My husband came home to announce this is what he wanted for our new
kitchen remodel. Since I do the cooking, I went to check it out. The
door is sooo heavy and the oven so low, I was on my hands and knees in
the display. Has anyone else had that problem? I had wanted a gas
rangetop and seperate electic convection oven (FP), but now the sales
guy has talked my husband into the broiling meat capabilities of the
all gas Wolf.

Any suggestions? Does the Wolf do meat that much better than electric?
I thought electric did better broiling. Do I need to do weights and get
knee pads in order to enjoy the Wolf? Is there a down side to
seperating your rangetop and oven?

"Amanda" > wrote in message
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> My husband came home to announce this is what he wanted for our new
> kitchen remodel. Since I do the cooking, I went to check it out. The
> door is sooo heavy and the oven so low, I was on my hands and knees in
> the display. Has anyone else had that problem? I had wanted a gas
> rangetop and seperate electic convection oven (FP), but now the sales
> guy has talked my husband into the broiling meat capabilities of the
> all gas Wolf.
>
> Any suggestions? Does the Wolf do meat that much better than electric?
> I thought electric did better broiling. Do I need to do weights and get
> knee pads in order to enjoy the Wolf? Is there a down side to
> seperating your rangetop and oven?

Dear Amanda,
This is NOT an answer to your query regarding the Wolf, but one regarding
"hands and knees." For starters, I would love to have a Wolf, and it would
have to have a lot of drawback to make me refusing one.

I just got a new dryer 7.5 capacity, whereas I had a 5.9 capacity before.
My husband decided that a "drop-down door" vs. "side opening door" might be
a better choice. The door was difficult to open for me, but I decided to
try it anyway, thinking it would soften up a bit on use. However, during
scooping out the dry clothes, so that I could reach to the back of the drum,
each time I had to stoop in a way that was quite uncomfortable. Eventually
I pulled a ligament around my hip. Something that initially gives you
pause may end up being even more of a problem. I know this is why you are
concerned and writing :-) (Yes, I'm in the "negotiations on my way to
returning to the dryer.)

Best of luck,
Dee

Amanda wrote:
> My husband came home to announce this is what he wanted for our new
> kitchen remodel. Since I do the cooking, I went to check it out. The
> door is sooo heavy and the oven so low, I was on my hands and knees in
> the display. Has anyone else had that problem? I had wanted a gas
> rangetop and seperate electic convection oven (FP), but now the sales
> guy has talked my husband into the broiling meat capabilities of the
> all gas Wolf.
>
> Any suggestions? Does the Wolf do meat that much better than electric?
> I thought electric did better broiling. Do I need to do weights and get
> knee pads in order to enjoy the Wolf? Is there a down side to
> seperating your rangetop and oven?
>
What's the matter with your husband that he would attempt to dictate
which tools you use to perform your work? Tell him to get you the
cooktop and eye level convection oven you want, instead of the ludicrous
pseudo professional status seeking Wolfe. Make that two ovens.

del

"Del Cecchi" > wrote in message
...
> Amanda wrote:
> > My husband came home to announce this is what he wanted for our new
> > kitchen remodel. Since I do the cooking, I went to check it out. The
> > door is sooo heavy and the oven so low, I was on my hands and knees in
> > the display. Has anyone else had that problem? I had wanted a gas
> > rangetop and seperate electic convection oven (FP), but now the sales
> > guy has talked my husband into the broiling meat capabilities of the
> > all gas Wolf.
> >
> > Any suggestions? Does the Wolf do meat that much better than electric?
> > I thought electric did better broiling. Do I need to do weights and get
> > knee pads in order to enjoy the Wolf? Is there a down side to
> > seperating your rangetop and oven?
> >
> What's the matter with your husband that he would attempt to dictate
> which tools you use to perform your work? Tell him to get you the
> cooktop and eye level convection oven you want, instead of the ludicrous
> pseudo professional status seeking Wolfe. Make that two ovens.


Or make it clear that he will have to do the cooking if he gets an oven that
is too hard for you to open. Or, explain that if you spend all your energy
in the kitchen that you will be too tired for..., well you get the idea.

Amanda wrote:

><snip>

> Any suggestions? Does the Wolf do meat that much better than
electric?
> I thought electric did better broiling.

The Wolf probably has an infra red-broiler. So yes, it would do meat
better than the electric. You might want to take a good look at that
feature. It's rather impressive and not just for meat. You can melt
cheeses quickly and evenly, carmalize dessert toppings...

Do I need to do weights and get
> knee pads in order to enjoy the Wolf?

No, but it takes a while to get used to a low oven if you have been
using a wall unit. You will not need to kneel on the floor to see or
manage things. The door is heavier than that found on many appliances.
But a heavy door means "surround" heat, not a big cold spot.

Is there a down side to
> seperating your rangetop and oven?

Yes. By keeping the oven and range top together the same ventilation
system can exhaust both. Also the need for another high voltage
electrical line is eliminated.

Other issues to consider...

You may want to google this list for posts concerning digital control
systems before you make your final decision. A lot of the wall and
range units come that way now. A mechanical control system is
preferable.

You may also want to look at the specs for the fan(s) if your choices
have convection modes. A small fan is not particularly useful beyond
establishing sales credentials.

So, is there an all gas 36" range that doesn't have a heavy door but
DOES cook and bake well? And, I have a stove now, but the oven doesn't
go all the way to the floor like the wolf does.

Amanda wrote:
> So, is there an all gas 36" range that doesn't have a heavy door but
> DOES cook and bake well? And, I have a stove now, but the oven
doesn't
> go all the way to the floor like the wolf does.

About half of this issue is the 36" configuration. It means you have
one oven. It's big and so the door is big. If you added 50% more size
and weight to you current range oven door, how heavy would it be?

My guess is there is not more than an inch of difference between the
bottom of Wolf's door and your current appliance. It might be good to
verify that.

We just got back from the Seattle Home Show where we found and talked
with a Wolf Distributer (Bradlee). When I asked him about the heavy
door on the AG (as opposed to the DF) he told me that Wolf is aware of
this and is currently working on an easier to use door (more like the
DF). Argh. We saw the Bluestar while there, but no one had it in the
36' size. I like the Bluestar -- especially since it isn't well know
out here (I am not in to labels), but found some rough edges that could
cut you. And, how can I buy it without seeing it? The dealer said that
during installation any problems would be taken care of. Argh. My
husband is telling me to do more weights and I do so love the Wolf... I
can't find a good spot in our kitchen for wall ovens...

Amanda wrote:
> We just got back from the Seattle Home Show where we found and talked
> with a Wolf Distributer (Bradlee). When I asked him about the heavy
> door on the AG (as opposed to the DF) he told me that Wolf is aware
of
> this and is currently working on an easier to use door (more like the
> DF). Argh. We saw the Bluestar while there, but no one had it in the
> 36' size. I like the Bluestar -- especially since it isn't well know
> out here (I am not in to labels), but found some rough edges that
could
> cut you. And, how can I buy it without seeing it? The dealer said
that
> during installation any problems would be taken care of. Argh. My
> husband is telling me to do more weights and I do so love the Wolf...
I
> can't find a good spot in our kitchen for wall ovens...


Well... if you're on the West Coast why look at the Dynasty series by
Jade Range. Wolf is not in that league, though they pretend to be.