Anybody know if you can get LG, Simpson or Westinghouse wall-oven/grill in
the US? In particular, the models shown in the latest Donna Hays magazine
(LG Solardom, and Simpson or Westinghouse oven grill).

In "So'n'so"
> wrote:

> Anybody know if you can get LG, Simpson or Westinghouse
> wall-oven/grill in the US? In particular, the models shown in the
> latest Donna Hays magazine (LG Solardom, and Simpson or Westinghouse
> oven grill).

According to LG & Westinghouse's US Web sites, neither has ovens of any
sort in their product line.

Simpson's parent company, Electrolux, operates under that name in the US
and also under the Fridgidaire name (news to me), and there are "major
kitchen appliances" in both product lines; maybe you'll find something
similar there.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

"Bert Hyman" > wrote in message
> Simpson's parent company, Electrolux, operates under that name in the US
> and also under the Fridgidaire name (news to me),

Many years ago, Frigidaire was a division of General Motors. They made good
quality appliances. GM sold the division and the name has been whored
around (and quality lessened) for the past 20 years or so. They were part
of WCI Industries a conglomerate from the old White-Westinghouse, Edison
Electric and a bunch of other names like Norge, Tappan, Crosley, Philco,
etc. They did a survey and found that Frgidaire had very good name
recognition so that became the name to sell under.

"So'n'so" > wrote in message
...
> Anybody know if you can get LG, Simpson or Westinghouse wall-oven/grill in
> the US? In particular, the models shown in the latest Donna Hays magazine
> (LG Solardom, and Simpson or Westinghouse oven grill).
>
>

LG appliances seem to have stormed the market in the US. I never heard of
them a few years ago and now they are everywhere. They seem to be very sexy
and well designed products from the few reviews that I have read. I would
consider buying their horizontal axis laundry products. Their website
doesn't list wall ovens
http://us.lge.com

I agree that Frigidaire is probably not the best choice. This is
particularly true since they are new to the Electrolux company and the line
is probably going through a transition. My sister bought a Frigidaire
convection range and she likes it, but my sister does very little cooking
and virtually no baking. She just needed a new range the Frigidaire was
cheap.

I have never seen a Westinghouse wall oven in the US. Is Fisher & Pikel an
Australian brand? They sell wall ovens in the US. Bosch and Gaganau are
two European brands that are available in the US. Miele also lists wall
oven on their USA website:
http://www.miele.com/usa/cooking/coo...p?cat=3&bhcp=1

Vox Humana wrote:
> ...
> LG appliances seem to have stormed the market in the US. I never heard of
> them a few years ago and now they are everywhere. They seem to be very sexy
> and well designed products from the few reviews that I have read...

They have been around for a while - under the "Goldstar" name (the "G" in
Lucky Goldstar.) But whereas the Goldstar name was used for years for really
cheap stuff (e.g., $50 VCRs and TVs), they seem to have reinvented themselves
as "LG" and have upscaled their offerings.

Walt

Walter Spector wrote:
>
> Vox Humana wrote:
> > ...
> > LG appliances seem to have stormed the market in the US. I never heard of
> > them a few years ago and now they are everywhere. They seem to be very sexy
> > and well designed products from the few reviews that I have read...
>
> They have been around for a while - under the "Goldstar" name (the "G" in
> Lucky Goldstar.) But whereas the Goldstar name was used for years for really
> cheap stuff (e.g., $50 VCRs and TVs), they seem to have reinvented themselves
> as "LG" and have upscaled their offerings.
>
> Walt

Another thing to keep in mind is that the "cheap" products they made
under the Goldstar name, while much maligned, were largely
indestructible. I friend had a Goldstar microwave that he got back in
the mid 80s and last I knew it was still working fine 20 years later.

My 2.5yr old LG cell phone has seen a lot of abuse (water, dust,
chemicals, drops) and is in better shape than any of it's Motorola
predecessors were after a similar time period.

Pete C.

So why do the cool appliances get marketed in Europe and Australia, but not
the US? I have seend the Electrolux Icon line, which looks very nice, but I
love the LG Solardom idea and the Wall-oven with grill concept that the
Westinghouse and simpson units have. Grrrr..

"Bert Hyman" > wrote in message
...
> In "So'n'so"
> > wrote:
>
>> Anybody know if you can get LG, Simpson or Westinghouse
>> wall-oven/grill in the US? In particular, the models shown in the
>> latest Donna Hays magazine (LG Solardom, and Simpson or Westinghouse
>> oven grill).
>
> According to LG & Westinghouse's US Web sites, neither has ovens of any
> sort in their product line.
>
> Simpson's parent company, Electrolux, operates under that name in the US
> and also under the Fridgidaire name (news to me), and there are "major
> kitchen appliances" in both product lines; maybe you'll find something
> similar there.
>
> --
> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

In "So'n'so"
> wrote:

> So why do the cool appliances get marketed in Europe and Australia,
> but not the US?

Maybe because most American consumers prefer ovens that work, as opposed
to those that are "cool"?


> I have seend the Electrolux Icon line, which looks
> very nice, but I love the LG Solardom idea and the Wall-oven with
> grill concept that the Westinghouse and simpson units have. Grrrr..
>
> "Bert Hyman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In "So'n'so"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody know if you can get LG, Simpson or Westinghouse
>>> wall-oven/grill in the US? In particular, the models shown in the
>>> latest Donna Hays magazine (LG Solardom, and Simpson or Westinghouse
>>> oven grill).
>>
>> According to LG & Westinghouse's US Web sites, neither has ovens of
>> any sort in their product line.
>>
>> Simpson's parent company, Electrolux, operates under that name in the
>> US and also under the Fridgidaire name (news to me), and there are
>> "major kitchen appliances" in both product lines; maybe you'll find
>> something similar there.




--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

"Bert Hyman" > wrote in message
...
> In "So'n'so"
> > wrote:
>
> > So why do the cool appliances get marketed in Europe and Australia,
> > but not the US?
>
> Maybe because most American consumers prefer ovens that work, as opposed
> to those that are "cool"?
>

Why do you assume that the European appliances don't work?

In "Vox Humana"
> wrote:

>
> "Bert Hyman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In "So'n'so"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > So why do the cool appliances get marketed in Europe and Australia,
>> > but not the US?
>>
>> Maybe because most American consumers prefer ovens that work, as
>> opposed to those that are "cool"?
>>
>
> Why do you assume that the European appliances don't work?

Not "don't work", just don't work sufficiently better to justify the
higher price their perceived "coolness" demands. Perhaps I should have
said that they prefer appliances that "just work".

And, judging from personal experience and from comments in this forum,
hardware from European manufacturers (even if actually assembled in the
US) seem to have a higher rate of "interesting" failures.

Even if many US-made (or US-labeled) appliances have a similar failure
rate, many will have the advantage of being a lot cheaper, while still
providing similar performance. I doubt that a Miele dishwasher will
outperform a garden-variety KitchenAid or Maytag; I know that my Bosch is
the worst performing dishwasher I've ever owned.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

Bert Hyman wrote:

> I doubt that a Miele dishwasher will
> outperform a garden-variety KitchenAid or Maytag; I know that my Bosch is
> the worst performing dishwasher I've ever owned.
>

My new Asko dishwasher is head and shoulders better, in every way, than
the Maytag it replaced. YMMV.

Matthew

--
What if you arrived at the fountain of youth, only to find dead toddlers
floating in the pond? -- John O on AFB

Bert Hyman wrote:

> In "Vox Humana"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>"Bert Hyman" > wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>In "So'n'so"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>So why do the cool appliances get marketed in Europe and Australia,
>>>>but not the US?
>>>
>>>Maybe because most American consumers prefer ovens that work, as
>>>opposed to those that are "cool"?
>>>
>>
>>Why do you assume that the European appliances don't work?
>
>
> Not "don't work", just don't work sufficiently better to justify the
> higher price their perceived "coolness" demands. Perhaps I should have
> said that they prefer appliances that "just work".
>
> And, judging from personal experience and from comments in this forum,
> hardware from European manufacturers (even if actually assembled in the
> US) seem to have a higher rate of "interesting" failures.
>
> Even if many US-made (or US-labeled) appliances have a similar failure
> rate, many will have the advantage of being a lot cheaper, while still
> providing similar performance. I doubt that a Miele dishwasher will
> outperform a garden-variety KitchenAid or Maytag; I know that my Bosch is
> the worst performing dishwasher I've ever owned.
>
Oh. You too? My Bosch has been out of operation for at least
half a year while I debate about getting it fixed or just
ripping it out. Too bad. It would be nice. IF it worked.

--
Jean B.

(Jean B.) wrote in :

> Bert Hyman wrote:
>
>> I know that my Bosch is the worst performing dishwasher I've ever
>> owned.
>>
> Oh. You too? My Bosch has been out of operation for at least
> half a year while I debate about getting it fixed or just
> ripping it out. Too bad. It would be nice. IF it worked.

We've only had one actual failure of the dishwasher in the 6 years
we've had it (ALL the front panel buttons stoped working because the
plastic gizmo that acts as the spring and actuator apparently got
brittle and all the little fingers fell off).

My complaint is that it simply doesn't clean very well.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |

"Bert Hyman" > wrote in message
...
> (Jean B.) wrote in :
>
>> Bert Hyman wrote:
>>
>>> I know that my Bosch is the worst performing dishwasher I've ever
>>> owned.
>>>
>> Oh. You too? My Bosch has been out of operation for at least
>> half a year while I debate about getting it fixed or just
>> ripping it out. Too bad. It would be nice. IF it worked.
>
> We've only had one actual failure of the dishwasher in the 6 years
> we've had it (ALL the front panel buttons stoped working because the
> plastic gizmo that acts as the spring and actuator apparently got
> brittle and all the little fingers fell off).
>
> My complaint is that it simply doesn't clean very well.
>
My Bosch cleans well but it's NOISY! The repair man costs more than an
orthodontist:-(
Graham