My primary use would be making Iranian/Persian kabob (the version that
use minced meat), meat ball (Indian style - Muslim dish), and just
stiry frying (Chinese).

I want something that is extremely exasy to wash and also not too heavy
to handle.

I do not want something that would break down in a couple of years. So
far, my search online and reading in this group makes me become aware
of Northern tool #168620 and TS-108 which I alos read that they are the
same, i.e TS-108 became model #168620 of Northern tool but how come
TS-108 is 122 Watt and the other is 1000Watt.

I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
with free shipping.

Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.

In article . com>,
" > wrote:

> My primary use would be making Iranian/Persian kabob (the version that
> use minced meat), meat ball (Indian style - Muslim dish), and just
> stiry frying (Chinese).
>
> I want something that is extremely exasy to wash and also not too heavy
> to handle.
>
> I do not want something that would break down in a couple of years. So
> far, my search online and reading in this group makes me become aware
> of Northern tool #168620 and TS-108 which I alos read that they are the
> same, i.e TS-108 became model #168620 of Northern tool but how come
> TS-108 is 122 Watt and the other is 1000Watt.
>
> I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
> 99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
> Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
> with free shipping.
>
> Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.


Search for a Porkert sausage maker. It is made in the Czech Republic.
It is hand cranked, will last a lifetime and they make models suitable
for home sized grinding jobs and on upto to very large capacity. They
are quite heavy though.

For example see:

http://www.chefdepot.net/meat.htm

Roland

Joe Doe wrote:
> In article . com>,
> " > wrote:
>
>> My primary use would be making Iranian/Persian kabob (the version that
>> use minced meat), meat ball (Indian style - Muslim dish), and just
>> stiry frying (Chinese).
>>
>> I want something that is extremely exasy to wash and also not too heavy
>> to handle.
>>
>> I do not want something that would break down in a couple of years. So
>> far, my search online and reading in this group makes me become aware
>> of Northern tool #168620 and TS-108 which I alos read that they are the
>> same, i.e TS-108 became model #168620 of Northern tool but how come
>> TS-108 is 122 Watt and the other is 1000Watt.
>>
>> I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
>> 99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
>> Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
>> with free shipping.
>>
>> Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Search for a Porkert sausage maker. It is made in the Czech Republic.
> It is hand cranked, will last a lifetime and they make models suitable
> for home sized grinding jobs and on upto to very large capacity. They
> are quite heavy though.
>
> For example see:
>
> http://www.chefdepot.net/meat.htm
>
> Roland

I have the second one down. It has been replaced by the first one. It's
lasted for years.

http://www.pierceequipment.com/grinders.html

Bonnie

bonniejean wrote:
[..]

> > Search for a Porkert sausage maker. It is made in the Czech Republic.
> > It is hand cranked, will last a lifetime and they make models suitable
> > for home sized grinding jobs and on upto to very large capacity. They
> > are quite heavy though.
> >
> > For example see:
> >
> > http://www.chefdepot.net/meat.htm
> >
> > Roland

I saw that one; Saw Mom using growing up - I even played with it; too
heavy.
>
> I have the second one down. It has been replaced by the first one. It's
> lasted for years.
>
> http://www.pierceequipment.com/grinders.html
>
> Bonnie

I noticed that some of these are lower wattage (for the less expensive
items) compared tot he ones I posted which are of the same price range.
But these are probably made better.

Can you recommend which ones to consider?

> bonniejean wrote:
>> I have the second one down. It has been replaced by the first one. It's
>> lasted for years.
>> http://www.pierceequipment.com/grinders.html>>
>> Bonnie

then wrote:
> I noticed that some of these are lower wattage (for the less expensive
> items) compared tot he ones I posted which are of the same price range.
> But these are probably made better.
>
> Can you recommend which ones to consider?

I have no idea. But when I got it, I called them and they were extremely
helpful in helping me to decide which one to get, based on how I was
going to use it. If I recall correctly, wattage had little to do with my
decision.

bonniejean wrote:
>
>> bonniejean wrote:
>>
>>> I have the second one down. It has been replaced by the first one. It's
>>> lasted for years.
>>> http://www.pierceequipment.com/grinders.html>>
>>> Bonnie
>
>
> then wrote:
>
>> I noticed that some of these are lower wattage (for the less expensive
>> items) compared tot he ones I posted which are of the same price range.
>> But these are probably made better.
>>
>> Can you recommend which ones to consider?
>
>
> I have no idea. But when I got it, I called them and they were extremely
> helpful in helping me to decide which one to get, based on how I was
> going to use it. If I recall correctly, wattage had little to do with my
> decision.

I have one of these Deni's and it works very well for the
home "grinder".

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...adv_ XSC10001

or

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P35D21C7C


--
Steve

If you can't beat 'em, they're not tied down properly.

Unless your going to grind a lot of meat, the pto on my old Kitchen Aid will
grind 2 or 3 lbs of sausage very easily. I have spent some time on the
blade, and always grind the meat just short of freezing, and add ice or
frozen stock to the mix.
> wrote in message
ups.com...
> My primary use would be making Iranian/Persian kabob (the version that
> use minced meat), meat ball (Indian style - Muslim dish), and just
> stiry frying (Chinese).
>
> I want something that is extremely exasy to wash and also not too heavy
> to handle.
>
> I do not want something that would break down in a couple of years. So
> far, my search online and reading in this group makes me become aware
> of Northern tool #168620 and TS-108 which I alos read that they are the
> same, i.e TS-108 became model #168620 of Northern tool but how come
> TS-108 is 122 Watt and the other is 1000Watt.
>
> I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
> 99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
> Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
> with free shipping.
>
> Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
>

Nartker wrote:
> Unless your going to grind a lot of meat, the pto on my old Kitchen Aid will
> grind 2 or 3 lbs of sausage very easily. I have spent some time on the
> blade, and always grind the meat just short of freezing, and add ice or
> frozen stock to the mix.

What's pto?

> wrote:
> Nartker wrote:
>> Unless your going to grind a lot of meat, the pto on my old Kitchen Aid
>> will
>> grind 2 or 3 lbs of sausage very easily. I have spent some time on the
>> blade, and always grind the meat just short of freezing, and add ice or
>> frozen stock to the mix.
>
> What's pto?

Power Take Off - the place on the front of the mixer where you put on all
the various attachments that Kitchen Aid makes. A grinder is but one of the
many that are available.

--
( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# )

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> My primary use would be making Iranian/Persian kabob (the version that
> use minced meat), meat ball (Indian style - Muslim dish), and just
> stiry frying (Chinese).
>
> I want something that is extremely exasy to wash and also not too heavy
> to handle.
>
> I do not want something that would break down in a couple of years. So
> far, my search online and reading in this group makes me become aware
> of Northern tool #168620 and TS-108 which I alos read that they are the
> same, i.e TS-108 became model #168620 of Northern tool but how come
> TS-108 is 122 Watt and the other is 1000Watt.
>
> I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
> 99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
> Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
> with free shipping.
>
> Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
>

Have you considered using a food processor?

Vox Humana wrote:
[..]

> >
>
> Have you considered using a food processor?

I don't have the need for food processor. Didn't even know that it can
grind meat. I justw an to eat health, i.e grill or stir fry, and am not
interseted in fancy cooking.

Any food processor would you recommend? price?

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Vox Humana wrote:
> [..]
>
>> >
>>
>> Have you considered using a food processor?
>
> I don't have the need for food processor. Didn't even know that it can
> grind meat. I justw an to eat health, i.e grill or stir fry, and am not
> interseted in fancy cooking.
>
> Any food processor would you recommend? price?
>

A food processor can grind meat. More accurately, it minces meat. If you
are just grinding a little meat, now and then, it should be fine. If you
are gong to grind several pounds of meat at a time then it wouldn't be a
good choice. However, it is fast and easy to clean. In addition, you can
do a lot of other chores with the FP. They all come with slicing and
shredding disks. I'm not sure how a food processor fits with the concept of
"fancy cooking." All cooking required the same set of skills - fancy or
not. A FP is just a way to mechanize some of those tasks. I also don't
understand how you would prepare food for a stir-fry with meat grinder.

Vox Humana wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > Vox Humana wrote:
> > [..]
> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Have you considered using a food processor?
> >
> > I don't have the need for food processor. Didn't even know that it can
> > grind meat. I justw an to eat health, i.e grill or stir fry, and am not
> > interseted in fancy cooking.
> >
> > Any food processor would you recommend? price?
> >
>
> A food processor can grind meat. More accurately, it minces meat. If you
> are just grinding a little meat, now and then, it should be fine. If you
> are gong to grind several pounds of meat at a time then it wouldn't be a
> good choice.

I will grind a lot and freeze them in packages that I can easily take
out.

> However, it is fast and easy to clean. In addition, you can
> do a lot of other chores with the FP. They all come with slicing and
> shredding disks.

For just one person, I wouldn't want to take out FP (and wash them) to
slice and shred.

>I'm not sure how a food processor fits with the concept of
> "fancy cooking."

Well, to do fancy cooking, one has to think a lot ( may be it's just
me who is not that of a great cook) and prepare using FP, etc.

> All cooking required the same set of skills - fancy or not.

>A FP is just a way to mechanize some of those tasks.

Well, if I have to prepare for a few people, it would be useul but
it's just me and I don't eat salad (not the American way) and so no
need to slice, and shred that much.


> I also don't understand how you would prepare food for a stir-fry with meat grinder.
I mean, to use the ground meat in stir fry with veges. One way I have
been thinking to cook is use ground chicken to fry with Thai basil (of
course onion and gralic too). Unfortunate, though I am an Asian
ethnically, rice doesn't go well with me. Since I like grilled meat
(especially Persian style), I can eat that with pita bread. May be also
with wheat torilla. Just trying to minimize cooking time/work.

Vox Humana wrote:
[..]

> >
>
> Have you considered using a food processor?

I don't have the need for food processor. Didn't even know that it can
grind meat. I justw an to eat health, i.e grill or stir fry, and am not
interseted in fancy cooking.

Any food processor would you recommend? price?

In article . com>,
" > wrote:

> Vox Humana wrote:
> [..]
>
> > >
> >
> > Have you considered using a food processor?
>
> I don't have the need for food processor. Didn't even know that it can
> grind meat. I justw an to eat health, i.e grill or stir fry, and am not
> interseted in fancy cooking.
>
> Any food processor would you recommend? price?


Food processors tend to really mush up the meat. It can become almost
pate like very quickly. In a really good grinder you have different
plates and so can adjust the size of the grind and texture.

Roland

Joe Doe wrote:

>
>
> Food processors tend to really mush up the meat. It can become almost
> pate like very quickly. In a really good grinder you have different
> plates and so can adjust the size of the grind and texture.
>
> Roland

I wouldn't call my grinder (posted earlier) a "really good"
grinder, not that it's bad either. But it has three plates
with it.

--
Steve

If you can't beat 'em, they're not tied down properly.

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> My primary use would be making Iranian/Persian kabob (the version that
> use minced meat), meat ball (Indian style - Muslim dish), and just
> stiry frying (Chinese).
>
> I want something that is extremely exasy to wash and also not too heavy
> to handle.
>
> I do not want something that would break down in a couple of years. So
> far, my search online and reading in this group makes me become aware
> of Northern tool #168620 and TS-108 which I alos read that they are the
> same, i.e TS-108 became model #168620 of Northern tool but how come
> TS-108 is 122 Watt and the other is 1000Watt.
>
> I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
> 99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
> Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
> with free shipping.
>
> Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
>
Cabela's at www.cabelas.com has a wide selection. They sell to the
hunter who is interested in home meat processing.

Del Cecchi wrote:

[..]

> >
> > Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> Cabela's at www.cabelas.com has a wide selection.

Did you buy other stuffs like winter shoes from this site?

> They sell to the
> hunter who is interested in home meat processing.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Del Cecchi wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>> >
>> > Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> Cabela's at www.cabelas.com has a wide selection.
>
> Did you buy other stuffs like winter shoes from this site?
>
>> They sell to the
>> hunter who is interested in home meat processing.
>
I bought a fine Goretex rain suit, a life jacket, and considerable
fishing equipment over the years. They also have two large retail stores
here in Minnesota. They are well thought of, and stand behind their
merchandise

Check the "bargain cave" for possible deals.

del cecchi
>

"Del Cecchi" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> Del Cecchi wrote:
>>
>> [..]
>>
>>> >
>>> > Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
>>> >
>>> Cabela's at www.cabelas.com has a wide selection.
>>
>> Did you buy other stuffs like winter shoes from this site?
>>
>>> They sell to the
>>> hunter who is interested in home meat processing.
>>
> I bought a fine Goretex rain suit, a life jacket, and considerable
> fishing equipment over the years. They also have two large retail stores
> here in Minnesota. They are well thought of, and stand behind their
> merchandise
>
> Check the "bargain cave" for possible deals.
>
> del cecchi
>>
>
I've been shopping cabelas for years,primarily online & the Owatonna
store(haven't got up to the rogers one yet) BTW there are 3 Cabelas in MN;
Rogers, Owatonna, & E. Grand Forks. Even if you're not an outsdoorsman they
have a lot of good kitchen equiptment. I've bought a lot of kitchen &
grilling stuff there & its usually good quality. I recently bought a Waring
pro food slicer at the local hardware store for $70. At Cabelas the same
thing, only with a Cabelas sticker on it, was $99. 3 weeks later in my
Cabelas flyer it was on sale for $49. It pays to check the flyers because
they sometimes to have some pretty good sales.


--
CorkyF






>

>
> I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
> 99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
> Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
> with free shipping.
>
> Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.


Amanda,
About 1 year ago I bought the Back To Basics model from Harvest
essentials. HarvestEssentials processed my order efficiently and
without glitches; shipping to me the next day.

The grinder (made in China) was packaged well and appeared to be well
made with few exceptions. The steel tooling is of very good quality,
except that the "screw" auger which forces the meat through the die had
a very slight curve on the machine I received, making the nose wobble
slightly as well during operation. This was a minor annoyance and does
not to affect the functionality of this excellent grinder. The 800
watts is ample power; processing meat for sausage with little strain
using the larger sausage stuffing tube. (Using the finest die however,
as might be used for making hot dogs or bangers, does slow down the
ejection of the meat considerably, but this is to be expected. Glad I
don't make alot of hot dogs.) The parts are easy to clean, and store
nicely in the original box.
It takes about 1 hour to fully grind and stuff and cleanup after making
about 15 pounds of sausage with this grinder. For the price, I still
see a good value in its purchase.

Pierre

Pierre wrote:
> >
> > I saw TS-108 on eBay for $155; Northern Tool 168620 is on sale for
> > 99.99. Both would cost $15-16to shipp. Also, I read about Back to
> > Basic 4500 which is 800 Watt which is 79.95 at harvestessentials.com
> > with free shipping.
> >
> > Any suggestion on brand and model would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Amanda,
> About 1 year ago I bought the Back To Basics model from Harvest
> essentials. HarvestEssentials processed my order efficiently and
> without glitches; shipping to me the next day.
>
> The grinder (made in China) was packaged well and appeared to be well
> made with few exceptions. The steel tooling is of very good quality,
> except that the "screw" auger which forces the meat through the die had
> a very slight curve on the machine I received, making the nose wobble
> slightly as well during operation. This was a minor annoyance and does
> not to affect the functionality of this excellent grinder. The 800
> watts is ample power; processing meat for sausage with little strain
> using the larger sausage stuffing tube. (Using the finest die however,
> as might be used for making hot dogs or bangers, does slow down the
> ejection of the meat considerably, but this is to be expected. Glad I
> don't make alot of hot dogs.) The parts are easy to clean, and store
> nicely in the original box.
> It takes about 1 hour to fully grind and stuff and cleanup after making
> about 15 pounds of sausage with this grinder. For the price, I still
> see a good value in its purchase.
>
> Pierre

Thanks for sharing. Does it come with different plates? How many?

Amazon is selling Back to Basic 4500 for $72 w/ free shipping.

wrote:
> Pierre wrote:
><snip>
> Thanks for sharing. Does it come with different plates? How many?
>
> Amazon is selling Back to Basic 4500 for $72 w/ free shipping.


3 plates; coarse, medium and fine, 3 sausage stuffing tubes. Good
luck.

PC