I know a lot of people that pick up appliances at the big discounters and
think they save a lot of money. Today, a guy was bringing home a brand new
Kenmore fridge from Sears. He took the highway, speed limit 65 mph.
Evidently, he did not tie that big heavy box down very well as it landed on
the highway.

I just can't imagine the call home. "Honey, you know how we saved $20
picking up the refrigerator? Well I was just cruising along and . . . . .
.."

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
>> I know a lot of people that pick up appliances at the big discounters and
>> think they save a lot of money. Today, a guy was bringing home a brand
>> new
>> Kenmore fridge from Sears. He took the highway, speed limit 65 mph.
>> Evidently, he did not tie that big heavy box down very well as it landed
>> on
>> the highway.
>
> I know a lot of people who pick up appliances at the store and KNOW they
> save money.
>
> Not everyone's an idiot.
>
> I bought a small freezer last year, yet it was large enough that my van
> hatch had to stay open. The solution? Take back roads home. Yeah, it
> was an extra half hour of travel; so what?
>
> That same guy who blew his fridge onto the roadway is an idiot
> everywhere he goes.

Yep, we're not idiots either. We brought a frig home (30 miles) in a
covered truck, laid it down (that's allowed if you follow the rules).
Yesterday, my husband took a CA King mattress to the Salvation Army about 30
miles away in this same truck, not a dirt mark on it -- nope, we're not
idiots.
and we don't mind saving money when we can.
Dee Dee

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
. ..
> I know a lot of people that pick up appliances at the big discounters and
> think they save a lot of money. Today, a guy was bringing home a brand
new
> Kenmore fridge from Sears. He took the highway, speed limit 65 mph.
> Evidently, he did not tie that big heavy box down very well as it landed
on
> the highway.
>
> I just can't imagine the call home. "Honey, you know how we saved $20
> picking up the refrigerator? Well I was just cruising along and . . . .
..

I live about two miles from Sears and a few other box stores. I have picked
up appliances that wouldn't fit well in the car (TV and OTR microwave). They
made me sign a waiver that said if it fell it, it was my fault. Of course I
didn't get close to highway speeds and there wasn't a problem. I have seen
the odd appliance along side the road, so I know that people don't use
common sense. The part that bothers me is the danger that they put others
in when they don't use common sense. One day on the way to work, a truck
lost a ladder on the freeway in front of me. I couldn't swerve because
there were cars on either side. The ladder cause me to have a flat tire,
but it could have been far worse. About thirty years ago a similar thing
happen. A steel post fell off a truck in front of me on the interstate. I
didn't have much time to react and I couldn't change lanes. The post
tore-up the bottom of the car - transmission and frame and punctured the gas
tank. I was lucky that the car didn't catch fire, but it was totaled. In
neither case was I able tot get any ID on the trucks. Ironically, my sister
who works for a large insurance company, says that hitting debris in the
road is an "at fault" accident. Apparently if you hit a deer, it is covered
under the comprehensive part of your policy. If you hit debris it is
considered an "at fault" collision that can cause an increase in your rates.

It's not always to save money... sometimes it's for convenience.

Did you ever stay home waiting for a delivery?... maybe loosing a days pay
and they don't show up.
or Maybe they needed it today, not next scheduled delivery date in your
area..

Let's hope they paid for it with a decent credit card that will replace
damaged merchandise.

I know someone who bought a Large wide screen TV and was trying to Tie it
down and the "boys"at the shipping dock insisted that the box was fine it
had enough weight... it wouldn't go anywhere. well, it went... SPLAT! on an
interstate highway!

His credit card replaced it.

Rina





"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
. ..
>I know a lot of people that pick up appliances at the big discounters and
>think they save a lot of money. Today, a guy was bringing home a brand new
>Kenmore fridge from Sears. He took the highway, speed limit 65 mph.
>Evidently, he did not tie that big heavy box down very well as it landed on
>the highway.
>
> I just can't imagine the call home. "Honey, you know how we saved $20
> picking up the refrigerator? Well I was just cruising along and . . . .
> . ."
>

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
. ..
>I know a lot of people that pick up appliances at the big discounters and
>think they save a lot of money. Today, a guy was bringing home a brand new
>Kenmore fridge from Sears. He took the highway, speed limit 65 mph.
>Evidently, he did not tie that big heavy box down very well as it landed on
>the highway.
>
> I just can't imagine the call home. "Honey, you know how we saved $20
> picking up the refrigerator? Well I was just cruising along and . . . .
> . ."
>

Ouch! Our local appliance store delivers for free and takes the old one
away.

Dawn

"DawnK" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>I know a lot of people that pick up appliances at the big discounters and
>>think they save a lot of money. Today, a guy was bringing home a brand
>>new Kenmore fridge from Sears. He took the highway, speed limit 65 mph.
>>Evidently, he did not tie that big heavy box down very well as it landed
>>on the highway.
>>
>> I just can't imagine the call home. "Honey, you know how we saved $20
>> picking up the refrigerator? Well I was just cruising along and . . . .
>> . ."
>>
>
> Ouch! Our local appliance store delivers for free and takes the old one
> away.
>
> Dawn

Hi Dawn,
I'll bet a lot of the people you see hauling their goods down the highway
live in the country where either they don't deliver at all, or the price is
too exhorbitant if you can get them to come. Trucks are useful for this
type of transfer from store to home. I've seen some trucks that deliver
that don't seem any more safe than one's own.
Our last 'delivery' was a water heater that had to be installed. They had
the water heater, but we had to wait for almost 2 weeks to get a 'delivery'
date (WITHOUT HOT WATER). This was a 'replacement,' so we had no choice and
they did haul it away, but we could've done the hauling if they couldn't.
Dee Dee

In article >,
Elmo P. Shagnasty > wrote:

>I bought a small freezer last year, yet it was large enough that my van
>hatch had to stay open. The solution? Take back roads home. Yeah, it
>was an extra half hour of travel; so what?

How much is your time worth?

-Patti
--
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pattib~pattib.org | Never ever argue with a clown.
http://www.pattib.org/ |
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
>
> For FREE?
>
> Nothing is for free. NOTHING.
>
> It's included in the price, sure. But you pay for it. You pay for
> EVERYTHING.
>
> It wasn't free by any means.

Of course it was not free, but compared to the cost of pickup at another
store, it may have been about the same. The small local dealers can be very
competitive with the big discounters today. Buying co-ops allow for much
better deals that in years gone by.

YMMV, but I'm willing to pay $20 not to have the hassle or hauling a 500
pound appliance up the stairs and then bring the old one out.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
>
> Saving $45 in exchange for that extra half hour of travel, PLUS not
> having to schedule a delivery and be home for that?
>
> Think about THAT bit, too.

Good for you. My gonads are still in their proper place too. Think about
THAT bit, too.

On Thu 14 Jul 2005 07:48:23p, Edwin Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.equipment:

>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
>>
>> Saving $45 in exchange for that extra half hour of travel, PLUS not
>> having to schedule a delivery and be home for that?
>>
>> Think about THAT bit, too.
>
> Good for you. My gonads are still in their proper place too. Think
> about THAT bit, too.

I laugh to myself when I'm at Lowe's or Home Depot and watch folks loading
up their trucks with fridges, freezers, ranges, washers, and dryers. I
wonder how many of them really thought about what it was going to be like
on the other end when they have to unload it, uncrate it, maneuver through
doorways, up/down steps, etc., without dinging the house or the
appliance. Not to mentioin how many end up at the doctor's office with a
strained back or other parts.

If they charged a hundred dollars, in most cases I'd be willing to pay it.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974


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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu 14 Jul 2005 07:48:23p, Edwin Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.equipment:
>
>>
>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> Saving $45 in exchange for that extra half hour of travel, PLUS not
>>> having to schedule a delivery and be home for that?
>>>
>>> Think about THAT bit, too.
>>
>> Good for you. My gonads are still in their proper place too. Think
>> about THAT bit, too.
>
> I laugh to myself when I'm at Lowe's or Home Depot and watch folks loading
> up their trucks with fridges, freezers, ranges, washers, and dryers. I
> wonder how many of them really thought about what it was going to be like
> on the other end when they have to unload it, uncrate it, maneuver through
> doorways, up/down steps, etc., without dinging the house or the
> appliance. Not to mentioin how many end up at the doctor's office with a
> strained back or other parts.
>
> If they charged a hundred dollars, in most cases I'd be willing to pay it.
>
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I've seen some of those people at the clinic, where I work! LOL! Or just
helping someone move, too!

Dawn

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
>>
>> For FREE?
>>
>> Nothing is for free. NOTHING.
>>
>> It's included in the price, sure. But you pay for it. You pay for
>> EVERYTHING.
>>
>> It wasn't free by any means.
>
> Of course it was not free, but compared to the cost of pickup at another
> store, it may have been about the same. The small local dealers can be
> very competitive with the big discounters today. Buying co-ops allow for
> much better deals that in years gone by.
>
> YMMV, but I'm willing to pay $20 not to have the hassle or hauling a 500
> pound appliance up the stairs and then bring the old one out.
>

Exactly! We like the customer service at that store and the price is worth
it, to us!

Dawn

In article >,
Elmo P. Shagnasty > wrote:

>Saving $45 in exchange for that extra half hour of travel, PLUS not
>having to schedule a delivery and be home for that?
>Think about THAT bit, too.

Certainly.

Half an hour of driving, plus probably an hour of loading,
unloading, uncrating, installing, etc. Plus getting rid of
the old one, in most cases.

The alternative involves me spending half a day at home doing
whatever I want to do, modulo a few minutes of interruption
while the delivery guys arrive and depart.

I typically estimate that my time is worth $100/hour. YMMV.

-Patti
--
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http://www.pattib.org/ | The crazy chick with
Check out www.tribe.net ! | the purple hair.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
>>
>> For FREE?
>>
>> Nothing is for free. NOTHING.
>>
>> It's included in the price, sure. But you pay for it. You pay for
>> EVERYTHING.
>>
>> It wasn't free by any means.
>
> Of course it was not free, but compared to the cost of pickup at another
> store, it may have been about the same. The small local dealers can be
> very competitive with the big discounters today. Buying co-ops allow for
> much better deals that in years gone by.
>
> YMMV, but I'm willing to pay $20 not to have the hassle or hauling a 500
> pound appliance up the stairs and then bring the old one out.
$20? $20? I've not seen a hauling charge for less than $70 in YEARS,
YEARS, YEARS!!! And the haulers won't even come to my area, so I have no
choice. I pay the price for not living in the burbs, but I don't blame
others for having someone else do their hauling while they themselves are
making $100 an hour; their choice. I don't think there is either right or
wrong here, just people living different lifestyles and it is their choice
whether they get bad backs, but I don't think it is something to delight in.
I don't know that everyone who hauls furniture is putting someone else's
life in jeopardy - that's a bit of hyperbole - we've all had near misses of
the trucks' re-treads and mufflers, as well.
Dee

"Dee Randall" > wrote in message

> $20? $20? I've not seen a hauling charge for less than $70 in YEARS,
> YEARS, YEARS!!! And the haulers won't even come to my area, so I have no
> choice.

Just got my electric bill. How's this for a deal. They will come and haul
away a working refrigerator that is at least 10 years old and PAY you $50.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I know a lot of people that pick up appliances at the big discounters and
> think they save a lot of money. Today, a guy was bringing home a brand new
> Kenmore fridge from Sears. He took the highway, speed limit 65 mph.
> Evidently, he did not tie that big heavy box down very well as it landed on
> the highway.
>
> I just can't imagine the call home. "Honey, you know how we saved $20
> picking up the refrigerator? Well I was just cruising along and . . . . .
> ."

What kind of idiot tries to transport a refrigerator standing upright
(unless it's in a box truck)? Good grief, just lay the damned thing on
it's back and it will be fine, won't even need any rope or straps unless
you feel the need to do 80 mph over some speed bumps.

I know they have warnings all over the place that it you don't keep the
thing upright you have to let it sit upright anywhere from 4-24 hours
before plugging it in according to the warnings - This is mostly BS.

Yes, if it's laying on it's back the oil in the compressor will migrate
out to areas where it shouldn't be, but it only takes an hour sitting
upright for things to get back where they should be, and it takes more
time than that to remove all the damned styrofoam, cardboard and tape
from the interior of the refrigerator.

As an additional note, never ever try to secure anything even remotely
heavy with bungee cords or twine. Use the ratchet or cam type web cargo
straps, they are cheap and are much much stronger and safer.

Pete C.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Thu 14 Jul 2005 07:48:23p, Edwin Pawlowski wrote in rec.food.equipment:
>
> >
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> Saving $45 in exchange for that extra half hour of travel, PLUS not
> >> having to schedule a delivery and be home for that?
> >>
> >> Think about THAT bit, too.
> >
> > Good for you. My gonads are still in their proper place too. Think
> > about THAT bit, too.
>
> I laugh to myself when I'm at Lowe's or Home Depot and watch folks loading
> up their trucks with fridges, freezers, ranges, washers, and dryers. I
> wonder how many of them really thought about what it was going to be like
> on the other end when they have to unload it, uncrate it, maneuver through
> doorways, up/down steps, etc., without dinging the house or the
> appliance. Not to mentioin how many end up at the doctor's office with a
> strained back or other parts.
>
> If they charged a hundred dollars, in most cases I'd be willing to pay it.
>

Generally I'm more comfortable with moving things myself. I know that I
won't be on a tight timetable to get to the next delivery and will have
the time to handle things with proper care. I also probably have more
rigging experience than most folks as I'm used to moving items up to
about 10,000# by my self with proper care and safety.

One time when I did have a heavy stack washer/dryer delivered (there was
no charge for delivery and the price with tax was about $300 less than
just the sticker price at the local stores), the delivery truck was
unable to negotiate the very steep driveway (too much overhang from the
rear axle) and I ended up backing my pickup up to their truck in the
street to transfer and bring it up the driveway.

Pete C.