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NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info 21-09-2005 09:18 PM

Guinness and sewage
 
What's in Guinness?
Sewage?

I went to
www.guinness.com
to get info.

After filling out questionaire you are confronted with:
"
Yes, I'm happy with your terms and conditions and privacy policy.
www.guinness.com
Enter www.guinness.com
"

There are 14 [FOURTEEN] pages of terms and conditions
and
9 [NINE] pages of privacy policy

I am not going to read thru 23 pages of docs to read up aboutthere
product.

You don't have to do that on teh
Heineken
site to get past first page


Joel 21-09-2005 09:37 PM

> wrote:
>What's in Guinness?
>Sewage?
>
>I went to
>www.guinness.com
>to get info.
>
>After filling out questionaire you are confronted with:
>"
>Yes, I'm happy with your terms and conditions and privacy policy.
>www.guinness.com
>Enter www.guinness.com
>"
>
>There are 14 [FOURTEEN] pages of terms and conditions
>and
>9 [NINE] pages of privacy policy
>
>I am not going to read thru 23 pages of docs to read up aboutthere
>product.
>
>You don't have to do that on teh
>Heineken
>site to get past first page


I only had to choose a country and enter a birthdate.
No provacy policy, etc. I very easily found that Guinness
is reported to be made with (surprise!) barley, hops, water,
and yeast.
--
Joel Plutchak "It must be legal, the police are here taking
plutchak at [...] stuff, too." - A New Orleans looter, 30-Aug-2005

NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info 22-09-2005 07:07 PM

Are you saying there was NO:

"Yes, I'm happy with your terms and conditions and privacy policy"


John S. 22-09-2005 07:29 PM


wrote:
> What's in Guinness?
> Sewage?


Now why would you make such an inflamatory and completely baseless
statement.


>
> I went to
>
www.guinness.com
> to get info.


Good for you, I'm sure the site has lots of info.

>
> After filling out questionaire you are confronted with:
> "
> Yes, I'm happy with your terms and conditions and privacy policy.
> www.guinness.com
> Enter www.guinness.com


The questionaire is very simple (for most of us) and asks three very
basic questions. Pick any date above the age of 18 and any country. I
chose to be born in 1960 and from Angola. They are asking about age to
be sure nobody under 18 enters. No big deal.


> "
>
> There are 14 [FOURTEEN] pages of terms and conditions
> and
> 9 [NINE] pages of privacy policy
>
> I am not going to read thru 23 pages of docs to read up aboutthere
> product.


Well, if you want to learn about their (not there) product then you
have a simple choice: Click yes as most of us do and move on. Or if
you have a low threshold of pleasure wade through all of that stuff.
If you are concerned about cookies being placed on your pc just clear
the cookies and cache after visiting.


>
> You don't have to do that on teh
> Heineken
> site to get past first page


So what. The (not teh) Heineken site is a completely different
company. But guess what - they are dropping cookies onto your pc too.
If you don't want to sign on to Guiness then don't. Hey look
buckwheat, the Heineken site asks for age as well. Why are you not
concerned about that question.

Personally I think Guiness is one of the better brewers sites, with a
lot of information about the product and several screensavers and
wallpaper.


Joel 22-09-2005 08:03 PM

John S. > wrote:
>Well, if you want to learn about their (not there) product then you


>So what. The (not teh) Heineken site is a completely different


>If you don't want to sign on to Guiness then don't.
>
>Personally I think Guiness is one of the better brewers sites...


ObPeeve: Guinness, not Guiness.
--
Joel Plutchak "If you got the grits, serve 'em!" - Stanley Crouch
plutchak at [...]

John S. 22-09-2005 08:31 PM


Joel wrote:
> John S. > wrote:
> >Well, if you want to learn about their (not there) product then you

>
> >So what. The (not teh) Heineken site is a completely different

>
> >If you don't want to sign on to Guiness then don't.
> >
> >Personally I think Guiness is one of the better brewers sites...

>
> ObPeeve: Guinness, not Guiness.
> --
> Joel Plutchak "If you got the grits, serve 'em!" - Stanley Crouch
> plutchak at [...]


Yup...my misspelling.

I enjoy a bar towel that says "Don't Forget Your Guinnless"
Not sure, but I think it was part of an advertising campaign.


NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info 23-09-2005 05:13 PM

>Click yes as most of us do and move on

Then you are agreeing to whatever is there on their site; Guinness'
site that is. See I got the right spelling. And the apostrophe in the
right place.


Brendan Halpin 23-09-2005 05:18 PM

writes:

> >Click yes as most of us do and move on

>
> Then you are agreeing to whatever is there on their site; Guinness'
> site that is. See I got the right spelling. And the apostrophe in the
> right place.



But you left off the trailing "s" -- it is canonically and
categorically "Guinness's", whatever your normal practice with
sibilant genitives.

Brendan
--
Brendan Halpin, Department of Sociology, University of Limerick, Ireland
Tel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-338562; Room F2-025 x 3147
http://www.ul.ie/sociology/brendan.halpin.html

NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info 23-09-2005 05:26 PM

> But you left off the trailing "s" -- it is canonically and
categorically "Guinness's",

Is that how they do it. Thomas' English Muffins is used as seen here.
Gramatically it can be done either way.


John S. 23-09-2005 07:13 PM


wrote:
> >Click yes as most of us do and move on

>
> Then you are agreeing to whatever is there on their site; Guinness'
> site that is. See I got the right spelling. And the apostrophe in the
> right place.


When I scan through the two links all I find are the usual boilerplate
terms and conditions of usage. What is there about the language that
you find so distasteful. Or do you find it difficult to read/scan
stuff like that quickly.

I'm not particularly concerned about terms and conditions imposed by a
major company like Guiness since I don't plan on doing anything
illegal. I'm not particularly concerned that they might drop a few
cookies on my pc since I clear that stuff regularly anyway.


NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info 26-09-2005 12:27 AM

John S. wrote:

> I'm not particularly concerned about terms and conditions imposed by a
> major company like Guiness


Your lack of concern in this instance is probably justified.

HOWEVER, I ALWAYS make it a practice to read evey word of agreements
before agreeing with them.

Those who don't may get spyware such as ke-loggers.


John S. 26-09-2005 07:13 PM


wrote:
> John S. wrote:
>
> > I'm not particularly concerned about terms and conditions imposed by a
> > major company like Guiness

>
> Your lack of concern in this instance is probably justified.


And I'm not alone.

>
> HOWEVER, I ALWAYS make it a practice to read evey word of agreements
> before agreeing with them.


Pretty time consuming to be reading the same boilerplate over and
over....you must hit one or two websites a day.

>
> Those who don't may get spyware such as ke-loggers.


Anyone who surfs the net should run at least two of the big spyware
killer programs regularly. Most of that stuff does little more than
slow your machine down, but I kill it once a week.


NOTvalid@XmasNYC.Info 01-10-2005 07:32 PM

I use AdAware
and
Spybot

It is less then twice a month that I need to read thru and agree to
WWW/company polices.



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