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I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a
pill for it soon. But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I could eat was celery. |
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"Robert of St Louis" > wrote in message
... >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > pill for it soon. > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > could eat was celery. Just to let everyone know that Robert is a friend of mine from another venue, and to introduce him here. Robert, you need to know that as a diabetic our worst enemy is starches and that our best friends are fats. If you get your blood glucose under control and you take the right supplements and treat your diabetes right, you can get your cholesterol under control too. -- Evelyn "Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, having nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well burst into laughter." -Longchenpa |
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On May 28, 9:28*am, "Evelyn" > wrote:
> "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in ... > > >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > > pill for it soon. > > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. * So I not only have to watch > > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > > cholesterol. *So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. *But they in the > > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > > could eat was celery. > > Just to let everyone know that Robert is a friend of mine from another > venue, and to introduce him here. > > Robert, you need to know that as a diabetic our worst enemy is starches and > that our best friends are fats. * If you get your blood glucose under > control and you take the right supplements and treat your diabetes right, > you can get your cholesterol under control too. > > -- > > Evelyn > > "Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, having > nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well burst > into laughter." * *-Longchenpa I did find out and googled..that I am going to be taking metafomin...the part I like it is suppose to protect your heart from the ravages of diabetes. That is comforting to know and somehow seems tied in with my cholesteral med |
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>, Robert of St Louis > wrote: > On May 28, 9:28*am, "Evelyn" > wrote: > > "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in > > > > m... > > > > >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > > > pill for it soon. > > > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. * So I not only have to watch > > > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > > > cholesterol. *So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > > > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > > > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. *But they in the > > > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > > > could eat was celery. > > > > Just to let everyone know that Robert is a friend of mine from another > > venue, and to introduce him here. > > > > Robert, you need to know that as a diabetic our worst enemy is starches and > > that our best friends are fats. * If you get your blood glucose under > > control and you take the right supplements and treat your diabetes right, > > you can get your cholesterol under control too. > > > > -- > > > > Evelyn > > > > "Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, having > > nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well burst > > into laughter." * *-Longchenpa > > I did find out and googled..that I am going to be taking > metafomin...the part I like it is suppose to protect your heart from > the ravages of diabetes. That is comforting to know and somehow seems > tied in with my cholesteral med Robert, there have been some interesting discussions about metformin on alt.support.diabetes which I think you should read. Metformin sounds great on paper, but it does have some issues, and some people can't take it. I had to go off it because of chronic diarrhea which I developed even on the extended release. BTW, welcome! And I agree with Evelyn: starches are your enemy and fat is your friend, as are fiber and exercise. PP, T2 |
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"Robert of St Louis" > wrote in message
... On May 28, 9:28 am, "Evelyn" > wrote: > "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in > ... > > >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > > pill for it soon. > > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch > > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > > cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the > > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > > could eat was celery. > > Just to let everyone know that Robert is a friend of mine from another > venue, and to introduce him here. > > Robert, you need to know that as a diabetic our worst enemy is starches > and > that our best friends are fats. If you get your blood glucose under > control and you take the right supplements and treat your diabetes right, > you can get your cholesterol under control too. > > -- > > Evelyn > > "Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, > having > nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well > burst > into laughter." -Longchenpa I did find out and googled..that I am going to be taking metafomin...the part I like it is suppose to protect your heart from the ravages of diabetes. That is comforting to know and somehow seems tied in with my cholesteral med ****************** Hi Robert, Metformin is a good drug...... IF you can handle it. In my case I got sudden attacks of diarrhea from it. Not a good thing if you are out shopping or whatever. Finally I just had to get another drug to treat my diabetes. Then the doc put me on Actos. Another problem. Lots of fluid retention and weight gain. Now I am on a third drug, and it is injected.... name of the drug is Byetta. So far so good, but it too has some side effects. I will echo what Patootie said, and recommend alt.support.diabetes. Lots of really good and knowledgeable people there. I will keep watch for your post to introduce you there. They are VERY fierce with trolls, and they often sneak in with innocent sounding questions, bringing down the wrath of the guard dogs there. :-) -- Evelyn "Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, having nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well burst into laughter." -Longchenpa |
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"Robert of St Louis" > wrote in message
... >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > pill for it soon. > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > could eat was celery. Welcome Robert, try not to panic, you'll soon know some techniques and foods that will help you do both. Post often. Cheri |
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On May 28, 12:53*pm, "Cheri" > wrote:
> "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in ... > > >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > > pill for it soon. > > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. * So I not only have to watch > > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > > cholesterol. *So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. *But they in the > > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > > could eat was celery. > > Welcome Robert, try not to panic, you'll soon know some techniques and foods > that will help you do both. Post often. > > Cheri I went to the public library this morning and got 4 diabetic food books. Here are two of my favorite titles. COMFORT FOOD FOR DIABETICS and the other is DECADENT DESERT FOR DIABETICS. I intend to make grocery lists of stuff I MIGHT like instead of cardboard and syrofoam. |
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Peppermint Patootie > wrote:
: In article : >, : Robert of St Louis > wrote: : > On May 28, 9:28?am, "Evelyn" > wrote: : > > "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in : > > : > > m... : > > : > > >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a : > > > pill for it soon. : > > > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. ? So I not only have to watch : > > > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on : > > > cholesterol. ?So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to : > > > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes : > > > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. ?But they in the : > > > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I : > > > could eat was celery. : > > : > > Just to let everyone know that Robert is a friend of mine from another : > > venue, and to introduce him here. : > > : > > Robert, you need to know that as a diabetic our worst enemy is starches and : > > that our best friends are fats. ? If you get your blood glucose under : > > control and you take the right supplements and treat your diabetes right, : > > you can get your cholesterol under control too. : > > : > > -- : > > : > > Evelyn : > : > I did find out and googled..that I am going to be taking : > metafomin...the part I like it is suppose to protect your heart from : > the ravages of diabetes. That is comforting to know and somehow seems : > tied in with my cholesteral med : Robert, there have been some interesting discussions about metformin on : alt.support.diabetes which I think you should read. Metformin sounds : great on paper, but it does have some issues, and some people can't take : it. I had to go off it because of chronic diarrhea which I developed : even on the extended release. I have been on metformin, the extended release version, for many years now and it works well for me. It ay take a whice for your system to get used to it so your doctor is likely to sart you on a small dose and slowly increase it until you are at a good dose for you.. Of course, you have to watch your starches and sugars, but there is lots besides celery you can enjoy. : BTW, welcome! And I agree with Evelyn: starches are your enemy and fat : is your friend, as are fiber and exercise. : PP, T2 Hay! What about protein? it's a good friend of mine, along with the high fiber vegeables and plant oils and fats:-) Wendy |
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![]() "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in message ... On May 28, 9:28 am, "Evelyn" > wrote: > "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in > ... > > >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > > pill for it soon. > > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch > > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > > cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the > > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > > could eat was celery. > > Just to let everyone know that Robert is a friend of mine from another > venue, and to introduce him here. > > Robert, you need to know that as a diabetic our worst enemy is starches > and > that our best friends are fats. If you get your blood glucose under > control and you take the right supplements and treat your diabetes right, > you can get your cholesterol under control too. > > -- > > Evelyn > > "Since everything is but an apparition, perfect in being what it is, > having > nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well > burst > into laughter." -Longchenpa I did find out and googled..that I am going to be taking metafomin...the part I like it is suppose to protect your heart from the ravages of diabetes. That is comforting to know and somehow seems tied in with my cholesteral med Welcome Robert. I have been on Metformin for 10 years now.....Imodium has become my best friend. I found I cannot tolerate more than 1500 mg a day without feeling very poorly but can handle the 1500 mg ok. I do much better on the ER than on the twice a day Metformin. So make sure your Dr starts you out slowly and stock up on Imodium ![]() Imodium an hour before we planned to go anywhere regardless if I had Diarrhea or not....because Murphy's law guarantees that as soon as you are walking the Mall or being seated at a restaurant the attack will happen...so my motto is be prepared ![]() after a few months....I still get them from time to time...so be prepared ![]() Jacquie |
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![]() "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in message ... >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > pill for it soon. > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > could eat was celery. Newsflash! Fat doesn't raise cholesterol. Excess carbs raise cholesterol. You do need some carbs. But how many is enough and not too much is something that varies from person to person. Try eating protein like meat, cheese, eggs, nuts and seeds and plenty of non starchy vegetables. Add in starchy things gradually to see how much you can tolerate. Beans might be the exception. Yes they are starchy but also high in fiber (that's good!) and contain protein. Just remember, the right kind of fat is your friend. What fat is good? Avocado, olive, and plain coconut oil. Some say canola oil is good. Others think it is bad. |
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![]() "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in message ... On May 28, 12:53 pm, "Cheri" > wrote: > "Robert of St Louis" > wrote in > ... > > >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > > pill for it soon. > > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch > > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > > cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the > > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > > could eat was celery. > > Welcome Robert, try not to panic, you'll soon know some techniques and > foods > that will help you do both. Post often. > > Cheri I went to the public library this morning and got 4 diabetic food books. Here are two of my favorite titles. COMFORT FOOD FOR DIABETICS and the other is DECADENT DESERT FOR DIABETICS. I intend to make grocery lists of stuff I MIGHT like instead of cardboard and syrofoam. You might think twice before making stuff from those books. Most of them are not really suitable for diabetics. |
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"Robert of St Louis" > wrote in message
... >I was officially diagnosed as diabetic yesterday and will be taking a > pill for it soon. > But I also have to watch my cholesterol. So I not only have to watch > all starches, which are the one substitute for folks cutting down on > cholesterol. So I feel like any real alternatives are zero. I went to > a nutrition class for diabetes and was going to take all kind of notes > to find out what I could eat...and right em down. But they in the > class ...all I remembered was all starches turn to sugar and all I > could eat was celery. .. Robert of St Louis --- Remember that the low-carbohydrate diets (low in both sugar and starch) tend to be more successful in controlling type 2 diabetes than the low-fat diets often recommended, if you're able to follow the low-carbohydrate diets properly during the first one to three months it takes for them to start controlling your appetite. http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/new.php Your liver will make saturated fats out of any excess carbohydrates. Your liver also makes cholesterol out of carbohydrates if your brain signals that it needs more cholesterol (a significant percentage of your brain IS cholesterol). Therefore, a low-carbohydrate diet is often more successful at controlling your cholesterol levels than a low-cholesterol diet. You could also try a high-protein diet if you're not already too far into kidney problems. For early kidney problems, try adding a vitamin called thiamine or vitamin B1: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7796073.stm Robert Miles |
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