I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
out and ticking me off.

Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?

Again, IAYCAA. "-)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

On Nov 25, 7:54 pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> out and ticking me off.
>
> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?

Better to just have two butter dishes, and leave out a few days worth
of butter at all times. After 22 years of marriage, my wife has
finally stopped compulsively refrigerating the butter.
>
> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ

--Bryan

--Bryan

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)

Ewww!

Is this a ceramic bell? If so, there may be minute cracks in the glaze
that are harboring mold spores.

Empty it, run it through the dishwasher on sani, if you have that
cycle, then soak it in a bleach solution for an hour or so, then run
it through again. Then try using it.

If it molds after that, chuck it or take it back where you got it and
complain and see if you can find a stainless one.

Fantes has this:
http://www.fantes.com/images/120970butter.jpg

Boron

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>out and ticking me off.
>
>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
>Again, IAYCAA. "-)


I just went a-googling and found some mention of it....one
recommendation was to add salt to the water and another was to be
scrupulous about not letting any crumbs get onto the butter.

Are you using sweet butter or salted butter?

Boron

Oh pshaw, on Sun 25 Nov 2007 06:54:37p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...

> I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> out and ticking me off.
>
> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
> Again, IAYCAA. "-)

I would sterilize, then try using bottled or distilled water. You might
want to boil and cool the water first. I can't help but think that the
water may be the primary culprit. I have never had this happen with a
butter bell.

Is yours porcelain or pottery, or is it glass? Mine is heavy glass.

--
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"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>>couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>>container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>>out and ticking me off.
>>
>>Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>>Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
> Ewww!
>
> Is this a ceramic bell? If so, there may be minute cracks in the glaze
> that are harboring mold spores.

If it's made in China, mold spores could be the least of the problems. Some
years back, it was teapots whose inside coating was leaching cadmium.....

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> out and ticking me off.
>
> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ


Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish. I
won't buy that brand anymore.

Ms P

"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within
>>a
>> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> out and ticking me off.
>>
>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>> --
>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>
>
> Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter
> dish. I won't buy that brand anymore.
>
> Ms P
I've never had butter in a dish mold. But it seems to me that water with
any food contamination would be vulnerable to mold. And milk solids
could leach out of the butter if it is in contact with the water.

"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> out and ticking me off.
>>
>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>> --
>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>
>
> Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish.
> I won't buy that brand anymore.
>
> Ms P

I've never seen that happen with LOL butter, after 35 years of using it. The
culprit is more likely to be in your house, not the product.

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "Ms P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>>> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>>> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>>> out and ticking me off.
>>>
>>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>>
>>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>> --
>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>>
>>
>> Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish.
>> I won't buy that brand anymore.
>>
>> Ms P
>
> I've never seen that happen with LOL butter, after 35 years of using it.
> The culprit is more likely to be in your house, not the product.


That might be true if it happened with any other product. The ONLY butter
I've ever had mold was LOL.

Ms P

On Nov 25, 5:54 pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> out and ticking me off.
>
> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?

On another ng, someone had one of these butter containers, and had
nothing but problems, too. I think everyone just told her not to use
it.

Karen

"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> out and ticking me off.
>>
>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>> --
>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>
>
> Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish.
> I won't buy that brand anymore.
>
> Ms P

I buy Challenge and Land O' Lakes salted whipped butter and do not
refrigerate it to keep it spreadable. I don't have a problem with spoilage.

Mitch

"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Ms P" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>>>> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>>>> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>>>> out and ticking me off.
>>>>
>>>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>>>
>>>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>>> --
>>>> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish.
>>> I won't buy that brand anymore.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>> I've never seen that happen with LOL butter, after 35 years of using it.
>> The culprit is more likely to be in your house, not the product.
>
>
> That might be true if it happened with any other product. The ONLY butter
> I've ever had mold was LOL.
>
> Ms P


Something's contaminating it, and it's not likely to be happening at the
plant where it's made. Could be your water, your butter dish, the knife,
etc.

In article >,
Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> > couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> > container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> > out and ticking me off.
> >
> > Whaddaya think is causing it?
>
> Is is made in China?
>
> -sw

Probably.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

In article >,
"Ms P" > wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> > couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> > container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> > out and ticking me off.
> >
> > Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
> >
> > Again, IAYCAA. "-)
> > --
> > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
>
>
> Let me guess, Land O' Lakes? I've had it mold in a regular butter dish. I
> won't buy that brand anymore.
>
> Ms P

Hmmm. Might well be, although I typically have the store brand on hand,
too. I think I may try the store brand in it and see if it's any
better. Apart from this, though, I've NEVER seen mold on butter.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

In article
>,
Karen > wrote:

> On Nov 25, 5:54 pm, Melba's Jammin' >
> wrote:
> > I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> > couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> > container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> > out and ticking me off.
> >
> > Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
> On another ng, someone had one of these butter containers, and had
> nothing but problems, too. I think everyone just told her not to use
> it.
>
> Karen

I know that Gloria Puester here had a problem (not with spoilage) and
stopped using hers.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

In article 4>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> Oh pshaw, on Sun 25 Nov 2007 06:54:37p, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...
>
> > I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> > couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> > container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> > out and ticking me off.
> >
> > Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
> >
> > Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
> I would sterilize, then try using bottled or distilled water. You might
> want to boil and cool the water first. I can't help but think that the
> water may be the primary culprit. I have never had this happen with a
> butter bell.
>
> Is yours porcelain or pottery, or is it glass? Mine is heavy glass.

Glazed pottery. Interesting thought. I think I'll talk to a food
scientist friend about it and see what he says.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

In article >,
Boron Elgar > wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> >out and ticking me off.
> >
> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
> >
> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
>
> I just went a-googling and found some mention of it....one
> recommendation was to add salt to the water and another was to be
> scrupulous about not letting any crumbs get onto the butter.
>
> Are you using sweet butter or salted butter?
>
> Boron

Yes.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

In article >,
Boron Elgar > wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:
>
> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> >out and ticking me off.
> >
> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
> >
> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
> Ewww!
>
> Is this a ceramic bell? If so, there may be minute cracks in the glaze
> that are harboring mold spores.
>
> Empty it, run it through the dishwasher on sani, if you have that
> cycle, then soak it in a bleach solution for an hour or so, then run
> it through again. Then try using it.
>
> If it molds after that, chuck it or take it back where you got it and
> complain and see if you can find a stainless one.
>
> Fantes has this:
> http://www.fantes.com/images/120970butter.jpg
>
> Boron

I'm thinking about the one right below it -- if it uses batteries, it's
gotta be good, doncha think. <g>
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:15:09 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Boron Elgar > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> >out and ticking me off.
>> >
>> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>> >
>> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>
>> Ewww!
>>
>> Is this a ceramic bell? If so, there may be minute cracks in the glaze
>> that are harboring mold spores.
>>
>> Empty it, run it through the dishwasher on sani, if you have that
>> cycle, then soak it in a bleach solution for an hour or so, then run
>> it through again. Then try using it.
>>
>> If it molds after that, chuck it or take it back where you got it and
>> complain and see if you can find a stainless one.
>>
>> Fantes has this:
>> http://www.fantes.com/images/120970butter.jpg
>>
>> Boron
>
>I'm thinking about the one right below it -- if it uses batteries, it's
>gotta be good, doncha think. <g>


What? No USB port?

Boron

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> out and ticking me off.
>
> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
> Again, IAYCAA. "-)
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
> http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

I've read all the posts so far about this thread. Why use a butter bell
in the first place? Does it make any difference to the butter? I've
never seen butter bells - and haven't known about them - until this past
year or so. They now seem to be available in a lot of stores. Is this
a new fad? What's the benefit of the butter bell? Why is it different
than a butter dish?

I keep my butter on a glass butter dish with a cover on my kitchen
counter. If I don't keep the butter covered, a particularly sneaky
feline will surreptitiously jump up to the kitchen counters in the wee
hours of the night whilst I sleep and partake of said butter if it's not
covered! The cat knows better too, which is why she waits until I'm
asleep! <G>

Sky

P.S. What is "IAYCAA"? I can't figure it out from the context and
googling didn't help.

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

"readandpostrosie" > wrote in message
...
> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>
> (skipping the whole bell thing)
>

Winter: It's on the counter near a chilly wall. Summer: It's refrigerated,
or it would get way too soft.

"readandpostrosie" > wrote in message
...
> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>
> (skipping the whole bell thing)

Never.

Julie Bove wrote:
> "readandpostrosie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>>
>> (skipping the whole bell thing)
>
> Never.

Dtto. Never. I don't like rancid butter.

On Nov 25, 8:32 pm, Boron Elgar > wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>
> > wrote:
> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
> >out and ticking me off.
>
> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
> I just went a-googling and found some mention of it....one
> recommendation was to add salt to the water and another was to be
> scrupulous about not letting any crumbs get onto the butter.
>
> Are you using sweet butter or salted butter?
>
> Boron


I'm wondering about the water - it can only sit around for so long
without gathering up bacteria from the air.

I don't see the need for a bell myself - I use a regular, covered
butter dish, no water, no chilling, and it sits out on the counter
full-time. I've never had any rancid butter, no matter what the
outside temp is. I probably use more than a 1/4 pound (1 stick) a
week. It just doesn't have time to get old.

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:18:13 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Nov 25, 8:32 pm, Boron Elgar > wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note that within a
>> >couple days, I'm getting something black on the inside of the water
>> >container and on the inside of the butter container. It's grossing me
>> >out and ticking me off.
>>
>> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>>
>> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>>
>> I just went a-googling and found some mention of it....one
>> recommendation was to add salt to the water and another was to be
>> scrupulous about not letting any crumbs get onto the butter.
>>
>> Are you using sweet butter or salted butter?
>>
>> Boron
>
>
>I'm wondering about the water - it can only sit around for so long
>without gathering up bacteria from the air.

I think the instructions call for regular water changes.
>
>I don't see the need for a bell myself - I use a regular, covered
>butter dish, no water, no chilling, and it sits out on the counter
>full-time. I've never had any rancid butter, no matter what the
>outside temp is. I probably use more than a 1/4 pound (1 stick) a
>week. It just doesn't have time to get old.


My butter is always in the fridge. I prefer the butter cold. I keep
two kinds of butter...one more expensive, cultured one we use on
breads, rolls, etc., and then the Costco one for basic cooking.

Boron

"readandpostrosie" > wrote in message
...
> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>
> (skipping the whole bell thing)

Always refrigerate mine. Thought you were supposed to. Who knew?

Jon

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:38:32 -0500, "Zeppo" >
wrote:

>
>"readandpostrosie" > wrote in message
...
>> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>>
>> (skipping the whole bell thing)
>
>Always refrigerate mine. Thought you were supposed to. Who knew?

I did, too, until I finally tired of never being able to spread it on
my nice bread and rolls. Now I leave a stick in a covered butter dish
on the counter 24/7, even in the summers, and not a problem at all.

"readandpostrosie" > wrote in news:474ae7f8$0$8601
:

> how many folks here just leave their butter out?
>
> (skipping the whole bell thing)
>
>

I used to have a butter dish, but it broke a few months before I got
divorced. I would leave a stick out; once in a while the last bit of it
would taste off in the summer. My mother is a refrigerator of butter

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Karen > wrote:
>

>>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>> On another ng, someone had one of these butter containers, and had
>> nothing but problems, too. I think everyone just told her not to use
>> it.
>>
>> Karen
>
> I know that Gloria Puester here had a problem (not with spoilage) and
> stopped using hers.


I couldn't get the butter to stay in the "bell". It kept sliding into
the water no matter how hard I packed it in. I took it back to the
store where I bought it.

If you try again, I'd agree with whoever said to soak it in a bleach
solution, boil it for 5 minutes or so, then use sterile water to fill
the bottom. And if you can't stick a clean knife in it without
contaminating it, what good is it?

gloria p

Curly wrote on Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:02:48 GMT:

??>> I bought one of these suckers a couple months ago and note
??>> that within a couple days, I'm getting something black on
??>> the inside of the water container and on the inside of the
??>> butter container. It's grossing me out and ticking me
??>> off.
??>>
??>> Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I
??>> stop it!?

CS> Jes' use a regular butter dish, Martha Stewart.

??>> Again, IAYCAA. "-)

I don't eat real butter so I had never looked at this thread
before but it has continued so long that I had to find out what
was a "butter bell". It seems an ingenious idea but one of the
first few hits I found on Google
http://tinyurl.com/2n5lrn
said to remember to change the water every few days to avoid
mold.




James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

In article >,
(Curly Sue) wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:54:37 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:

> >Whaddaya think is causing it? More, how the hell do I stop it!?
>
> Jes' use a regular butter dish, Martha Stewart.
>
> >Again, IAYCAA. "-)
>
> Gesundheit

Yeah, yeah. I don't have a covered butter dish --- hmmm, maybe I'll
pack some butter in this WITHOUT THE WATER. That should help me decided
if it's a water issue.

(Hi, Sue! Nice to see you.)
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

In article <qiV2j.37356$Xg.35027@trnddc06>,
"James Silverton" > wrote:

> was a "butter bell". It seems an ingenious idea but one of the
> first few hits I found on Google
> http://tinyurl.com/2n5lrn
> said to remember to change the water every few days to avoid
> mold.

> James Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland

Thanks,
I was changing it daily. Sometimes twice a day.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

In article >,
(Curly Sue) wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:17:41 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> > wrote:

> >(Hi, Sue! Nice to see you.)
>
> You too! I peek in every so often but haven't had the time lately to
> follow what's going on.
>

You're not missing much.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007