I recently purchased a Kenmore range(http://www.sears.com/shc/s/
p_10153_12605_02294214000P?keyword=94214) with hidden bake element for
the oven. I am having some issues with the oven. I have cooked many
things in the oven so far & any time food or pizza grease(the worst)
drips on the oven floor I get a large amount of smoke build up in the
oven. When I open the door to check the food the large cloud of smoke
comes out & sets off the smoke alarms & we have to open the windows. I
don't see any smoke coming from the oven vent that comes out the back
burner. I really see no reason for ever having to use the self clean
cycle as the floor is as clean as a whistle cause it burns off during
cooking. What I am wondering is is this normal with hidden bake
elements. I have resorted to covering the bottom rack almost
completely with foil. I am seriuosly considering returning it and
going back to a coil version oven. This range has other features I
like so I really want to make it work. Thanks

On Dec 4, 9:55 am, wendymg > wrote:
> I recently purchased a Kenmore range(http://www.sears.com/shc/s/
> p_10153_12605_02294214000P?keyword=94214) with hidden bake element for
> the oven. I am having some issues with the oven. I have cooked many
> things in the oven so far & any time food or pizza grease(the worst)
> drips on the oven floor I get a large amount of smoke build up in the
> oven. When I open the door to check the food the large cloud of smoke
> comes out & sets off the smoke alarms & we have to open the windows. I
> don't see any smoke coming from the oven vent that comes out the back
> burner. I really see no reason for ever having to use the self clean
> cycle as the floor is as clean as a whistle cause it burns off during
> cooking. What I am wondering is is this normal with hidden bake
> elements. I have resorted to covering the bottom rack almost
> completely with foil. I am seriuosly considering returning it and
> going back to a coil version oven. This range has other features I
> like so I really want to make it work. Thanks

**Sorry I don't think the link is working it's a Kenmore 94214 from
Sears

On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:55:50 -0800 (PST), wendymg > wrote:

>I recently purchased a Kenmore range(http://www.sears.com/shc/s/
>p_10153_12605_02294214000P?keyword=94214) with hidden bake element for
>the oven. I am having some issues with the oven. I have cooked many
>things in the oven so far & any time food or pizza grease(the worst)
>drips on the oven floor I get a large amount of smoke build up in the
>oven. When I open the door to check the food the large cloud of smoke
>comes out & sets off the smoke alarms & we have to open the windows. I
>don't see any smoke coming from the oven vent that comes out the back
>burner.

That sounds like a vent defect to me. Granted, the vent allows smoke out slowly,
but you should certainly be able to see some coming out if the oven is filled
with smoke.


-- Larry

"wendymg" > wrote in message news:f9f935c2-7841-4733-b4c3-


>> don't see any smoke coming from the oven vent that comes out the back
>> burner.

I believe this is similar to our model. But our oven vent vents into the
room.

Dee Dee

On 2007-12-04, pltrgyst > wrote:
>
> That sounds like a vent defect to me. Granted, the vent allows smoke out slowly,
> but you should certainly be able to see some coming out if the oven is filled
> with smoke.

Not necessarily -- it might be that the rush of oxygen that enters the
oven when you open the door is required to produce the smoke. I have
noticed this effect myself. I must admit that I am not entirely
satisfied with my own explanation, which relies on the idea that the
environment inside the oven be low on oxygen because something in
there is using it all up more rapidly than it can diffuse in through
the vent or other cracks. That seems possible but a little unlikely
to me.

--
Randall

wendymg wrote:
> I recently purchased a Kenmore range(http://www.sears.com/shc/s/
> p_10153_12605_02294214000P?keyword=94214) with hidden bake element for
> the oven. I am having some issues with the oven. I have cooked many
> things in the oven so far & any time food or pizza grease(the worst)
> drips on the oven floor I get a large amount of smoke build up in the
> oven. When I open the door to check the food the large cloud of smoke
> comes out & sets off the smoke alarms & we have to open the windows. I
> don't see any smoke coming from the oven vent that comes out the back
> burner. I really see no reason for ever having to use the self clean
> cycle as the floor is as clean as a whistle cause it burns off during
> cooking. What I am wondering is is this normal with hidden bake
> elements. I have resorted to covering the bottom rack almost
> completely with foil. I am seriuosly considering returning it and
> going back to a coil version oven. This range has other features I
> like so I really want to make it work. Thanks

Since it was a recent purchase, you must be covered under a service
warranty - and this is a service problem. Give Sears a call at
1-800-4-MY-HOME - they've been really helpful with any issues I have.
(By the way - they have a great clause: if they are called three times
for the same problem, you get a new unit.)

Dora

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:29:50 -0000, Randall Nortman >
wrote:

>> That sounds like a vent defect to me. Granted, the vent allows smoke out slowly,
>> but you should certainly be able to see some coming out if the oven is filled
>> with smoke.
>
>Not necessarily -- it might be that the rush of oxygen that enters the
>oven when you open the door is required to produce the smoke....

Well, it has a glass window in the door, so he should be able to test that
hypothesis very easily.

(BTW, www.sears.com, enter "94214" in the search box, and voila!)

-- Larry

"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:29:50 -0000, Randall Nortman
> >
> wrote:
>
>>> That sounds like a vent defect to me. Granted, the vent allows smoke out
>>> slowly,
>>> but you should certainly be able to see some coming out if the oven is
>>> filled
>>> with smoke.
>>
>>Not necessarily -- it might be that the rush of oxygen that enters the
>>oven when you open the door is required to produce the smoke....
>
> Well, it has a glass window in the door, so he should be able to test that
> hypothesis very easily.
>
> (BTW, www.sears.com, enter "94214" in the search box, and voila!)
>
> -- Larry


Sorry, I thought the number was close to what I bought. I offered wrong
information.
Dee Dee