Which model of KitchenAid standalone mixers is the best for home use for
bread and pizza doughs? One of the recipe books I have stated I need at
least a 250-watt mixer or it will burn out in a couple of years. Any
feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks!

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Karen C.

"Karen C" > wrote in message
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> Which model of KitchenAid standalone mixers is the best for home use for
> bread and pizza doughs? One of the recipe books I have stated I need at
> least a 250-watt mixer or it will burn out in a couple of years. Any
> feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks!
>
> --
> Karen C.
>

The most powerful one made. A few bucks more than the lower powered ones,
but worth it over the years. The Artisan series is 325 watts, the minimum
I'd buy. The pro series is 450 and lists for $399..
http://www.kitchenaid.com/catalog/ca...categoryId=310
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Ed
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Look on Ebay if your shopping for one of these, I just bought a Kitchenaid
Pro 5 with the bowl lift in Onyx black for $140, which is at least $100
less than the best price I saw at retail. If I would have settled for a
weird color I could have had one for around $100.
The machine is supposedly a factory refurb, and it came sealed in a box from
Kitchenaid saying factory refurb and includes a refurb 6 month warrantee,
but I will be darned if I can see anything that looks less than brand new,
it came with the three standard accessories ( paddle, whisk, and dough hook)
and it makes great dough.

For some reason EBay is full of them right now, just search for kitchenaid
mixer and you will find plenty.

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"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Karen C" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Which model of KitchenAid standalone mixers is the best for home use for
>> bread and pizza doughs? One of the recipe books I have stated I need at
>> least a 250-watt mixer or it will burn out in a couple of years. Any
>> feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Karen C.
>>
>
> The most powerful one made. A few bucks more than the lower powered ones,
> but worth it over the years. The Artisan series is 325 watts, the minimum
> I'd buy. The pro series is 450 and lists for $399..
> http://www.kitchenaid.com/catalog/ca...categoryId=310
> --
> Ed
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
>

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
> The most powerful one made. A few bucks more than the lower powered ones,
> but worth it over the years. The Artisan series is 325 watts, the minimum
> I'd buy. The pro series is 450 and lists for $399..

I did see the Artisan on sale this week at Meijer for $235, but I hesitated
to get it because I was afraid it wouldn't last long and that I might be
sorry for not going a step up from that. We do pizzas once or twice a week
around here, and when my family is together, that's a whole lot of pizza.

Thanks for your feedback.

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Karen C.

"Mikey S." > wrote in message
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> Look on Ebay if your shopping for one of these, I just bought a Kitchenaid
> Pro 5 with the bowl lift in Onyx black for $140, which is at least $100 .
.. .

That's quite a deal! I'll take a look.

> The machine is supposedly a factory refurb, and it came sealed in a box
from

Regarding factory refurbs . . . are they a wise buy? That definitely would
be the way to go if it lasted even a couple of years with regular use, I
would think.

I'll check into the refurbs. Thanks for the info.

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Karen C.

"Karen C" > wrote in message
>
> Regarding factory refurbs . . . are they a wise buy? That definitely
> would
> be the way to go if it lasted even a couple of years with regular use, I
> would think.
>

Yes. I doubt that some of the stuff is really refurbed, but a way of selling
to the low priced outlets without ****ing off the regular stores.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
om...
>
> Yes. I doubt that some of the stuff is really refurbed, but a way of
selling
> to the low priced outlets without ****ing off the regular stores.

You may be on to something there. Hadn't thought about that. Thanks!

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Karen C.

"Karen C" > wrote in message
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> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> m...
> > The most powerful one made. A few bucks more than the lower powered
ones,
> > but worth it over the years. The Artisan series is 325 watts, the
minimum
> > I'd buy. The pro series is 450 and lists for $399..
>
> I did see the Artisan on sale this week at Meijer for $235, but I
hesitated
> to get it because I was afraid it wouldn't last long and that I might be
> sorry for not going a step up from that. We do pizzas once or twice a
week
> around here, and when my family is together, that's a whole lot of pizza.
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> --
> Karen C.
>
> I got the KitchenAid Pro 5 at Amazon for 144.00 delivered. They have 25.00
off deals all the time and you get free shipping too. I am real happy with
mine and I could not tell it was refurbished. I notice the price went up
10.00 but still this is worth looking at.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance

Karen C wrote:
> "Mikey S." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Look on Ebay if your shopping for one of these, I just bought a Kitchenaid
>>Pro 5 with the bowl lift in Onyx black for $140, which is at least $100 .
>
> . .
>
> That's quite a deal! I'll take a look.
>
>
>>The machine is supposedly a factory refurb, and it came sealed in a box
>
> from
>
> Regarding factory refurbs . . . are they a wise buy? That definitely would
> be the way to go if it lasted even a couple of years with regular use, I
> would think.

For the most part factory refurbs may be better than regular "A" goods.
They include items that were repaired after failing QA testing. These
units never left the factory, are usually better tested and are almost
always cosmetically perfect. Some units may be customer returns which
are checked out and repaired as needed. They may have some cosmetic damage.

Matthew

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"Matthew L. Martin" > wrote in message
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> For the most part factory refurbs may be better than regular "A" goods.
> They include items that were repaired after failing QA testing. These
> units never left the factory, are usually better tested and are almost
> always cosmetically perfect. Some units may be customer returns which
> are checked out and repaired as needed. They may have some cosmetic
damage.

That's very good to know. I will definitely not rule the refurbs out, then.
Thanks a bunch!

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Karen C.

"sshay" > wrote in message
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> > I got the KitchenAid Pro 5 at Amazon for 144.00 delivered. They have
25.00
> off deals all the time and you get free shipping too. I am real happy with
> mine and I could not tell it was refurbished. I notice the price went up
> 10.00 but still this is worth looking at.

I'll keep an eye peeled on e-bay. Thanks a bunch!

There is a brand new KA mixer out called the Accolade. 400 watts, and all steel
gears. It's 5 qts. Be careful of buying mixers on Ebay only because of the
warranty issues. KA goes by the serial # to see when it was manufactured if you
don't have a receipt from an authrized seller. If that is over a year old you
are out of luck as far as getting warranty coverage from them. You still get
the fulI year as long as it was bought within a year of manufacture. Just found
that out after reading the board at the KA website, as someone had asked. If
you buy the mixer with a credit card most double the original warranty. I'm not
sure how that would work though with Paypal.

"DesignRRR" > wrote in message
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> There is a brand new KA mixer out called the Accolade. 400 watts, and all
steel
> gears. It's 5 qts. Be careful of buying mixers on Ebay only because of the
> warranty issues. KA goes by the serial # to see when it was manufactured
if you
> don't have a receipt from an authrized seller. If that is over a year old
you
> are out of luck as far as getting warranty coverage from them. You still
get
> the fulI year as long as it was bought within a year of manufacture. Just
found
> that out after reading the board at the KA website, as someone had asked.
If
> you buy the mixer with a credit card most double the original warranty.
I'm not
> sure how that would work though with Paypal.

Thanks for passing this along. I would not have known about the difference
in warranties. I will look into the Accolade. Thanks for the tips!

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Karen C.

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
>Regarding factory refurbs . . . are they a wise buy? That definitely would
>be the way to go if it lasted even a couple of years with regular use, I
>would think.

They are a wise buy if you get the full warranty.
Most refurbs are simply returns that can't be sold as new. The box is
torn etc, and they have to go back for repackaging.

"Karen C" > wrote in message
...
> Which model of KitchenAid standalone mixers is the best for home use for
> bread and pizza doughs? One of the recipe books I have stated I need at
> least a 250-watt mixer or it will burn out in a couple of years. Any
> feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks!
>

I don't think KA makes a model below 250 watts. Mine is 325W and if about
15 years old. Unless you want to make an enormous amount of dough or many
successive batches of dough, I don't think you have to worry. Very stiff
dough for 100% whole wheat bread or rye bread will be more taxing than a one
pound batch of pizza dough. There are alternatives to the KA stand mixer.
Viking has a great looking mixer, but I haven't seen any reviews. The
Electolux Magic Mill would be a good mixer to look at if you are primarily
interested in making large batches of dough. The Delongi (was Kenwood)
mixer gets good reviews, although getting parts and service may be an issue.
Finally, if you are buying power rating on a budget, you might look at the
Wolfgang Puck 700 watt mixer for $199.00 It claims to be commercially
rated and comes with two bowls, a splash guard (like the one on the Viking
which looks better than the KA) and the standard whisk, paddle, and dough
hook. That mixer has two power take-off and there is blender attachment as
well as a grinder, etc.available. Here is a link:http://tinyurl.com/6ta6z

Also at HSN is a Hamilton Beach stand mixer, all metal, 400 watts, $169.00
http://tinyurl.com/65jsb

"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
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> I don't think KA makes a model below 250 watts. Mine is 325W and if about
> 15 years old. Unless you want to make an enormous amount of dough or many
> successive batches of dough, I don't think you have to worry. Very stiff
> dough for 100% whole wheat bread or rye bread will be more taxing than a
one
> pound batch of pizza dough. There are alternatives to the KA stand mixer.
> Viking has a great looking mixer, but I haven't seen any reviews. The
> Electolux Magic Mill would be a good mixer to look at if you are primarily
.. . .

Thanks for taking the time to clue me in. Sounds like there are a lot of
other options out there to choose from than I was aware of. I will check
them out too. Thanks!

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Karen C.

"Petey the Wonder Dog" > wrote in message
...
> They are a wise buy if you get the full warranty.
> Most refurbs are simply returns that can't be sold as new. The box is
> torn etc, and they have to go back for repackaging.

I will definitely look for the full warranty. Thanks for the tips!

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Karen C.

In article >,
"Karen C" > wrote:

> Thanks for taking the time to clue me in. Sounds like there are a lot of
> other options out there to choose from than I was aware of. I will check
> them out too. Thanks!
>
> --
> Karen C.


If you are willing to consider other brands the Braun Multisystem is
very nice. A single 700 watt (now 950 watt) motor drives, either a
dough mixing bowl (this bowl also has two different kinds of whisks), a
food processor (separate bowl, with numerous disks) & a blender. I have
had one for 10+ years and love it.

I prefer it to the KitchenAid because the dough mixing bowl is covered
and so you do not have a mess with flour flying. Its capacity for dough
is considerably higher than the KA (I have routinely done 6-7 pounds).

I like the food processor bowl on it too because again it is sealed and
so you do not have liquids leaking out from the bowl. It was one hell
of a value (Sub $300). It never seemed to catch on in the US and now
appears to be sold only in 220 volt versions for Europe.

Here is a link to it:

http://www.braun.com/global/products...ion/kitchenmac
hines/multisystem.html.

Or

http://tinyurl.com/4t7xt

Roland

"Joe Doe" > wrote in message
...
> If you are willing to consider other brands the Braun Multisystem is
> very nice. A single 700 watt (now 950 watt) motor drives, either a
> Here is a link to it:
> >
http://www.braun.com/global/products...ion/kitchenmac
> hines/multisystem.html.
> > > http://tinyurl.com/4t7xt

Gosh, even more choices <g>. Thanks for the info. I'll check it out before
making a final decision. Thanks!

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Karen C.

"Karen C" > wrote in message
...
> "Joe Doe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If you are willing to consider other brands the Braun Multisystem is
> > very nice. A single 700 watt (now 950 watt) motor drives, either a
> > Here is a link to it:
> > >
> http://www.braun.com/global/products...ion/kitchenmac
> > hines/multisystem.html.
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/4t7xt
>
> Gosh, even more choices <g>. Thanks for the info. I'll check it out
before
> making a final decision. Thanks!
>

I also recommend the food processor. Unless I am making a large batch of
dough, I use my FP instead of the KitchenAid stand mixer. The FP is faster
and way less messy. Also, the FP will cost less and do more than a stand
mixer. I have both, but I got my FP before the stand mixer. Of course if
you make a lot of cakes or large batches of cookies, the mixer would get
more use. I think people should consider both appliances.

"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Karen C" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Joe Doe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > If you are willing to consider other brands the Braun Multisystem is
>> > very nice. A single 700 watt (now 950 watt) motor drives, either a
>> > Here is a link to it:
>> > >
>> http://www.braun.com/global/products...ion/kitchenmac
>> > hines/multisystem.html.
>> > > > http://tinyurl.com/4t7xt
>>
>> Gosh, even more choices <g>. Thanks for the info. I'll check it out
> before
>> making a final decision. Thanks!
>>
>
> I also recommend the food processor. Unless I am making a large batch of
> dough, I use my FP instead of the KitchenAid stand mixer. The FP is
> faster
> and way less messy. Also, the FP will cost less and do more than a stand
> mixer. I have both, but I got my FP before the stand mixer. Of course if
> you make a lot of cakes or large batches of cookies, the mixer would get
> more use. I think people should consider both appliances.
>
>

Would you believe I still don't have a food processor! LOL! Although, I
was watching a cooking show on tv the other day and watching how fast it
processed stuff and it's put the bug back in my brain!

Dawn

"DawnK" > wrote in message
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>
> "Vox Humana" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Karen C" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "Joe Doe" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > If you are willing to consider other brands the Braun Multisystem is
> >> > very nice. A single 700 watt (now 950 watt) motor drives, either a
> >> > Here is a link to it:
> >> > >
> >>
http://www.braun.com/global/products...ion/kitchenmac
> >> > hines/multisystem.html.
> >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/4t7xt
> >>
> >> Gosh, even more choices <g>. Thanks for the info. I'll check it out
> > before
> >> making a final decision. Thanks!
> >>
> >
> > I also recommend the food processor. Unless I am making a large batch
of
> > dough, I use my FP instead of the KitchenAid stand mixer. The FP is
> > faster
> > and way less messy. Also, the FP will cost less and do more than a
stand
> > mixer. I have both, but I got my FP before the stand mixer. Of course
if
> > you make a lot of cakes or large batches of cookies, the mixer would get
> > more use. I think people should consider both appliances.
> >
> >
>
> Would you believe I still don't have a food processor! LOL! Although, I
> was watching a cooking show on tv the other day and watching how fast it
> processed stuff and it's put the bug back in my brain!
>

A Braun FP like I have can be bought for under $100.
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...Search+Froogle

You could pair that with the Wolfgang Puck 700 Watt mixer and have both
appliances for the price of a Kitchen Aid mixer.

"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
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>
> "DawnK" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Vox Humana" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Karen C" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> "Joe Doe" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > If you are willing to consider other brands the Braun Multisystem is
>> >> > very nice. A single 700 watt (now 950 watt) motor drives, either a
>> >> > Here is a link to it:
>> >> > >
>> >>
> http://www.braun.com/global/products...ion/kitchenmac
>> >> > hines/multisystem.html.
>> >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/4t7xt
>> >>
>> >> Gosh, even more choices <g>. Thanks for the info. I'll check it out
>> > before
>> >> making a final decision. Thanks!
>> >>
>> >
>> > I also recommend the food processor. Unless I am making a large batch
> of
>> > dough, I use my FP instead of the KitchenAid stand mixer. The FP is
>> > faster
>> > and way less messy. Also, the FP will cost less and do more than a
> stand
>> > mixer. I have both, but I got my FP before the stand mixer. Of course
> if
>> > you make a lot of cakes or large batches of cookies, the mixer would
>> > get
>> > more use. I think people should consider both appliances.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Would you believe I still don't have a food processor! LOL! Although, I
>> was watching a cooking show on tv the other day and watching how fast it
>> processed stuff and it's put the bug back in my brain!
>>
>
> A Braun FP like I have can be bought for under $100.
> http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=...Search+Froogle
>
> You could pair that with the Wolfgang Puck 700 Watt mixer and have both
> appliances for the price of a Kitchen Aid mixer.
>
>

Cool! Should really get one. By the time I would replace the broken
slicer/shredder for the KA, I could just about buy a food processor that
would do the same thing and more!

Dawn

"Vox Humana" > wrote in message
...
> I also recommend the food processor. Unless I am making a large batch of
> dough, I use my FP instead of the KitchenAid stand mixer. The FP is
faster
> and way less messy. Also, the FP will cost less and do more than a stand
> mixer. I have both, but I got my FP before the stand mixer. Of course if
> you make a lot of cakes or large batches of cookies, the mixer would get
> more use. I think people should consider both appliances.

Hmmm. I already have a Cuisinart Foot Processor. However, I've not done
doughs with it because I seem to recall reading somewhere that it didn't do
a thorough job. Is this not so?

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Karen C.

"Karen C" > wrote in message
...
> "Vox Humana" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I also recommend the food processor. Unless I am making a large batch of
>> dough, I use my FP instead of the KitchenAid stand mixer. The FP is
> faster
>> and way less messy. Also, the FP will cost less and do more than a stand
>> mixer. I have both, but I got my FP before the stand mixer. Of course
>> if
>> you make a lot of cakes or large batches of cookies, the mixer would get
>> more use. I think people should consider both appliances.
>
> Hmmm. I already have a Cuisinart Foot Processor. However, I've not done
> doughs with it because I seem to recall reading somewhere that it didn't
> do
> a thorough job. Is this not so?
>
> --
> Karen C.
>
>

It is indeed not so. A FP can do a great job with bread if used right. I
highly recommend the book The Best Bread Ever which is all FP bread recipes.
Excellent results and extremely detailed instructions.


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
. com...
> It is indeed not so. A FP can do a great job with bread if used right. I
> highly recommend the book The Best Bread Ever which is all FP bread
recipes.
> Excellent results and extremely detailed instructions.

Great! This is good news. Does that include pizza doughs? We eat a lot of
pizza around here. I'll check it out. Thanks!

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Karen C.