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Missouri lawmaker seeks to ban sale of cold beer
By CHRIS BLANK
Associated Press Writer

A state senator wants to force Missouri stores to sell warm beer.

Under a bill by Sen. Bill Alter, grocery and convenience stores would
risk losing their liquor licenses if they sold beer colder than 60
degrees. The intent is to cut down on drunken driving by making it
less tempting to pop open a beer after leaving the store. “The only
reason why beer would need to be cold is so that it can be consumed
right away,” Alter, who has been a police offer for more than 20
years, said Thursday.

He said the idea came from a fifth-grade student in Jefferson County
who was participating in a program to teach elementary students about
state government. He sought their suggestions for new laws and chose
the cold beer ban from a list of the top three ideas. “I thought it
had the best chance at getting legislative attention,” said Alter,
R-High Ridge. “Plus, I think it's a good idea whether or not other
people do.”...

Alter said the student who suggested the legislation would be a
witness at the bill's hearing, which hasn't been scheduled. Last year,
a fourth-grade class from Kansas City submitted a proposal to make the
American bullfrog the state amphibian. It passed in the final moments
of the 2005 legislative session.

Alter said the jump from naming state animals to restricting how
alcohol can be purchased didn't really surprise him. “You never know
what's on the mind of young kids - some of them are pretty smart,” he
said...

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: Missouri lawmaker seeks to ban sale of cold beer
: By CHRIS BLANK
: Associated Press Writer
:
: A state senator wants to force Missouri stores to sell warm beer.

: Under a bill by Sen. Bill Alter, grocery and convenience stores would
: risk losing their liquor licenses if they sold beer colder than 60
: degrees. The intent is to cut down on drunken driving by making it
: less tempting to pop open a beer after leaving the store. ?The only
: reason why beer would need to be cold is so that it can be consumed
: right away,? Alter, who has been a police offer for more than 20
: years, said Thursday.


My gawd - this Senator is a blundering idiot! What if you live right
next door to the store, or in a nearby neighborhood minutes away?
It's politician's like this that shouldn't be in office.
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>>>>> A state senator wants to force Missouri stores to sell warm beer.

I guess he thinks people should drink beer that is rotten:
http://www.evansale.com/fresh_beer_article.html


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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:32:53 -0600, jag > wrote:
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>Under a bill by Sen. Bill Alter, grocery and convenience stores would
>risk losing their liquor licenses if they sold beer colder than 60
>degrees. The intent is to cut down on drunken driving by making it
>less tempting to pop open a beer after leaving the store.


The byzantine US liquor laws have always seemed crazy to outsiders,
and now we know why - they're dreamt up by high school kids! Explains
a lot :-)

Hopefully somebody will point out to this clown that:

1. Drinking one can of Bud while driving won't make you drunk (not
that I'm advocating it)
2. People who just want to get drunk don't care about beer temperature
3. Many beers aren't supposed to be drunk chilled anyway
4. Effective enforcement of drink-driving laws is likely to be a more
effective approach

Best regards, Paul
--
Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk
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Paul Sherwin > wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:32:53 -0600, jag > wrote:
>>Under a bill by Sen. Bill Alter, grocery and convenience stores would
>>risk losing their liquor licenses if they sold beer colder than 60
>>degrees. The intent is to cut down on drunken driving by making it
>>less tempting to pop open a beer after leaving the store.

>
>The byzantine US liquor laws have always seemed crazy to outsiders,
>and now we know why - they're dreamt up by high school kids! Explains
>a lot :-)


Not even high school-- elementary school.

>Hopefully somebody will point out to this clown that:
>
>1. Drinking one can of Bud while driving won't make you drunk (not
>that I'm advocating it)
>2. People who just want to get drunk don't care about beer temperature
>3. Many beers aren't supposed to be drunk chilled anyway
>4. Effective enforcement of drink-driving laws is likely to be a more
>effective approach


You forgot:

5. Beer is a fragile food item and is best stored cold.
--
Joel Plutchak "Prescriptive lexicographers enjoy being grumpy.
They spend a lot of time denouncing words and
explaining what the rules used to be."
- Richard Bready, Encarta


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>A state senator wants to force Missouri stores to sell warm beer.

Eh - they do this in Oklahoma right now for beers over 3.2% by weight,
i.e. any beer purchased in a liquor store which sort of defaults to 99%
craft and import beers. Bud, Miller and Coors all make 3.2 variations
for sale in grocery stores and the like. I suppose Guinness Draught
qualifies asswell being in the 4.1 ABV range.

It sure does suck walking past case after case of beers from Sierra
Nevada and Anchor and others with large print on the outside: "KEEP
REFRIGERATED" in a hot as hell liquor store in the middle of summer at
my Dad's house in Tulsa. Ah well, it's these little things that make me
glad I got the hell out.

_Randal

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