I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
lengthy discussion?
Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
errupting...but cauliflower?
How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
harvest.
Surely other foods are much more interesting !
Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
cauliflower could raise ire!

"brigmave" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
> lengthy discussion?
> Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
> errupting...but cauliflower?
> How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
> What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
> fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
> I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
> elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
> harvest.
> Surely other foods are much more interesting !
> Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
> cauliflower could raise ire!
>
Not by me I can't stand it :-)

RodS

"brigmave" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
> lengthy discussion?
> Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
> errupting...but cauliflower?
> How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
> What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
> fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
> I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
> elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
> harvest.
> Surely other foods are much more interesting !
> Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
> cauliflower could raise ire!

It's not the cauliflower, it's the amount of carbs you are eating. There
are few of us here who could eat anywhere near 200g of carbs per day. We'd
be in spike city!

I rarely ever eat fruit either. But then, I never liked fruit.

"RodS" > wrote in message
...

> Not by me I can't stand it :-)

I can't stand it cooked. Can eat a small amount of it raw, but I rarely do
since it is goitrogenic.

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:53:58 -0700, brigmave >
wrote:

>What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
>fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.

Yes, of course you do... many of them fast spikers.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

brigmave wrote in message

>Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
>cauliflower could raise ire!


Of course you do realize that the discussion has nothing to do with
cauliflower? Right?

Cheri

Nicky wrote in message >...
>On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:53:58 -0700, brigmave >
>wrote:
>
>>What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
>>fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>
>Yes, of course you do... many of them fast spikers.
>
>Nicky.
>T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
>D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

LOL, but if they only eat them twice a day, in large amounts, then it
shouldn't be a problem for them. ;-)

Cheri

On Oct 7, 2:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> >I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
> > lengthy discussion?
> > Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
> > errupting...but cauliflower?
> > How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
> > What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
> > fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
> > I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
> > elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
> > harvest.
> > Surely other foods are much more interesting !
> > Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
> > cauliflower could raise ire!
>
> It's not the cauliflower, it's the amount of carbs you are eating. There
> are few of us here who could eat anywhere near 200g of carbs per day. We'd
> be in spike city!
>
> I rarely ever eat fruit either. But then, I never liked fruit.

The carbs we eat are well within the guidelines for the ADA.
Brig

On Oct 7, 4:22 am, Nicky > wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:53:58 -0700, brigmave >
> wrote:
>
> >What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
> >fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>
> Yes, of course you do... many of them fast spikers.
>
> Nicky.
> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

At the risk of repeating myself all people are NOT created equal in
metabolic functions.
We have these fruits growing on our property and we do eat them and
they do us no harm.
Brig

On Oct 7, 7:32 am, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> Nicky wrote in message >...
> >On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:53:58 -0700, brigmave >
> >wrote:
>
> >>What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
> >>fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>
> >Yes, of course you do... many of them fast spikers.
>
> >Nicky.
> >T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
> >D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> >Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
>
> LOL, but if they only eat them twice a day, in large amounts, then it
> shouldn't be a problem for them. ;-)
>
> Cheri

I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
guidelines.
You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
fact that people metabolize foods differently.
How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
laughable too?
Brig

"brigmave" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Oct 7, 2:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>> >I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
>> > lengthy discussion?
>> > Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
>> > errupting...but cauliflower?
>> > How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
>> > What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
>> > fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>> > I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
>> > elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
>> > harvest.
>> > Surely other foods are much more interesting !
>> > Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
>> > cauliflower could raise ire!
>>
>> It's not the cauliflower, it's the amount of carbs you are eating. There
>> are few of us here who could eat anywhere near 200g of carbs per day.
>> We'd
>> be in spike city!
>>
>> I rarely ever eat fruit either. But then, I never liked fruit.
>
> The carbs we eat are well within the guidelines for the ADA.

Most of us here do not follow the ADA.

"brigmave" > wrote in message
ups.com...

> I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
> guidelines.
> You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
> fact that people metabolize foods differently.
> How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
> laughable too?

Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs. You
seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.

brigmave wrote in message
. com>...
>On Oct 7, 7:32 am, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
>> Nicky wrote in message
>...
>> >On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:53:58 -0700, brigmave >
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >>What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple,
star
>> >>fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>>
>> >Yes, of course you do... many of them fast spikers.
>>
>> >Nicky.
>> >T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
>> >D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>> >Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
>>
>> LOL, but if they only eat them twice a day, in large amounts, then
it
>> shouldn't be a problem for them. ;-)
>>
>> Cheri
>
>I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
>guidelines.
>You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
>fact that people metabolize foods differently.
>How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
>laughable too?
>Brig

I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
wrong though, and often am.

Cheri

"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
. ..

> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> wrong though, and often am.

Either that or he is a very large man. I know two such. They can eat a lot
more carbs than I can. However, I'm with you and don't believe it.

Julie Bove wrote in message ...
>
>"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
...
>
>> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
>> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could
be
>> wrong though, and often am.
>
>Either that or he is a very large man. I know two such. They can
eat a lot
>more carbs than I can. However, I'm with you and don't believe it.


True, and maybe his wife is a very large woman too. :-)

Cheri

On Oct 7, 4:22 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
> > I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> > testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> > wrong though, and often am.
>
> Either that or he is a very large man. I know two such. They can eat a lot
> more carbs than I can. However, I'm with you and don't believe it.

I don't happen to be a very large man but my husband is. He shares
the same foods as I and has wonderful control.
I am not a large woman either. But both of us are involved in rather
intensive exercise programs.
Brig

On Oct 7, 4:17 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 7, 2:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> roups.com...
>
> >> >I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
> >> > lengthy discussion?
> >> > Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
> >> > errupting...but cauliflower?
> >> > How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
> >> > What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
> >> > fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
> >> > I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
> >> > elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
> >> > harvest.
> >> > Surely other foods are much more interesting !
> >> > Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
> >> > cauliflower could raise ire!
>
> >> It's not the cauliflower, it's the amount of carbs you are eating. There
> >> are few of us here who could eat anywhere near 200g of carbs per day.
> >> We'd
> >> be in spike city!
>
> >> I rarely ever eat fruit either. But then, I never liked fruit.
>
> > The carbs we eat are well within the guidelines for the ADA.
>
> Most of us here do not follow the ADA.

Could that be why you have so many problems?
Brig

On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> > I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
> > guidelines.
> > You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
> > fact that people metabolize foods differently.
> > How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
> > laughable too?
>
> Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs. You
> seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.

That seems to your interpretation and it is faulty. Do all people
Diabetics or not have to follow in your footsteps to be on the right
road to health?
Brig

On Oct 7, 4:33 pm, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in message ...
>
> >"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> >> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could
> be
> >> wrong though, and often am.
>
> >Either that or he is a very large man. I know two such. They can
> eat a lot
> >more carbs than I can. However, I'm with you and don't believe it.
>
> True, and maybe his wife is a very large woman too. :-)
>
> Cheri
For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall. My
daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing) and
I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest in
my whole life. When visiting my
mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
the areas.
I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
butter and wine.
My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
country we are in at the time
I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
everything well within normal limits.
How much do you weigh and what is your height?
Brig

brigmave wrote in message

>For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall.
My
>daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
and
>I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest
in
>my whole life. When visiting my
>mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
>the areas.
>I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
>normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
>butter and wine.
>My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
>country we are in at the time
>I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
>everything well within normal limits.
>How much do you weigh and what is your height?
>Brig


127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what you
weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound very
familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a different
nick.


Cheri

In article >,
"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> wrong though, and often am.

No-one's asked his type. I think he's type 1 on insulin, and everyone's
assuming he's type 2.

Priscilla

On Oct 7, 5:12 pm, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> brigmave wrote in message
> >For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall.
> My
> >daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
> and
> >I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest
> in
> >my whole life. When visiting my
> >mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
> >the areas.
> >I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
> >normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
> >butter and wine.
> >My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
> >country we are in at the time
> >I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
> >everything well within normal limits.
> >How much do you weigh and what is your height?
> >Brig
>
> 127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what you
> weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
> me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound very
> familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a different
> nick.
>
> Cheri

Why is it if a person is different from you you outright reject them
or start ad hominem attacks. I came here not too long ago to gain
insight in how others practice their care for Diabetes.
In good faith I posted our way of live and practice. Within our
personal support groups we find that most people are like us and do
not have huge problems with this disease because we don't let it
become the total reason for our being.
Life is just to short to make a disease the focus of ones life.
If you don't accept what I have to say that I would suggest you not
create posts directed to me and which are very critical of my way of
life.
I am very happy with it thusfar.
Thank you and have a bright future.
Brig

"brigmave" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Oct 7, 4:17 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>>
>> oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 7, 2:23 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> >> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>>
>> roups.com...
>>
>> >> >I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
>> >> > lengthy discussion?
>> >> > Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
>> >> > errupting...but cauliflower?
>> >> > How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
>> >> > What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
>> >> > fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>> >> > I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
>> >> > elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
>> >> > harvest.
>> >> > Surely other foods are much more interesting !
>> >> > Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
>> >> > cauliflower could raise ire!
>>
>> >> It's not the cauliflower, it's the amount of carbs you are eating.
>> >> There
>> >> are few of us here who could eat anywhere near 200g of carbs per day.
>> >> We'd
>> >> be in spike city!
>>
>> >> I rarely ever eat fruit either. But then, I never liked fruit.
>>
>> > The carbs we eat are well within the guidelines for the ADA.
>>
>> Most of us here do not follow the ADA.
>
> Could that be why you have so many problems?

Ha! No.

"brigmave" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>> > I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
>> > guidelines.
>> > You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
>> > fact that people metabolize foods differently.
>> > How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
>> > laughable too?
>>
>> Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs.
>> You
>> seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.
>
> That seems to your interpretation and it is faulty. Do all people
> Diabetics or not have to follow in your footsteps to be on the right
> road to health?

WTF? I do own the HUGE Joslin book on diabetes. I know what it is. And
nobody has to follow in my footsteps. I am trying to do a raw vegan diet.
I doubt that would appeal to most people, but it does to me. You seem to
know precious little about diabetes.

"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
. ..
>
> brigmave wrote in message
>
>>For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall.
> My
>>daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
> and
>>I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest
> in
>>my whole life. When visiting my
>>mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
>>the areas.
>>I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
>>normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
>>butter and wine.
>>My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
>>country we are in at the time
>>I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
>>everything well within normal limits.
>>How much do you weigh and what is your height?
>>Brig
>
>
> 127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what you
> weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
> me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound very
> familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a different
> nick.

That's what I'm thinking too. And what country is she posting from? First
it sounded like France, then Australia and now I just don't know.

"brigmave" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Oct 7, 5:12 pm, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

> Why is it if a person is different from you you outright reject them
> or start ad hominem attacks. I came here not too long ago to gain
> insight in how others practice their care for Diabetes.
> In good faith I posted our way of live and practice. Within our
> personal support groups we find that most people are like us and do
> not have huge problems with this disease because we don't let it
> become the total reason for our being.
> Life is just to short to make a disease the focus of ones life.
> If you don't accept what I have to say that I would suggest you not
> create posts directed to me and which are very critical of my way of
> life.
> I am very happy with it thusfar.
> Thank you and have a bright future.
> Brig

This isn't a support group. It's a diabetic food group. And I'm sure you
DO find in your real life support groups that most diabetics don't have any
problems with their diet, or whatever. Most diabetics don't test as they
should and wouldn't know a complication if it smacked them in the face.

I am one who had complications prior to my diagnosis. They are what brought
on my diagnosis. Many of us here have had similar situations.

I have plenty of other diseases aside from diabetes. They are my life.
Plain and simple. I can't escape them by eating some carb laden treat.

"Priscilla Ballou" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
>
>> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
>> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
>> wrong though, and often am.
>
> No-one's asked his type. I think he's type 1 on insulin, and everyone's
> assuming he's type 2.

I've asked. And he's a she. She hasn't answered. I asked again whether
she was in insulin or meds. Let's see if she answers now. I doubt it.

On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> roups.com...
>
> >> > I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
> >> > guidelines.
> >> > You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
> >> > fact that people metabolize foods differently.
> >> > How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
> >> > laughable too?
>
> >> Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs.
> >> You
> >> seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.
>
> > That seems to your interpretation and it is faulty. Do all people
> > Diabetics or not have to follow in your footsteps to be on the right
> > road to health?
>
> WTF? I do own the HUGE Joslin book on diabetes. I know what it is. And
> nobody has to follow in my footsteps. I am trying to do a raw vegan diet.
> I doubt that would appeal to most people, but it does to me. You seem to
> know precious little about diabetes.

And for what it is worth which is not much to you people! I attended
the Joslin Diabetic Center and Clinic in Boston, MA and the Mayo
Diabetic Center in Arizona.in Scottsdale to be exact. I have returned
several time to Mayo as it is very good and presents programs that my
team approves.
So I would say I know a good deal about Diabetes.
Brig

On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Priscilla Ballou > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> > I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> > testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> > wrong though, and often am.
>
> No-one's asked his type. I think he's type 1 on insulin, and everyone's
> assuming he's type 2.
>
> Priscilla

I am not a "he" and I am not a type to but inbetween 1 and 2 and I do
take insulin.
What do you take?
Brig

brigmave wrote in message

>I am not a "he" and I am not a type to but inbetween 1 and 2 and I do
>take insulin.
>What do you take?
>Brig


That explains a lot.

Cheri

brigmave wrote in message
. com>...
>On Oct 7, 5:12 pm, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
>> brigmave wrote in message
>> >For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8"
tall.
>> My
>> >daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
>> and
>> >I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my
heaviest
>> in
>> >my whole life. When visiting my
>> >mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese
of
>> >the areas.
>> >I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
>> >normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
>> >butter and wine.
>> >My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending
what
>> >country we are in at the time
>> >I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
>> >everything well within normal limits.
>> >How much do you weigh and what is your height?
>> >Brig
>>
>> 127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what
you
>> weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
>> me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound
very
>> familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a
different
>> nick.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Why is it if a person is different from you you outright reject them
>or start ad hominem attacks. I came here not too long ago to gain
>insight in how others practice their care for Diabetes.
>In good faith I posted our way of live and practice. Within our
>personal support groups we find that most people are like us and do
>not have huge problems with this disease because we don't let it
>become the total reason for our being.
>Life is just to short to make a disease the focus of ones life.
>If you don't accept what I have to say that I would suggest you not
>create posts directed to me and which are very critical of my way of
>life.
>I am very happy with it thusfar.
>Thank you and have a bright future.
>Brig


You should have mentioned you were using insulin when you were posting
all your meals. It explains a lot of why you can eat that way. BTW,
nobody started any ad hominen attacks, I simply said I didn't believe
you. Turns out, you are using insulin, so now I do believe your
numbers.You have a bright future too.

Cheri

"brigmave" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> >> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>>
>> roups.com...
>>
>> >> > I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the
>> >> > ADA
>> >> > guidelines.
>> >> > You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
>> >> > fact that people metabolize foods differently.
>> >> > How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
>> >> > laughable too?
>>
>> >> Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs.
>> >> You
>> >> seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.
>>
>> > That seems to your interpretation and it is faulty. Do all people
>> > Diabetics or not have to follow in your footsteps to be on the right
>> > road to health?
>>
>> WTF? I do own the HUGE Joslin book on diabetes. I know what it is. And
>> nobody has to follow in my footsteps. I am trying to do a raw vegan
>> diet.
>> I doubt that would appeal to most people, but it does to me. You seem to
>> know precious little about diabetes.
>
> And for what it is worth which is not much to you people! I attended
> the Joslin Diabetic Center and Clinic in Boston, MA and the Mayo
> Diabetic Center in Arizona.in Scottsdale to be exact. I have returned
> several time to Mayo as it is very good and presents programs that my
> team approves.
> So I would say I know a good deal about Diabetes.

So... You live in MA and AZ? I went to Joslin too and no way would they
tell me to eat 150 g of carbs in one sitting.

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:22:07 GMT, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>That's what I'm thinking too. And what country is she posting from? First
>it sounded like France, then Australia and now I just don't know.

Not Australia or France. US numbers, mg/dl.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
latest: Cinnamon, Spices, Herbs and Similar

"Alan S" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:22:07 GMT, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>That's what I'm thinking too. And what country is she posting from?
>>First
>>it sounded like France, then Australia and now I just don't know.
>
> Not Australia or France. US numbers, mg/dl.

But the names of the food she refers to is not American.

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:12:04 -0700, brigmave >
wrote:

>On Oct 7, 4:22 am, Nicky > wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:53:58 -0700, brigmave >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
>> >fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>>
>> Yes, of course you do... many of them fast spikers.
>>
>> Nicky.
>> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
>> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>> Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
>
>At the risk of repeating myself all people are NOT created equal in
>metabolic functions.
>We have these fruits growing on our property and we do eat them and
>they do us no harm.
>Brig

Bloody idiot. You're covering them with insulin.

So, let's sum up.
- you eat two meals a day
- you eat 200-250g carbs spread across those 2 meals
- you eat several fruits a day
- you're on insulin
- and you rarely test.

Why don't you go away and learn about diabetes and diet someplace
else. You're either a troll or a liar or terminally stupid.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

brigmave wrote:
> I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
> lengthy discussion?

You must be new to Usenet groups <vbg>


--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

In article .com>,
brigmave > wrote:

> On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Priscilla Ballou > wrote:
> > In article >,
> >
> > "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> > > I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> > > testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> > > wrong though, and often am.
> >
> > No-one's asked his type. I think he's type 1 on insulin, and everyone's
> > assuming he's type 2.
> >
> > Priscilla
>
> I am not a "he" and I am not a type to but inbetween 1 and 2 and I do
> take insulin.
> What do you take?

No more crap from you, that's for sure.

Priscilla, T2, diet and exercise only, last A1c 5.5

On Oct 7, 7:59 pm, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> brigmave wrote in message
>
> . com>...
>
>
>
> >On Oct 7, 5:12 pm, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> >> brigmave wrote in message
> >> >For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8"
> tall.
> >> My
> >> >daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
> >> and
> >> >I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my
> heaviest
> >> in
> >> >my whole life. When visiting my
> >> >mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese
> of
> >> >the areas.
> >> >I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
> >> >normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
> >> >butter and wine.
> >> >My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending
> what
> >> >country we are in at the time
> >> >I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
> >> >everything well within normal limits.
> >> >How much do you weigh and what is your height?
> >> >Brig
>
> >> 127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what
> you
> >> weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
> >> me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound
> very
> >> familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a
> different
> >> nick.
>
> >> Cheri
>
> >Why is it if a person is different from you you outright reject them
> >or start ad hominem attacks. I came here not too long ago to gain
> >insight in how others practice their care for Diabetes.
> >In good faith I posted our way of live and practice. Within our
> >personal support groups we find that most people are like us and do
> >not have huge problems with this disease because we don't let it
> >become the total reason for our being.
> >Life is just to short to make a disease the focus of ones life.
> >If you don't accept what I have to say that I would suggest you not
> >create posts directed to me and which are very critical of my way of
> >life.
> >I am very happy with it thusfar.
> >Thank you and have a bright future.
> >Brig
>
> You should have mentioned you were using insulin when you were posting
> all your meals. It explains a lot of why you can eat that way. BTW,
> nobody started any ad hominen attacks, I simply said I didn't believe
> you. Turns out, you are using insulin, so now I do believe your
> numbers.You have a bright future too.
>
> Cheri

Thank you.

On Oct 7, 9:41 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> roups.com...
>
> >> > On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >> >> "brigmave" > wrote in message
>
> >> roups.com...
>
> >> >> > I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the
> >> >> > ADA
> >> >> > guidelines.
> >> >> > You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
> >> >> > fact that people metabolize foods differently.
> >> >> > How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
> >> >> > laughable too?
>
> >> >> Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs.
> >> >> You
> >> >> seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.
>
> >> > That seems to your interpretation and it is faulty. Do all people
> >> > Diabetics or not have to follow in your footsteps to be on the right
> >> > road to health?
>
> >> WTF? I do own the HUGE Joslin book on diabetes. I know what it is. And
> >> nobody has to follow in my footsteps. I am trying to do a raw vegan
> >> diet.
> >> I doubt that would appeal to most people, but it does to me. You seem to
> >> know precious little about diabetes.
>
> > And for what it is worth which is not much to you people! I attended
> > the Joslin Diabetic Center and Clinic in Boston, MA and the Mayo
> > Diabetic Center in Arizona.in Scottsdale to be exact. I have returned
> > several time to Mayo as it is very good and presents programs that my
> > team approves.
> > So I would say I know a good deal about Diabetes.
>
> So... You live in MA and AZ? I went to Joslin too and no way would they
> tell me to eat 150 g of carbs in one sitting.

It may seem odd to you but one can have homes in more than one state!
Now I am certain they would not tell you to follow the same diet I
have as you are a different person with different metabolism.
Brig

On Oct 7, 11:34 pm, Alan S > wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:22:07 GMT, "Julie Bove"
>
> > wrote:
>
> >That's what I'm thinking too. And what country is she posting from? First
> >it sounded like France, then Australia and now I just don't know.
>
> Not Australia or France. US numbers, mg/dl.
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> latest: Cinnamon, Spices, Herbs and Similar

If one is on the go one can take their testing equipment across state
lines and countries! Unless there are new rules I am not aware of.
Brig