Target has for sale a series called "Classic" that looks very much like the
4 star series but about 70% cheaper. Anyone knows what the difference is?

Also I got an old Henckels cleaver from someone who never used it, but the
edge is ruined (looked like someone once tried to chop concrete with it).
Can it be professionally re-sharpened back to good working condition or it's
better to get a new one? Where is a good place to get it sharpened - there
is a place in a nearby mall that sells knives, electric razors etc... that
will sharpen knives for $10 a piece - are these places good for these kinds
of services?

Thanks,

O

Sorry. Forgot to mention location is Fort Lauderdale / Miami area regarding
the recommendation for a place to sharpen knives.

O

"orangetrader" > wrote in message
...
> Target has for sale a series called "Classic" that looks very much like
the
> 4 star series but about 70% cheaper. Anyone knows what the difference is?
>
> Also I got an old Henckels cleaver from someone who never used it, but the
> edge is ruined (looked like someone once tried to chop concrete with it).
> Can it be professionally re-sharpened back to good working condition or
it's
> better to get a new one? Where is a good place to get it sharpened -
there
> is a place in a nearby mall that sells knives, electric razors etc... that
> will sharpen knives for $10 a piece - are these places good for these
kinds
> of services?
>
> Thanks,
>
> O
>
>

"orangetrader" > wrote in message
...
> Target has for sale a series called "Classic" that looks very much like
the
> 4 star series but about 70% cheaper. Anyone knows what the difference is?


Not as well made. different blade and handle. Probably still a decent knife
but I've never use that one.


>
> Also I got an old Henckels cleaver from someone who never used it, but the
> edge is ruined (looked like someone once tried to chop concrete with it).
> Can it be professionally re-sharpened back to good working condition or
it's
> better to get a new one?


Try re-sharpening.


> Where is a good place to get it sharpened - there
> is a place in a nearby mall that sells knives, electric razors etc... that
> will sharpen knives for $10 a piece - are these places good for these
kinds
> of services?

Crap shoot. Some are OK, but if you get the kid behind the counter that just
started yesterday, he can do more harm. Look un the Yellow Pages.
Ed

In article >,
orangetrader > wrote:

> Target has for sale a series called "Classic" that looks very much like the
> 4 star series but about 70% cheaper. Anyone knows what the difference is?

The Classic line is a line of forged knives, made under contract by a
third party (but supposedly using Henckels supplied steel), in Spain.

I have no first-hand experience with these knives. In past discussions
here, knowledgeable people have spoken well of them.

--
Seth Goodman

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "orangetrader" > wrote:
>
> > Target has for sale a series called "Classic" that looks very much like
the
> > 4 star series but about 70% cheaper. Anyone knows what the difference
is?
>
> Um, you get what you pay for?
>
> Seriously, I have some expensive Henckels knives. Anthony Bourdain is
> right: you can't keep these things sharp. In the end, for real work,
> they're junk.
>

Maybe *you* can't keep then sharp but other people have no problems. I have
Henckles 4 star chefs knives in 6, 8, and 10 inch sizes. I sharpen every 4-6
months with EdgePro and use a steel regularly. They stay very sharp. I
suggest the blame lies with your technique rather than the equipment.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"orangetrader" > wrote in message
...
> Target has for sale a series called "Classic" that looks very much like
the
> 4 star series but about 70% cheaper. Anyone knows what the difference is?

Made in Spain instead of in Germany. Forged, though, and that's more than
the German made Henckels can say.
>
> Also I got an old Henckels cleaver from someone who never used it, but the
> edge is ruined (looked like someone once tried to chop concrete with it).
> Can it be professionally re-sharpened back to good working condition or
it's
> better to get a new one? Where is a good place to get it sharpened -
there
> is a place in a nearby mall that sells knives, electric razors etc... that
> will sharpen knives for $10 a piece - are these places good for these
kinds
> of services?

Makes sense to me. It's worth 10 bucks to get new bevels ground on a knife
as bad as the one you describe.

Take care.

Fred
Knife Outlet
http://www.knifeoutlet.com

>
> Thanks,
>
> O
>
>

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
>
> > Maybe *you* can't keep then sharp but other people have no problems. I
have
> > Henckles 4 star chefs knives in 6, 8, and 10 inch sizes. I sharpen every
4-6
> > months with EdgePro and use a steel regularly. They stay very sharp. I
> > suggest the blame lies with your technique rather than the equipment.
>
> But the $70 knife from japanesecutlery.com stays sharp using the same
> technique. Hmmmmm.
>

So your technique is OK for the Japanese knife and wrong for the Henckles.
Your point is...? I will also mention that my technique works for my
Henckles, Wustofs, Thiers-Issard, and three assorted knives I brought back
from Japan.

> Do you dispute Tony Bourdain, then? He's in agreement with me...

If what he claims is at odds with my experience, I certainly do dispute him.
Anyway he is a certified blowhard - an entertaining one to be sure, but he
is hardly a trusted authority when it comes to kitchen equipment.

>
> ...Maybe you don't really know what "sharp" is....
>

Oh please! Your sharpening technique is lacking so you accuse me of this? A
truly pitiful argument.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Fred > wrote:

> http://www.knifeoutlet.com

Hi Fred, you seem like a pro. Can you help me choose among these
four options:

Wusthof Grand Prix 10 pc set, $269
Wusthoff Gourmet 18 pc set, $299

Calphalon's Traditional 15 pc set, $99
Calphalon's Kitchen essentials all steel 12 pc set, $99

Some of the blocks have a nick or two, hence the extra discount but I
don't mind. Having steak knives included would be a nice convenience
but they need not be the same quality as the main ones. For example, if
I decided to get the Grand Prix set, I'll just get less expensive steak
knives to go along.

As you can see there are two very different price levels, I am just
curious how close Calphalon is in quality.

Thanks.

"Seth Goodman" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> orangetrader > wrote:
>
> > Target has for sale a series called "Classic" that looks very much like
the
> > 4 star series but about 70% cheaper. Anyone knows what the difference
is?
>
> The Classic line is a line of forged knives, made under contract by a
> third party (but supposedly using Henckels supplied steel), in Spain.
>
> I have no first-hand experience with these knives. In past discussions
> here, knowledgeable people have spoken well of them.
>
> --
> Seth Goodman

I have a couple of these knives. They hold an edge equally with the four
star and professional s knives I have. The only major difference I can see
is that they may be slightly lighter in weight .(not a bad thing)
Jack

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote:
>
> > > Do you dispute Tony Bourdain, then? He's in agreement with me...
> >
> > If what he claims is at odds with my experience, I certainly do dispute
him.
> > Anyway he is a certified blowhard - an entertaining one to be sure, but
he
> > is hardly a trusted authority when it comes to kitchen equipment.
>
> Ah, the truth comes out.
>
> Envy usually does show itelf.
>

Are you a professional moron or is it just a hobby? Either way you sure have
a knack for it.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.