When I emailed, Costco, regarding Kirkland pans that I have been looking at
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11257108&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eC at=BC|89|56625|54916&N=4017652&Mo=27&No=4&ViewAll= 28&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=54916&Ns=P_Price|1||P_S ignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=89*56625*54916*55004*&topnav=

the online product mentioned only that there were two layers of stainless
steel; it did not say 18/10 stainless steel.

I emailed Costco regarding this, and here is a partial relevant answer.

"However on our site, if it does not state that it is the 18/10 Stainless,
it is a good possibility that it is not."

**
Here is a good Q&A site that gives lots of information, among this simpler
explanation:
http://www.finishing.com/292/94.shtml
a.. 18/0 would mean 18 percent chromium and 0 percent nickel
a.. 18/8 indicates 18 percent chromium & 8 percent nickel
a.. 18/10 indicates 18 percent chromium & 10 percent nickel.

So, if I understand correctly, perhaps stating only that something is made
of ss, then it could indicate that it would have only a percentage of
chromium and zero to 10 percent nickel. I'm wondering if there would be
another ingredient in the mix, or if it could be 18/0 indicating nothing
else?

Hmmmmm.
Dee Dee

On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:03:31 -0400, "Dee Randall" > wrote:

>So, if I understand correctly, perhaps stating only that something is made
>of ss, then it could indicate that it would have only a percentage of
>chromium and zero to 10 percent nickel. I'm wondering if there would be
>another ingredient in the mix, or if it could be 18/0 indicating nothing
>else?

Geez, I love Wikipedia 8 :

"Stainless steel, also known as inox steel or inox, is defined as a steel alloy
with a minimum of 11% chromium content by mass....

There are different types of stainless steels: when nickel is added, for
instance, the austenite structure of iron is stabilized. This crystal structure
makes such steels non-magnetic and less brittle at low temperatures. For greater
hardness and strength, carbon is added. When subjected to adequate heat
treatment, these steels are used as razor blades, cutlery, tools, etc.
Significant quantities of manganese have been used in many stainless steel
compositions. Manganese preserves an austenitic structure in the steel as does
nickel, but at a lower cost....

Stainless steels are also classified by their crystalline structu

* Austenitic, or 300 series, stainless steels comprise over 70% of total
stainless steel production. They contain a maximum of 0.15% carbon, a minimum of
16% chromium and sufficient nickel and/or manganese to retain an austenitic
structure at all temperatures from the cryogenic region to the melting point of
the alloy. A typical composition of 18% chromium and 10% nickel, commonly known
as 18/10 stainless, is often used in flatware...."

-- Larry

In article >,
"Dee Randall" > wrote:

> When I emailed, Costco, regarding Kirkland pans that I have been looking at
> http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...C&Ne=4000000&e
> Cat=BC|89|56625|54916&N=4017652&Mo=27&No=4&ViewAll =28&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=
> 54916&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=89*56625*54916*55004*
> &topnav=
>
> the online product mentioned only that there were two layers of stainless
> steel; it did not say 18/10 stainless steel.
>
> I emailed Costco regarding this, and here is a partial relevant answer.
>
> "However on our site, if it does not state that it is the 18/10 Stainless,
> it is a good possibility that it is not."
>
> **
> Here is a good Q&A site that gives lots of information, among this simpler
> explanation:
> http://www.finishing.com/292/94.shtml
> a.. 18/0 would mean 18 percent chromium and 0 percent nickel
> a.. 18/8 indicates 18 percent chromium & 8 percent nickel
> a.. 18/10 indicates 18 percent chromium & 10 percent nickel.
>
> So, if I understand correctly, perhaps stating only that something is made
> of ss, then it could indicate that it would have only a percentage of
> chromium and zero to 10 percent nickel. I'm wondering if there would be
> another ingredient in the mix, or if it could be 18/0 indicating nothing
> else?
>
> Hmmmmm.
> Dee Dee

Dee,

There is a good chance it is 200 series stainless, which while corrosion
resistant, is cheaper and easier to machine, and the corrosion
resistance is not as good. It is a stainless steel, so it can be
advertised as such, but by not specifying which flavor of stainless, the
manufacturer can hide behind the term stainless and hope you will think
it is the higher quality by default. I would guess at 202 stainless, as
it is the most machinable.

300 series is the preferable series for cookware, as the 18/x family
falls in it, but 200 series is noticeably cheaper to both buy as
machinable stock and to actually machine.

jt

On Tue 26 May 2009 11:03:31a, Dee Randall told us...

> When I emailed, Costco, regarding Kirkland pans that I have been looking
> at
> http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...hse=BC&Ne=4000
> 000&eCat=BC|89|56625|54916&N=4017652&Mo=27&No=4&Vi ewAll=28&Nr=P_CatalogNa
> me:BC&cat=54916&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=89*566
> 25*54916*55004*&topnav=
>
> the online product mentioned only that there were two layers of
> stainless steel; it did not say 18/10 stainless steel.
>
> I emailed Costco regarding this, and here is a partial relevant answer.
>
> "However on our site, if it does not state that it is the 18/10
> Stainless, it is a good possibility that it is not."
>
> **
> Here is a good Q&A site that gives lots of information, among this
> simpler explanation:
> http://www.finishing.com/292/94.shtml
> a.. 18/0 would mean 18 percent chromium and 0 percent nickel
> a.. 18/8 indicates 18 percent chromium & 8 percent nickel
> a.. 18/10 indicates 18 percent chromium & 10 percent nickel.
>
> So, if I understand correctly, perhaps stating only that something is
> made of ss, then it could indicate that it would have only a percentage
> of chromium and zero to 10 percent nickel. I'm wondering if there would
> be another ingredient in the mix, or if it could be 18/0 indicating
> nothing else?
>
> Hmmmmm.
> Dee Dee

Good question, Dee, and I have no answer. All I know it that they
"appear" to be 18/10 based on appearance, performance, non-corrosiveness,
and cleanability. I'm simply not going to worry about it, as they are very
good performers in all respects.

When I was in college, some 40 odd years ago, I was questioning embarking
on a very serious relationship. A very close friend told me, "when you
find love, don't question it too much." I have applied that philosophy to
many other things in my life as well. :-) It has prevented me from
agonizing and over-thinking many situations, and it's almost always lead to
good decisions.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Enchant, stay beautiful and graceful, but do this, eat well. Bring
the same consideration to the preparation of your food as you
devote to your appearance. Let your dinner be a poem, like your
dress. ~Charles Pierre Monselet,French journalist

On Tue 26 May 2009 03:47:13p, jt august told us...

> In article >,
> "Dee Randall" > wrote:
>
>> When I emailed, Costco, regarding Kirkland pans that I have been
>> looking at
>> http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...whse=BC&Ne=400
>> 0000&e
>> Cat=BC|89|56625|54916&N=4017652&Mo=27&No=4&ViewAll =28&Nr=P_CatalogName:B
>> C&cat=
>> 54916&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=89*56625*54916*
>> 55004* &topnav=
>>
>> the online product mentioned only that there were two layers of
>> stainless steel; it did not say 18/10 stainless steel.
>>
>> I emailed Costco regarding this, and here is a partial relevant answer.
>>
>> "However on our site, if it does not state that it is the 18/10
>> Stainless, it is a good possibility that it is not."
>>
>> **
>> Here is a good Q&A site that gives lots of information, among this
>> simpler explanation: http://www.finishing.com/292/94.shtml a.. 18/0
>> would mean 18 percent chromium and 0 percent nickel a.. 18/8 indicates
>> 18 percent chromium & 8 percent nickel a.. 18/10 indicates 18 percent
>> chromium & 10 percent nickel.
>>
>> So, if I understand correctly, perhaps stating only that something is
>> made of ss, then it could indicate that it would have only a percentage
>> of chromium and zero to 10 percent nickel. I'm wondering if there
>> would be another ingredient in the mix, or if it could be 18/0
>> indicating nothing else?
>>
>> Hmmmmm.
>> Dee Dee
>
> Dee,
>
> There is a good chance it is 200 series stainless, which while corrosion
> resistant, is cheaper and easier to machine, and the corrosion
> resistance is not as good. It is a stainless steel, so it can be
> advertised as such, but by not specifying which flavor of stainless, the
> manufacturer can hide behind the term stainless and hope you will think
> it is the higher quality by default. I would guess at 202 stainless, as
> it is the most machinable.
>
> 300 series is the preferable series for cookware, as the 18/x family
> falls in it, but 200 series is noticeably cheaper to both buy as
> machinable stock and to actually machine.
>
> jt
>

You certainly could be right. However, I have owned many items in various
flavors of stainless steel and have found that the actual color of the
metal is a pretty good indicator of the presence and percentage of
materials that make up 18/10 SS.

Whatever it is, I'm quite happy with it.

--
Wayne Boatwright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
We load up on oat bran in the morning so we'll live forever. Then
we spend the rest of the day living like there's no tomorrow. ~Lee
Iacocca

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message

>> So, if I understand correctly, perhaps stating only that something is
>> made of ss, then it could indicate that it would have only a percentage
>> of chromium and zero to 10 percent nickel. I'm wondering if there would
>> be another ingredient in the mix, or if it could be 18/0 indicating
>> nothing else?
>>
>> Hmmmmm.
>> Dee Dee

>
> Good question, Dee, and I have no answer. All I know it that they
> "appear" to be 18/10 based on appearance, performance, non-corrosiveness,
> and cleanability. I'm simply not going to worry about it, as they are
> very
> good performers in all respects.
>
> When I was in college, some 40 odd years ago, I was questioning embarking
> on a very serious relationship. A very close friend told me, "when you
> find love, don't question it too much." I have applied that philosophy to
> many other things in my life as well. :-) It has prevented me from
> agonizing and over-thinking many situations, and it's almost always lead
> to
> good decisions.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>



OT:
There is a Indian philosopher/sage, U.G. Krishnamurti (not the 'other'
Krishnamurti) who answered a question in an interview by saying this:

"Questions, Questions, don't ask me these questions."

His answer has been repeated in our home over the years, imitating his
accent, always getting a laugh from each other.

I still hear in my head, my mom saying, "Oh, Dee, you ask soo many
questions." I'm still doing it.

Dee Dee

On Wed 27 May 2009 06:30:03a, Dee Randall told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>
>>> So, if I understand correctly, perhaps stating only that something is
>>> made of ss, then it could indicate that it would have only a percentage
>>> of chromium and zero to 10 percent nickel. I'm wondering if there
would
>>> be another ingredient in the mix, or if it could be 18/0 indicating
>>> nothing else?
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm.
>>> Dee Dee
>
>>
>> Good question, Dee, and I have no answer. All I know it that they
>> "appear" to be 18/10 based on appearance, performance, non-
corrosiveness,
>> and cleanability. I'm simply not going to worry about it, as they are
>> very good performers in all respects.
>>
>> When I was in college, some 40 odd years ago, I was questioning
embarking
>> on a very serious relationship. A very close friend told me, "when you
>> find love, don't question it too much." I have applied that philosophy
to
>> many other things in my life as well. :-) It has prevented me from
>> agonizing and over-thinking many situations, and it's almost always lead
>> to good decisions.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>
>
>
> OT:
> There is a Indian philosopher/sage, U.G. Krishnamurti (not the 'other'
> Krishnamurti) who answered a question in an interview by saying this:
>
> "Questions, Questions, don't ask me these questions."
>
> His answer has been repeated in our home over the years, imitating his
> accent, always getting a laugh from each other.
>
> I still hear in my head, my mom saying, "Oh, Dee, you ask soo many
> questions." I'm still doing it.
>
> Dee Dee

I like that!

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Strange to see how a good dinner and feasting reconciles everybody.
~Samuel Pepys