I'm looking for a stout that is similar to Mackeson XXX. Tried some St.
Peters Cream Stout the other day and that was close, but not quite
there. Any suggestions? TIA.

Hook Norton Double Stout ?


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"J Buck" > wrote in message
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> I'm looking for a stout that is similar to Mackeson XXX. Tried some St.
> Peters Cream Stout the other day and that was close, but not quite
> there. Any suggestions? TIA.
>

(J*Buck) wrote:

> I'm looking for a stout that is similar to
> Mackeson XXX. Tried some St. Peters Cream
> Stout the other day and that was close, but
> not quite there. Any suggestions? TIA.

As I recall (haven't tried it in ten years or so), Dragon Stout, from
Desnoes and Geddes in Jamaica, has a flavor profile similar to
Mackeson's.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/dragon-stout/749/4608/

(It's surprising that sweet stout is one style that doesn't seem to have
many exemplars among US craft brewers.)

Alan Follett
Hercules, CA

Alan Follett wrote:

> It's surprising that sweet stout is one style that doesn't seem to have
> many exemplars among US craft brewers.

Well, that and mild. Both on the low end of alcohol content, not
coincidentally. (Even the few milds we get from the UK tend to be on
the high end of the scale.)

It's surprises me somewhat that at the same time the "new
prohibitionists" are attacking alcohol use, that brewers and retailers
have increased both alcohol content and the size of a typical serving of
draft beer. I wouldn't mind having a 7 oz. beer once in awhile
(especially in a bar with a good draft selection) or a good "session"
beer. Instead, many bars have a choice of a "pint" (granted, it's
really only 14 oz.) OR 22 oz. And we get people moaning that their
particular state doesn't allow "real" beer because there's a limit on
alcohol in beer - hey, I like a number of high alcohol beers and don't
think the state should limit beers based on alcohol content (or any
other factor) but that doesn't mean there isn't "real" beer with 5% or
less alcohol.

> wrote in message
news
> It's surprises me somewhat that at the same time the "new prohibitionists"
> are attacking alcohol use, that brewers and retailers have increased both
> alcohol content and the size of a typical serving of draft beer. I
> wouldn't mind having a 7 oz. beer once in awhile (especially in a bar with
> a good draft selection) or a good "session" beer. Instead, many bars have
> a choice of a "pint" (granted, it's really only 14 oz.) OR 22 oz. And we
> get people moaning that their particular state doesn't allow "real" beer
> because there's a limit on alcohol in beer - hey, I like a number of high
> alcohol beers and don't think the state should limit beers based on
> alcohol content (or any other factor) but that doesn't mean there isn't
> "real" beer with 5% or less alcohol.

Hear, hear! Well-said, and why don't no one listen? There are a few places
like this, and mostly I hear bad things about them from geek-types: "Boring
beer" and "won't serve a proper pint." Boring geeks, I say, who wouldn't
know a "proper" pint if it bit them on the arse.

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Lew Bryson wrote:
> > wrote in message
> news
>> It's surprises me somewhat that at the same time the "new
>> prohibitionists" are attacking alcohol use, that brewers and
>> retailers have increased both alcohol content and the size of a
>> typical serving of draft beer. I wouldn't mind having a 7 oz. beer
>> once in awhile (especially in a bar with a good draft selection) or
>> a good "session" beer. Instead, many bars have a choice of a "pint"
>> (granted, it's really only 14 oz.) OR 22 oz. And we get people
>> moaning that their particular state doesn't allow "real" beer
>> because there's a limit on alcohol in beer - hey, I like a number of
>> high alcohol beers and don't think the state should limit beers
>> based on alcohol content (or any other factor) but that doesn't mean
>> there isn't "real" beer with 5% or less alcohol.
>
> Hear, hear! Well-said, and why don't no one listen? There are a few
> places like this, and mostly I hear bad things about them from
> geek-types: "Boring beer" and "won't serve a proper pint." Boring
> geeks, I say, who wouldn't know a "proper" pint if it bit them on the
> arse.

The 7-8 oz glasses at the Grey Lodge Pub are the perfect way to sample a
bunch of their tap beers without getting too big of a buzz.

--
John

O.B. Juan wrote:
>
>
> The 7-8 oz glasses at the Grey Lodge Pub are the perfect way to sample a
> bunch of their tap beers without getting too big of a buzz.
>

Yeah, but it's a 40+ mile trip for me...

When a friend and I went to the UK about 20 years ago, we went pretty
much for the real ale. ( "So, did you see the changing of the Guard at
Buckingham Palace?" "Yeah, on the way to a pub." "So, did you see
Stonehedge?" "Yeah, we stayed in a pub nearby...".) Jumped off the
plane, into a rental car and hit a bookstore for The Good Beer Guide and
off we went.

At some point we were told (or read) that drinking half pints was
considered "feminine". Ah, **** it, when we hit a "free house" pub
with a lot of interesting beers, we drank half pints. And we noticed
that all those macho guys with their big pint glasses were still holding
onto the same pour as when we got there, and we'd already gone through 3
or 4 halves.

(When we FINALLY found bottles of Whitbread Gold Label and, later,
Imperial Russian Stout we were told that "old ladies" drink that. Wish
I could say I remember than the guy was drinking a pint of Carling
"lager", but it's too long ago for such detail...).

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 02:59:40 GMT, "Lew Bryson"
> wrote:

> wrote in message
>news
>> It's surprises me somewhat that at the same time the "new prohibitionists"
>> are attacking alcohol use, that brewers and retailers have increased both
>> alcohol content and the size of a typical serving of draft beer. I
>> wouldn't mind having a 7 oz. beer once in awhile (especially in a bar with
>> a good draft selection) or a good "session" beer. Instead, many bars have
>> a choice of a "pint" (granted, it's really only 14 oz.) OR 22 oz. And we
>> get people moaning that their particular state doesn't allow "real" beer
>> because there's a limit on alcohol in beer - hey, I like a number of high
>> alcohol beers and don't think the state should limit beers based on
>> alcohol content (or any other factor) but that doesn't mean there isn't
>> "real" beer with 5% or less alcohol.
>
>Hear, hear! Well-said, and why don't no one listen? There are a few places
>like this, and mostly I hear bad things about them from geek-types: "Boring
>beer" and "won't serve a proper pint." Boring geeks, I say, who wouldn't
>know a "proper" pint if it bit them on the arse.
>

Boulevard in KC made a bitter called Ten Penny that was less than
3.2%abw. It received a similar reaction. I heard people slag it for
the low alcohol, although it had plenty of flavor. They eventually
stopped making it.

I tend to go for draft Guinness, if I'm driving or need to keep my
wits about me.


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Lawrence (KS) Brewers Guild
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