe the very high alcohol content of the 10 swamps some of the
>> flavours? I too prefer the 8, but must admit I didn't know all 3 beers
>> were gyle brewed.
>>
>Beware, this is NOT high-gravity brewing (if that is what you mean by
>gyle-brewing); all beers are brewed separately. Either they make 8, either
>10, either 6 - no watering down. But the recipes stay the same.
>Cheers, Joris

Ah, right, but that *may* make a real difference to the taste, since
the rate of fermentation will be different. Certainly I find the
flavours of the 8 more 'obvious' and upfront, whereas the 10 has a
much more laid back quality.

Best regards, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:34:32 +0100, "Joris Pattyn"
> wrote:

>>
>> Maybe the very high alcohol content of the 10 swamps some of the
>> flavours? I too prefer the 8, but must admit I didn't know all 3 beers
>> were gyle brewed.
>>
>Beware, this is NOT high-gravity brewing (if that is what you mean by
>gyle-brewing); all beers are brewed separately. Either they make 8, either
>10, either 6 - no watering down. But the recipes stay the same.
>Cheers, Joris

Ah, right, but that *may* make a real difference to the taste, since
the rate of fermentation will be different. Certainly I find the
flavours of the 8 more 'obvious' and upfront, whereas the 10 has a
much more laid back quality.

Best regards, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk

"Joris Pattyn" > wrote in message
...

> I have heard this several times over, as well as people taking an oath on
> the 6, and inevitably, on the 10. It is essentially a matter of personal
> taste, as in essentio, all three Rochefort beers are brewed to EXACTLY the
> same recipe, the only difference being the ration ingredients/water. I'm
> not making this up, they've told me so in all earnesty at the brewery.
> Taste, OK, but if somebody tries to tell me Rochefort 8 is more complex
> than Rochefort 10, I can't help guffawing.

Well, I didn't literally say the 8 is more complex than the 10, but I can
see how I left that impression with "Rochefort, especially the 8 ...". I
find them both amazingly complex. I just happen to prefer the 8, for
whatever completely unobjective reason. Maybe I find the somewhat lower
alcohol content compared to the 10 to create a more balanced beer. Maybe
it's the expression of fermentation and its byproducts that varies between
working two different-strength worts. I dunno. And it's not like I'd ever
turn away a 10.

-Steve

"Joris Pattyn" > wrote in message
...

> I have heard this several times over, as well as people taking an oath on
> the 6, and inevitably, on the 10. It is essentially a matter of personal
> taste, as in essentio, all three Rochefort beers are brewed to EXACTLY the
> same recipe, the only difference being the ration ingredients/water. I'm
> not making this up, they've told me so in all earnesty at the brewery.
> Taste, OK, but if somebody tries to tell me Rochefort 8 is more complex
> than Rochefort 10, I can't help guffawing.

Well, I didn't literally say the 8 is more complex than the 10, but I can
see how I left that impression with "Rochefort, especially the 8 ...". I
find them both amazingly complex. I just happen to prefer the 8, for
whatever completely unobjective reason. Maybe I find the somewhat lower
alcohol content compared to the 10 to create a more balanced beer. Maybe
it's the expression of fermentation and its byproducts that varies between
working two different-strength worts. I dunno. And it's not like I'd ever
turn away a 10.

-Steve

"Michèle" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Jackson wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10,
>
> The 10 is stronger than the 8 (more alcohool in the 10)

I know. In my opinion, more alcohol does not necessarily make a beer better.

-Steve

"Michèle" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Jackson wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10,
>
> The 10 is stronger than the 8 (more alcohool in the 10)

I know. In my opinion, more alcohol does not necessarily make a beer better.

-Steve

6, 8 & 10 are all fine beers but in my opinion the 10 far outshines the
other two. 10 is the beer equivalent of a very good port !


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"p. clouston" <homebrewspam@sunflowerdotcom> wrote in message
...
> 11.2oz. bottle
> 9.2% ABV
> Best before 12/25/2007 on bottle
>
> I'm still making an effort to try things that I have for some reason
> not got to before. I don't know why I have passed this up before,
> maybe the price.
>
> I drank this at cellar temp. (high 50's). It poured a deep brown with
> plenty of carbonation forming a thick fine head. Lots of fruit and
> malt in the aroma. This seemed pretty clean for a Belgian, not a lot
> of funk. There was a very big and smooth malt presence with just a
> touch of hops, nicely warming. I had a hard time picking out specific
> flavors, but I really enjoyed it.
>
> I've seen the 6 around here, but I don't think I've seen the 10.
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Pete Clouston
> Lawrence (KS) Brewers Guild
> http://www.sunflower.com/~homebrew

6, 8 & 10 are all fine beers but in my opinion the 10 far outshines the
other two. 10 is the beer equivalent of a very good port !


--
Regards
The Ale Fan

www.real-ale.net
The ISP for the real ale fan.

Got a beer related website ?
Then get on the Beer Ring: www.real-ale.net/webring




"p. clouston" <homebrewspam@sunflowerdotcom> wrote in message
...
> 11.2oz. bottle
> 9.2% ABV
> Best before 12/25/2007 on bottle
>
> I'm still making an effort to try things that I have for some reason
> not got to before. I don't know why I have passed this up before,
> maybe the price.
>
> I drank this at cellar temp. (high 50's). It poured a deep brown with
> plenty of carbonation forming a thick fine head. Lots of fruit and
> malt in the aroma. This seemed pretty clean for a Belgian, not a lot
> of funk. There was a very big and smooth malt presence with just a
> touch of hops, nicely warming. I had a hard time picking out specific
> flavors, but I really enjoyed it.
>
> I've seen the 6 around here, but I don't think I've seen the 10.
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Pete Clouston
> Lawrence (KS) Brewers Guild
> http://www.sunflower.com/~homebrew

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:25:24 -0800, "Steve Jackson"
> wrote:


>
>With the exception of Orval, I've not found "funk" in any Trappist or
>abbey-style beer. A wide range of fruity aromas and flavors, yes. But not
>funk.

I haven't tried all the Trappist ales yet, but I have got a bit of a
"musty" flavor from Chimay (can't recall which one).

>Now, if you were getting at the level of fruitiness and the like, I'd
>disagree that Rochefort is lacking in that compoent. It has one of the most
>complex aromas of any beer I've ever had.
>

I loved the fruitiness in the aroma. I definitely didn't find anything
lacking. Good stuff.




-----------------------------------------------------
Pete Clouston
Lawrence (KS) Brewers Guild
http://www.sunflower.com/~homebrew

Steve Jackson wrote:

>>> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10,
>>
>> The 10 is stronger than the 8 (more alcohol in the 10)


>
> I know. In my opinion, more alcohol does not necessarily make a beer
> better.
> -Steve
I agree with you

Michèle

Steve Jackson wrote:

>>> Rochefort, especially the 8 (which I think is superior to the 10,
>>
>> The 10 is stronger than the 8 (more alcohol in the 10)


>
> I know. In my opinion, more alcohol does not necessarily make a beer
> better.
> -Steve
I agree with you

Michèle

Michèle wrote:
> Steve Jackson wrote:

>
> Michèle

un petit lien :

http://www.bierebel.com/index.php?page=rochefort

Michèle wrote:
> Steve Jackson wrote:

>
> Michèle

un petit lien :

http://www.bierebel.com/index.php?page=rochefort