New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
-- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?

Tnx -- Larry

New Kitchen Aid *1000* watt stand mixer?
 

(typo in title...)

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:29:40 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

>Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
>tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
>-- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?
>
>Tnx -- Larry

New Kitchen Aid *1000* watt stand mixer?
 

In article >,
pltrgyst > wrote:

> (typo in title...)
>
> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:29:40 -0400, pltrgyst >
> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7
> >qt,
> >tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the
> >Kenwoods
> >-- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?

I looked about on the WS site, and searched around on the net. I even
tried the KA site. I got nuttin. Anyone else find anything?

jt

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

On Jun 4, 11:29 am, pltrgyst > wrote:
> Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
> tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
> -- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?
>
> Tnx -- Larry


I don't know about the 1,000 watt, but I am very negative about any
KitchenAid mixer. I will be buying a Electrolux (sounds like a vacuum
clearner, I know) in the next few weeks. Now KitchenAid food
processor, I love it far and above Cuisinart. I mention this just so
one won't think I'm biased against KA.

Larry, I see a box-y Cuisinart mixer 1,000 watt at WS.
Dee

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

In article . com>,
Dee Dee > wrote:

> I don't know about the 1,000 watt, but I am very negative about any
> KitchenAid mixer. I will be buying a Electrolux (sounds like a vacuum
> clearner, I know) in the next few weeks. Now KitchenAid food
> processor, I love it far and above Cuisinart. I mention this just so
> one won't think I'm biased against KA.

May I ask why you have a distaste for the KA mixers? I ask as one who
has two (#1 is a lift head Ultra, #2 is a bowl lift Epicurean) and I
love both of them.

jt

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

On Jun 5, 1:14 am, jt august > wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Dee Dee > wrote:
>
> > I don't know about the 1,000 watt, but I am very negative about any
> > KitchenAid mixer. I will be buying a Electrolux (sounds like a vacuum
> > clearner, I know) in the next few weeks. Now KitchenAid food
> > processor, I love it far and above Cuisinart. I mention this just so
> > one won't think I'm biased against KA.
>
> May I ask why you have a distaste for the KA mixers? I ask as one who
> has two (#1 is a lift head Ultra, #2 is a bowl lift Epicurean) and I
> love both of them.
>
I've had nothing but problems over the years with the ones I've
bought, don't ask me why I kept punishing myself.... But I won't
anymore.

The LAST straw came 5-4 when I ws making a croccodillo bread, which I
had planned researched the correct flour, had it shipped, etc. The
third day of fermenting, I used the mixer and there was metal pieces
in my dough as I poured it out. Yes, it came from the mixer. The
last fiasco was oil running out into dough. I'm tired of dealing with
KA, their returns, their offers, their promises, their charges.

I've had several since 1975. Others can praise theirs to high heaven,
but my experience has been the other side of the coin. When I started
researching something else to buy, I certainly got a lot of astonished
opinions about my experiences (shortened of course due to time
constraints ;-))).

I envy you your satisfaction.
Dee

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:26:53 -0700, Dee Dee > wrote:

>The LAST straw came 5-4 when I ws making a croccodillo bread, which I
>had planned researched the correct flour, had it shipped, etc. The
>third day of fermenting, I used the mixer and there was metal pieces
>in my dough as I poured it out. Yes, it came from the mixer. The
>last fiasco was oil running out into dough. I'm tired of dealing with
>KA, their returns, their offers, their promises, their charges.
>
>I've had several since 1975. Others can praise theirs to high heaven,
>but my experience has been the other side of the coin. When I started
>researching something else to buy, I certainly got a lot of astonished
>opinions about my experiences (shortened of course due to time
>constraints ;-))).
>
>I envy you your satisfaction.

Dee, you must be a KA disaster magnet! So I want to thank you for absorbing all
those bad experiences so that others of us could be problem-free. 8;)

-- Larry (2 KAs since 1970, no problems -- but still admiring the Kenwood
design...)

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

On Jun 5, 9:54 am, pltrgyst > wrote:

>
> Dee, you must be a KA disaster magnet! So I want to thank you for absorbing all
> those bad experiences so that others of us could be problem-free. 8;)
>
> -- Larry (2 KAs since 1970, no problems -- but still admiring the Kenwood
> design...)


I realize you are right; I'm the 1%, over-over-over-over and over-
again.
LOL. Your humour is not wasted on me.
Smiling-ly,
Dee

New Kitchen Aid *1000* watt stand mixer?
 

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:23:38 -0400, pltrgyst
> wrote:

>(typo in title...)
>
>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:29:40 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:
>
>>Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
>>tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
>>-- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?

Larry..........you sure you don't even have a typo with the brand? WS
is featuring a CUISINART 12 speed 7QT 1000W mixer on page 36.

KitchenAid doesn't even list that mixer on their own website let alone
a Hobart site.

All I can say is Cuisinart need to stick with food processors. The
rest of their attempts in the kitchen have been so-so.

New Kitchen Aid *1000* watt stand mixer?
 

Ward Abbott wrote:
>
> All I can say is Cuisinart need to stick with food processors. The
> rest of their attempts in the kitchen have been so-so.

Agreed. I like my food processor very much. However, I have their
toaster with all the buttons. It can't even toast a decent slice of
bread. It toasts very unevenly..

I bought their burr grinder for coffee. Not too happy with it - I
think my little inexpensive Braun does a better job.

Dora

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

pltrgyst wrote:

>
> -- Larry (2 KAs since 1970, no problems -- but still admiring the Kenwood
> design...)
>
I'm still using my first KA - I think it's about 28 years old now.
And, in another kitchen, I have a Kenwood. They're both very good machines.

New Kitchen Aid *1000* watt stand mixer?
 

In article >,
Ward Abbott > wrote:

> Larry..........you sure you don't even have a typo with the brand? WS
> is featuring a CUISINART 12 speed 7QT 1000W mixer on page 36.

I just took a look see at this on the cuisinart site
(http://www.cuisinartstandmixer.com), and I have to say that I am less
than impressed. Due to my past restaurant experience (using stand
mixers that stand on the floor, or at least 3 1/2 feet tall on the prep
table), I prefer to bowl lift design for those larger machines. The
Lift heads just seem clumsier to me - personal preference.

They have a countdown timer on it. I don't get it, why do you need one?
When I use any mixer, I'm there, working it until it is done. If I'm
making cookies or some sort of batter, I'm not going to go off to
another room for an extended period, I'm there, keeping an eye on
everything.

And three "power outlets." One for KA style accessories, two top
mounts, one of which is for food processor and blender, the other for
only a juicer. And most likely, the majority of people who get this
machine will have separate food processors, blenders and juicers.

I think this design is overload of non-necessity. Maybe it's just me.

As to the 1000 watt motor, I have to also know about the transmission to
the beaters too. A big motor on an improperly designed tranny will
result in less power to the blade. I doubt there is any power loss
issue here, but KA's gearing is well established so that motor powers
have relative meaning. With this Cuisinart machine being new to the
market, the power ratio is not yet widely known.

And to the raw power, I would say that there is a point where high end
power loses worth. I have a 475 watt KA mixer with a bowl lift, and I
have yet to try anything that seemed to overload the motor, so I haven't
felt any kind of need or desire to get a Professional (525 watt) or Pro
600 (575 watt), so I certainly don't need to jump to 1000 watts, and
99+% of home cooks won't need that much muscle either.

On the other hand, as this thread has already demonstrated, there are
some who for various reasons do not want or like KA. For them, this
might be a worthy alternative, and should well be explored. Cuisinart
does have a good customer service track record, so that if anyone tries
one of these and has problems, I am sure Cuisinart will not leave them
out in the cold. I have both a Cuisinart food processor I love and the
classic Grind and Brew coffee maker, and both work great for me. Unlike
Krups, who went through some bad quality issues a few years back,
Cuisinart has worked hard to engineer good products, and I have no doubt
they put the engineering behind this machine to justify to price.

It's simply that it is so new, that I would want to wait for Consumer
Reports or some cooking mags.

BTW: I just watched the promo video from the web site, and the thing is
HUGE. Much bigger foot print than my Epicurean. And the motor housing
raises up like a draw bridge. It looks like it is well balanced,
because the ladies in the video don't appear to be struggling when they
lift it up.

And one other BTW: I was looking at the blender, food processor and
juicer attachments, and this thought hit me. The machine is huge, as I
already noted. These attachments, when put on this machine while on a
typical kitchen counter, will be at or above eye level for most people.
Again, I think there is some overkill here.

Just some thoughts, based solely on what i saw on the Cuisinart web site
and its promo videos.

jt

New Kitchen Aid *1000* watt stand mixer?
 

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:37:04 -0400, Ward Abbott > wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:23:38 -0400, pltrgyst
> wrote:
>
>>(typo in title...)
>>
>>On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:29:40 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
>>>tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
>>>-- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?
>
>Larry..........you sure you don't even have a typo with the brand? WS
>is featuring a CUISINART 12 speed 7QT 1000W mixer on page 36.

Yes, you are right - I meant Cuisinart, but automatically typed KA when thinking
of stand mixers. Sorry.

-- Larry

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

On Jun 4, 10:29 am, pltrgyst > wrote:
> Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
> tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
> -- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?
>
> Tnx -- Larry

Haven't seen one. Not sure I want to.

Seems like the mixer-folks have taken a cue from the super-size
automobile crowd. What's next... the bush-bar attachment?

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

"S Viemeister" > pltrgyst wrote:
>
>>
>> -- Larry (2 KAs since 1970, no problems -- but still admiring the Kenwood
>> design...)
> >
> I'm still using my first KA - I think it's about 28 years old now.
> And, in another kitchen, I have a Kenwood. They're both very good
> machines.

I too am still using my first Kitchenaid and it's still going strong. I'd
guess it's about 20 years old. Mine was among the last made by the Hobart
people and I'm sure yours was too.

I've read Kitchenaids started going downhill when Hobart discontinued making
the home models.

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

>>>> -- Larry (2 KAs since 1970, no problems -- but still admiring the
>>>> Kenwood design...)
>>>>
>>> I'm still using my first KA - I think it's about 28 years old now.
>>> And, in another kitchen, I have a Kenwood. They're both very good
>>> machines.
>>
>> I too am still using my first Kitchenaid and it's still going strong.
>> I'd guess it's about 20 years old. Mine was among the last made by
>> the Hobart people and I'm sure yours was too.
>>
>> I've read Kitchenaids started going downhill when Hobart discontinued
>> making the home models.
>
> I bought mine in 1987 and don't know whether Hobart made my model or
> whether they'd sold by that time. I think a lot of the complaints have
> occurred since Whirlpool bought KA, during the 1990s, I believe.
>
> Dora

Dora,

If you look at your KA, towards the back on the left-hand side of the
machine there should be a metal label that says "made by Hobart".

Sounds like from your time frame (twenty years ago) that it was probably
made by Hobart.

Chris in Pearland, TX

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

On Jun 4, 10:29 am, pltrgyst > wrote:
> Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
> tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
> -- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?
>

It does look a whole lot like the 7 qt Kenwood - so much so that I am
pretty sure there is a common lineage. Assuming it is a whole lot
like the Kenwood with some new features added and updated styling.

My thoughts on our Kenwood, which we have had for a few years:

1) It is big and heavy - not something you want to have to drag out
of a cabinet to use. It is best left on the counter.

2) The 7 qt bowl is tall. You look at it and think it is silly to
use it to whip a bit of cream or a few egg whites, but by virtue of
the tall narrow shape, it works fine on small amounts.

3) It is strong. I have never really seen it strain kneading pasta
dough or bread dough, but I know we aren't as hard on mixers as some.
We don't make huge bread dough batches.

4) It is loud. Very loud - the worst feature of the whole thing.

5) We have the meat grinder attachment. I can't compare it with
others, but I can say it works fine and has given me no problems.

6) The speed control is great - it goes from off to 10 (sorry, no 11)
in one smooth motion, with it being very easy to set it at a very low
speed. It is no problem to keep dry ingredients in the bowl and not
floating about the kitchen.

7) The head tilt is well designed and built. It uses a spring of
sorts to balance it. To raise the head, there is a knob you turn
which releases the thing, and it comes up on its own - not too fast,
not too slow. To lower it, you push it down against the spring until
the catch clicks.

8) The planetary motion works well. It covers the whole bowl with
little fuss.

9) The metal bowl seems seriously overdesigned. It is very thick and
heavy. The plastic bowl works fine, and it is a real convenience to
have two bowls.

Later,
Mark Muller

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

New Kitchen Aid 100-watt stand mixer?
 

On Jun 4, 10:29 am, pltrgyst > wrote:
> Has anyone bought or fondled the new Kitchen Aid 1,000 watt stand mixer -- 7 qt,
> tilting head, electronic controls and timer, styling somewhat like the Kenwoods
> -- featured in the latest Williams Sonoma catalog? Opinions?
>

It does look a whole lot like the 7 qt Kenwood - so much so that I am
pretty sure there is a common lineage. Assuming it is a whole lot
like the Kenwood with some new features added and updated styling.

My thoughts on our Kenwood, which we have had for a few years:

1) It is big and heavy - not something you want to have to drag out
of a cabinet to use. It is best left on the counter.

2) The 7 qt bowl is tall. You look at it and think it is silly to
use it to whip a bit of cream or a few egg whites, but by virtue of
the tall narrow shape, it works fine on small amounts.

3) It is strong. I have never really seen it strain kneading pasta
dough or bread dough, but I know we aren't as hard on mixers as some.
We don't make huge bread dough batches.

4) It is loud. Very loud - the worst feature of the whole thing.

5) We have the meat grinder attachment. I can't compare it with
others, but I can say it works fine and has given me no problems.

6) The speed control is great - it goes from off to 10 (sorry, no 11)
in one smooth motion, with it being very easy to set it at a very low
speed. It is no problem to keep dry ingredients in the bowl and not
floating about the kitchen.

7) The head tilt is well designed and built. It uses a spring of
sorts to balance it. To raise the head, there is a knob you turn
which releases the thing, and it comes up on its own - not too fast,
not too slow. To lower it, you push it down against the spring until
the catch clicks.

8) The planetary motion works well. It covers the whole bowl with
little fuss.

9) The metal bowl seems seriously overdesigned. It is very thick and
heavy. The plastic bowl works fine, and it is a real convenience to
have two bowls.

Later,
Mark Muller