I am Jonesing for a Kitchenaid Professional 600 mixer, and I've been
looking at ebay listings for one. The Kitchenaid company sells
refurbished units there, and they make a disclaimer that the
Professional 600 is not the Pro 6 that comes with free shippping. So,
this begs the question, what is the difference between a Professional
600 and a Pro 6? I have seen the former sold everywhere, but I have
never seen a model or box called a Pro 6.

On to the comment...The Professional 600 retails for 499, but almost
always is on sale for 399. On ebay, the final auction price is around
300, and with shipping it is around 330. So, your savings is about
$70, for a unit in a color that you probably didn't want in the first
place. I don't think this is a great deal, and I think that buying
new from a retailer or online might be a better choice, unless you are
just purchasing the unit for pure utility. Just my thoughts.

Todd

> wrote in message
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>I am Jonesing for a Kitchenaid Professional 600 mixer, and I've been
> looking at ebay listings for one. The Kitchenaid company sells
> refurbished units there, and they make a disclaimer that the
> Professional 600 is not the Pro 6 that comes with free shippping. So,
> this begs the question, what is the difference between a Professional
> 600 and a Pro 6? I have seen the former sold everywhere, but I have
> never seen a model or box called a Pro 6.
>
> On to the comment...The Professional 600 retails for 499, but almost
> always is on sale for 399. On ebay, the final auction price is around
> 300, and with shipping it is around 330. So, your savings is about
> $70, for a unit in a color that you probably didn't want in the first
> place. I don't think this is a great deal, and I think that buying
> new from a retailer or online might be a better choice, unless you are
> just purchasing the unit for pure utility. Just my thoughts.
>
> Todd

Personally, I would opt for the Professional 600, even though it is a higher
price than the mixer on eBay. I'm always a little apprehensive about
refurbished units and don't feel the lower price is worth it. Is there a
warranty?
Just my 2 cents.

Dora

On Mar 4, 3:04 pm, "limey" > wrote:
> > wrote in message

>
> Personally, I would opt for the Professional 600, even though it is a higher
> price than the mixer on eBay. I'm always a little apprehensive about
> refurbished units and don't feel the lower price is worth it. Is there a
> warranty?
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Dora- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not knowing anything about the Professional 600 or Pro 6, I will add
my 2 cents. I had a KA mixer which I took to a authorized KA repair
station. They said that it would cost $257? to repair. The only KA
they had in stock was a refurbished one, which I bought. Not long
afterwards, I had to have repair, so I sent it back to the KA place,
in Ohio, I believe. As I recall it cost $25 to mail it to them,
nothing for return mail, but the charge of $100 or maybe it was more,
I can't recall now, (they said that they were giving us a good price)
added more to my refurbished price.

At the time I had to make my decision whether or not to buy the
refurbished one they offered, the charge for "opening up/analyzing the
problem, etc.) was almost as much as buying the refurbished one (they
knocked off the charge for the "opening up..." when I bought the
refurbished one), so that's how I got the refurbished one.

Buying the refurbished one was not a pleasant experience for me.
However, our first computer was an online Sony refurbish, our first
PDA was an online refurbish. DH makes these decisions.
Dee

"limey" > wrote in message
> I'm always a little apprehensive about refurbished units and don't feel
> the lower price is worth it. Is there a warranty?
> Just my 2 cents.

Most of the "refurbished" items for sale are brand new fresh from the
factory items. They stamp them "refurbished" so they can sell them cheaper
that their regular distribution channels can. Just like some of the
"irregulars" in clothing lines sold at outlet stores.

On Mar 4, 10:28 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
> Most of the "refurbished" items for sale are brand new fresh from the
> factory items. They stamp them "refurbished" so they can sell them cheaper
> that their regular distribution channels can. Just like some of the
> "irregulars" in clothing lines sold at outlet stores.

This is what I've always heard, and I don't know how proveable it is.
Even so, I've based a few refurbished purchases on this information.
I set my price limits; say, if a $200 item (at the best price
available) is selling refurbished at $150, I'll probably go for the
new $200. I don't know at what percentage I'd stop. But still, there
are so many other factors about the item that would factor into the
decision.

And, for instance, I would never buy a re-furbished camera -- DH
would. He seems to think they've all been checked out.
Dee

> Personally, I would opt for the Professional 600, even though it is a
> higher price than the mixer on eBay. I'm always a little apprehensive
> about refurbished units and don't feel the lower price is worth it.
> Is there a warranty?

Is this through the KA refurb store on ebay? If so, compare it to the
store attached to the KA website. There are sometimes differences in
price, shipping and "deals." When I bought mine, the difference in bottom
line price (including shipping) between the two "storefronts" was
significant.

It comes with a 6 month warranty vs a one year for factory new. I save
well over $100, which allowed me to get the grinder & large tray, pasta
extruder, two extra bowls and a few other things.

It's been my experience with refurbs that they will either fail in the
first month, or you'll get normal (or near normal) life out of them.



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On Mar 4, 10:42 am, wrote:
> I am Jonesing for a Kitchenaid Professional 600 mixer, and I've been
> looking at ebay listings for one. The Kitchenaid company sells
> refurbished units there, and they make a disclaimer that the
> Professional 600 is not the Pro 6 that comes with free shippping. So,
> this begs the question, what is the difference between a Professional
> 600 and a Pro 6? I have seen the former sold everywhere, but I have
> never seen a model or box called a Pro 6.
>
> On to the comment...The Professional 600 retails for 499, but almost
> always is on sale for 399. On ebay, the final auction price is around
> 300, and with shipping it is around 330. So, your savings is about
> $70, for a unit in a color that you probably didn't want in the first
> place. I don't think this is a great deal, and I think that buying
> new from a retailer or online might be a better choice, unless you are
> just purchasing the unit for pure utility. Just my thoughts.
>
> Todd

A piece of equipment I use a lot, like my bread machine, I'd hesitate
to buy a used or refurbished model. A piece of equipment that has a
lot of computer parts thatwould potentially cause me heartache if it
broke, like a camera, I'd buy new. If my mixer or food processor,
things I use only 1 time a month, broke I wouldn't hesitate to buy a
refurbished or used one. If the equipment sits on a counter for me to
see often, color would be a consideration. (I can see myself shoving
the equipment in an awkward place of reach, thus not using it, if the
color bothered me.) If I can fit the equipment in a cupboard, I
wouldn't hesitate to buy something discounted because of a color that
isn't selling well.

Donna

On 5 Mar 2007 04:44:06 -0800, "Jahosacat" >
wrote:

>On Mar 4, 10:42 am, wrote:
>> I am Jonesing for a Kitchenaid Professional 600 mixer, and I've been
>> looking at ebay listings for one. The Kitchenaid company sells
>> refurbished units there, and they make a disclaimer that the
>> Professional 600 is not the Pro 6 that comes with free shippping. So,
>> this begs the question, what is the difference between a Professional
>> 600 and a Pro 6? I have seen the former sold everywhere, but I have
>> never seen a model or box called a Pro 6.
>>
>> On to the comment...The Professional 600 retails for 499, but almost
>> always is on sale for 399. On ebay, the final auction price is around
>> 300, and with shipping it is around 330. So, your savings is about
>> $70, for a unit in a color that you probably didn't want in the first
>> place. I don't think this is a great deal, and I think that buying
>> new from a retailer or online might be a better choice, unless you are
>> just purchasing the unit for pure utility. Just my thoughts.
>>
>> Todd
>
>A piece of equipment I use a lot, like my bread machine, I'd hesitate
>to buy a used or refurbished model. A piece of equipment that has a
>lot of computer parts thatwould potentially cause me heartache if it
>broke, like a camera, I'd buy new. If my mixer or food processor,
>things I use only 1 time a month, broke I wouldn't hesitate to buy a
>refurbished or used one. If the equipment sits on a counter for me to
>see often, color would be a consideration. (I can see myself shoving
>the equipment in an awkward place of reach, thus not using it, if the
>color bothered me.) If I can fit the equipment in a cupboard, I
>wouldn't hesitate to buy something discounted because of a color that
>isn't selling well.
>
>Donna


If the price is right and the color is bad, make covers for the
appliances.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Just to get back to my original question, I copied this off of one of
Kitchenaid's listings on ebay. This is what the item description
says:

KitchenAid Stand Mixer Pro 600 6Qt Brass Pearl

And this is a disclaimer below it:

Please note that this is NOT the same as a Pro 6 Qt. stand mixer,
therefore it DOES NOT qualify for free shipping.

Tell me, what is the difference between a Pro 600 and a Pro 6? This
is the riddle of the day.

BTW, I found a retailer on Froogle and another on ebay that sells
these, in the color you want, for less than 299, brand new, so you
don't have buy refurbished if you don't want to.

On 5 Mar 2007 06:35:41 -0800, wrote:

>Just to get back to my original question, I copied this off of one of
>Kitchenaid's listings on ebay. This is what the item description
>says:
>
>KitchenAid Stand Mixer Pro 600 6Qt Brass Pearl
>
>And this is a disclaimer below it:
>
>Please note that this is NOT the same as a Pro 6 Qt. stand mixer,
>therefore it DOES NOT qualify for free shipping.
>
>Tell me, what is the difference between a Pro 600 and a Pro 6? This
>is the riddle of the day.
>
>BTW, I found a retailer on Froogle and another on ebay that sells
>these, in the color you want, for less than 299, brand new, so you
>don't have buy refurbished if you don't want to.

Here are descriptions of both of the machines on the Kitchenaid
refurbished site. The Pro 6 Qt is not shown as being currently
available new.


http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/produc...KTA+RKP2671XGR

http://www.shopkitchenaid.com/produc...KTA+RKP26M1XPM
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Ok, it looks like the Pro 6 is the precursor to the Professional 600.
The former has 525 watts of power, the latter 575.

For all of you who are looking for a Kitchenaid, it appears that
listings by Big Buy City on eBay for 299.95 are the best deal around,
and you get to pick your color!

On 5 Mar 2007 18:31:53 -0800, wrote:

>Ok, it looks like the Pro 6 is the precursor to the Professional 600.
>The former has 525 watts of power, the latter 575.

....and for some reason, the bowl's handle has shifted to the left on the 600.
And the dough hook has changed. Also, you can't get the dark grey crackle color
any more.

-- Larry (loves his dark grey crackle... 8 )

On 5 Mar 2007 18:31:53 -0800, wrote:

>Ok, it looks like the Pro 6 is the precursor to the Professional 600.
>The former has 525 watts of power, the latter 575.
>
>For all of you who are looking for a Kitchenaid, it appears that
>listings by Big Buy City on eBay for 299.95 are the best deal around,
>and you get to pick your color!
>

I did one better. I bought a Hobart Kitchenaid K5 last night on Ebay.
It has no bowl or beaters, but as a backup to my present one, I
consider it a great deal.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

In article > ,
"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:

> "limey" > wrote in message
> > I'm always a little apprehensive about refurbished units and don't feel
> > the lower price is worth it. Is there a warranty?
> > Just my 2 cents.
>
> Most of the "refurbished" items for sale are brand new fresh from the
> factory items. They stamp them "refurbished" so they can sell them cheaper
> that their regular distribution channels can. Just like some of the
> "irregulars" in clothing lines sold at outlet stores.

I'm a little late jumping in on this, but ....

When a customer buys something, takes it home and opens the box, if they
return it for ANY reason, it cannot be resold as new. At this point,
high ticket items like KA mixers go back to the factory where they are
checked (usually nothing elaborate), all parts are washed and/or wipe as
appropriate, and the box is stamped Refurb.

If a machine is returned as defective and the retailer fails to pass on
the relevant info to the refurb center, the test may not catch the
problem in their test. And all it takes is for one person to get that
defective unit as a refurb and have a bad experience, and then they get
the word out and a company's refurb line can suffer. A company worth
its stock index price will bend over backwards to rectify those rare
problems, but it usually takes a little more upward persistence on
communication to get such problems fixed.

That said, I have a refurb KA Epicurean (the 475 watt top of the line
consumer model before the 525 watt Professional came out) that I bought
for a Holy Smeg deal of $114 due to the $169 speacial purchase price
being discounted 10% and my then employee discount of %15 on top of
that. I got this several years ago and the machine has not given me a
ounce of trouble. (FWIW, I also have a 325 watt Ultra, and I bounce
back and forth between which of the two I use, and at Thanksgiving, it
is so nice having both at the same time.)

jt

In article om>,
wrote:

> Ok, it looks like the Pro 6 is the precursor to the Professional 600.
> The former has 525 watts of power, the latter 575.
>
> For all of you who are looking for a Kitchenaid, it appears that
> listings by Big Buy City on eBay for 299.95 are the best deal around,
> and you get to pick your color!

I'm a little behind on this thread as I just added this group to my news
reader's list. That having been said ....

I clicked on the links a bit back in this thread, and both of the
machines (Proffessional and Pro 6) were priced at $239 for a refurb.

A bit of history from when I used to work for a May dept. store in St.
Louis:

About 8 or more years ago, the top of the line consumer model was the
Epicurean at 475 watts.

It was replaced with the Professional at 525 watts.

Then that was replaced with the Pro 6 at 575 watts (the 6 representing 6
quarts, by the way).

All three models are bowl lift design, and can use any bowl made for
that design (5 quarts, 6 quarts, ice cream maker). the only caveat is
that you must use a beater, whisk or dough hook for the given bowl size,
and the geometries of the mixing elements are contoured to match the
geometries of the bowl. That said, and 6 quart beater will work with
any 6 quart bowl, even if the bowl is 30 years old and the beater is
brand new.

jt