We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a service
recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be rinsed before
going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put stuff directly into
the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste water. Thoughts?

In . au "Viviane"
> wrote:

> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a
> service recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be
> rinsed before going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put
> stuff directly into the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste
> water. Thoughts?

Does your dishwasher have a "soft food disposal" device, or just a
filter? Was your service call in any way related to your practice of not
rinsing, or was the tech simply volunteering his opinion?

Our Bosch has just a filter and I've always at least wiped the big stuff
off the dishes, and rinsed them if they're particularly encrusted.

If it had a disposal, I'd be more inclined to leave the stuff alone.

Even so, the combination of detergent and hot water under pressure does
seem to do a good job of disintegrating just about anything except the
stray toothpick.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

On 16 Jul 2010 13:13:12 GMT, Bert Hyman > wrote:

>In . au "Viviane"
> wrote:
>
>> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a
>> service recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be
>> rinsed before going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put
>> stuff directly into the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste
>> water. Thoughts?
>
>Does your dishwasher have a "soft food disposal" device, or just a
>filter? Was your service call in any way related to your practice of not
>rinsing, or was the tech simply volunteering his opinion?
>
>Our Bosch has just a filter and I've always at least wiped the big stuff
>off the dishes, and rinsed them if they're particularly encrusted.
>
>If it had a disposal, I'd be more inclined to leave the stuff alone.
>
>Even so, the combination of detergent and hot water under pressure does
>seem to do a good job of disintegrating just about anything except the
>stray toothpick.

My Bosch doesn't do too well on olive or cherry pits either.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Viviane > wrote:

>We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a service
>recently.

That will just be the first of many.

> The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be rinsed before
>going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put stuff directly into
>the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste water. Thoughts?

Rinse, but with cold water. Hot water is expensive.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Viviane wrote:
>
> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a service
> recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be rinsed before
> going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put stuff directly into
> the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste water. Thoughts?

If your DW has a built-in garbage disposal, then it shouldn't be a
problem. However, that being said, I think it would depend how often
you operate the DW. If you don't operate the DW often, all that
unrinsed, left-over food and gunk will start to "grow" and get a bit
fetid, I'd think? It's doubtful if my portable DW includes a garbage
disposal, so I've always rinsed neary anything that goes into the DW.
It also takes more than a week for my DW to accumulate a full load
before I run the wash cycle.

Sky, who's very happy to have a portable DW after 17+ years of
hand-washing dishes!

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

"Viviane" > wrote in message
. au...
> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a
> service recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be rinsed
> before going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put stuff
> directly into the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste water.
> Thoughts?
>

What does the manual say? Some should be rinsed, other models have built in
soft food disposals and rinsing is not needed. Personally, I just give the
really dirty dishes a quick "psst" under the water. That gets the heavy
stuff off and the machine does a great job on the rest.

Rinsing is always better and improves upon the cleaning quality of the washer. I do it most of the time.

"Viviane" > wrote in message
. au...
> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a
> service recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be rinsed
> before going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put stuff
> directly into the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste water.
> Thoughts?
>
Always, always, always, rinse your dishes before inserting them. We managed
a condominium complex with 32 units. All of the repair problems were with
non rinsed dishes. None with rinsed dishes. We always asked. At home we
rinse to the point where you really don't need soap on our Bosch.

Kent

"Kent" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Viviane" > wrote in message
> . au...
>> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a
>> service recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be rinsed
>> before going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put stuff
>> directly into the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste water.
>> Thoughts?
>>
> Always, always, always, rinse your dishes before inserting them. We
> managed a condominium complex with 32 units. All of the repair problems
> were with non rinsed dishes. None with rinsed dishes. We always asked. At
> home we rinse to the point where you really don't need soap on our Bosch.
>
> Kent

Rinsing that much is foolish. I'll go along with a quick "psst" under the
faucet to get the biggest gunk off. If I rinse to the point of not needing
soap, I don't really need the machine. It is a machine, let to do the job
it was designed to do.

On 9/1/2010 4:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Kent" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Viviane" > wrote in message
>> . au...
>>> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a
>>> service recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be
>>> rinsed before going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put
>>> stuff directly into the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why
>>> waste water. Thoughts?
>>>
>> Always, always, always, rinse your dishes before inserting them. We
>> managed a condominium complex with 32 units. All of the repair
>> problems were with non rinsed dishes. None with rinsed dishes. We
>> always asked. At home we rinse to the point where you really don't
>> need soap on our Bosch.
>
> Rinsing that much is foolish. I'll go along with a quick "psst" under
> the faucet to get the biggest gunk off. If I rinse to the point of not
> needing soap, I don't really need the machine. It is a machine, let to
> do the job it was designed to do.

Perhaps it depends on the DW's features and personal household usage?
It'll take a good week or two before my home portable DW is used. The
dishes are always rinsed so there's no food residue to get into the DW.
The DW gets operated only when there's a full load, mostly to sanitize
this dishes more than anything else.

Sky

--

Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 05:53:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Rinsing that much is foolish. I'll go along with a quick "psst" under the
>faucet to get the biggest gunk off. If I rinse to the point of not needing
>soap, I don't really need the machine. It is a machine, let to do the job
>it was designed to do.

Hand washing the dishes costs more than a machine. This as hot water is
expensive and hand washing uses more hot water than a machine. The
electricity cost is minor.

If one does rinse the dishes it only makes sense if you use cold water.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

In "Kent"
> wrote:

> At home we rinse to the point where you really don't need soap on our
> Bosch.

Since your Bosch has no mechanical food grinder, it's doing the same
amount of work regardless of how clean your dishes are when you put them
in (or even if you don't put any dishes in at all), so you're not
extending the life of the machine by pre-washing your dishes.

[I'm ignoring the dirt-sensing feature that supposedly adjusts the
cleaning cycle automatically]

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

"Kent" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Viviane" > wrote in message
> . au...
>> We have a Fisher & Paykel 2 drawer dishwasher and had to call for a
>> service recently. The dishwasher tech said that dishes should be rinsed
>> before going into the dishwasher. Until now we have always put stuff
>> directly into the dishwasher without rinsing, thinking why waste water.
>> Thoughts?
>>
> Always, always, always, rinse your dishes before inserting them. We
> managed a condominium complex with 32 units. All of the repair problems
> were with non rinsed dishes. None with rinsed dishes. We always asked. At
> home we rinse to the point where you really don't need soap on our Bosch.
>
> Kent
>
Another thing to consider is if you use your micro wave much then you use
plastic wrap on your plates and bowls. The wrap will tear and pieces will
cling to the bottoms. In the dishwasher the pieces come loose and wash into
the pump where it binds up the works. By rinsing you will insure that those
pieces will be found and rinsed off.

Gene