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Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K
"Peanutjake" > wrote in message ... > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG > > Associated Press > > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have banned several > vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful if > eaten regularly. It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. Has the U.S. recently banned any Danish products? What contry is the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly someplace besides Denmark? does Kellog have a manufacturing facility in Demark? BJ |
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Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K
BJ in Texas wrote:
> "Peanutjake" > wrote in message > ... > >>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could > > harm children > >>CHRISTIAN WIENBERG >> >>Associated Press >> >>COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have > > banned several > >>vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying > > they could be harmful if > >>eaten regularly. > > > It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. I doubt it. Denmark has high standards regarding food laws, and a policy of not accepting political interference. It has banned other products that are readily available in the western world. It has banned Red Bull, most common pesticides, amalgam in dentistry, water fluoridation, many supplements, etc., etc. Denmark is probably less politically influenced than most western countries. It seems (unusually) to put its people first, ahead of profits for the private sector. Other countries could learn from it. Regards David |
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Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K
In article >, aspen3
@freeuk.com says... > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > wrote: > > >"Pete" > wrote in message ... > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > >> > wrote: > > >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > >> Why you x poast this shit? > > >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. > > What is so important about it? > > > >It is not off topic. > > I never said it was > > >It is not spam. > > I never said it was > > >PJ > > > This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of mixed vegetables? Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? Later |
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Denmark bans Rice Krispies-Corn Flakes-Special K
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 03:47:51 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
> wrote: >In article >, aspen3 says... >> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >> > wrote: >> >> >"Pete" > wrote in message ... >> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children >> >> Why you x poast this shit? >> >> >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. >> >> What is so important about it? >> >> >> >It is not off topic. >> >> I never said it was >> >> >It is not spam. >> >> I never said it was >> >> >PJ >> >> >> >This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't >sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, >it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing >but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed >together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about >a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart >of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. > >The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the >cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just >now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping >instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about >12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of >mixed vegetables? > >Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all >it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with >refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it >have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? > >Later What are the times after eating that those readings represent? Are they one-hour, two-hour or something else. Presuming you are T2, I'd suspect you're peaking very high very quickly then plunging low. Try a test next time at 30 mins and 1 hr. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 09:25:46 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
> wrote: >In article >, says... >> On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 03:47:51 -0500, Schuyler Colfax >> > wrote: >> >> >In article >, aspen3 >> says... >> >> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >"Pete" > wrote in message ... >> >> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children >> >> >> Why you x poast this shit? >> >> >> >> >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. >> >> >> >> What is so important about it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >It is not off topic. >> >> >> >> I never said it was >> >> >> >> >It is not spam. >> >> >> >> I never said it was >> >> >> >> >PJ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't >> >sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, >> >it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing >> >but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed >> >together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about >> >a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart >> >of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. >> > >> >The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the >> >cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just >> >now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping >> >instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about >> >12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of >> >mixed vegetables? >> > >> >Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all >> >it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with >> >refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it >> >have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? >> > >> >Later >> >> What are the times after eating that those readings represent? Are they >> one-hour, two-hour or something else. Presuming you are T2, I'd suspect >> you're peaking very high very quickly then plunging low. >> >> Try a test next time at 30 mins and 1 hr. >> >> >> Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. >> Remove weight and carbs to email. >> >I there, well about twelve hours had passed when I took the tests. I >just awoke now and took my sugar. It is "101" That's really weird. I >have eaten nothing in the last 5.5 hours while I slept, but it went up >23 points. > >I've lost about twenty pounds over the last few months also. Perhaps >that is making things a little easier. I'm just glad it didn't drop to >below zero while I slept. I could have woke up to find that the >groundhog was bringing me my mail. > >Spater That time difference explains it. Two points. To see what a specific meal or food does to you, test at one and two hours after eating, not half a day later. And we call the "high" in the morning the "dawn effect", where your body releases stored energy to get you going in the morning. Jennifer explains it better than I at http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm . Read that, and put it into practice. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:30:12 -0400, Ted Rosenberg
> wrote: >No twit >try learning how to read, they were banned because of too many added >VITAMINS, not sugar or salt. > >jren57 wrote: >> "Ted Rosenberg" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high levels of >>>VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't believe in added >> >> vitamins. >> >> The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels of sugar and >> salt added, and that applies to Heinz products as well! >> >> the real problem with kelloggs products is that they are shit, which also isn't in the article - try learning how to tolerate |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:25:15 +0100, Wood > wrote:
>>> The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels of sugar and >>> salt added, and that applies to Heinz products as well! >>> >>> >the real problem with kelloggs products is that they are shit, which >also isn't in the article - try learning how to tolerate The brand is irrelevant. It's the contents that matter. Processed cereals. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:25:15 +0100, Wood > wrote:
>>> The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels of sugar and >>> salt added, and that applies to Heinz products as well! >>> >>> >the real problem with kelloggs products is that they are shit, which >also isn't in the article - try learning how to tolerate The brand is irrelevant. It's the contents that matter. Processed cereals. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:25:15 +0100, Wood > wrote:
>>> The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels of sugar and >>> salt added, and that applies to Heinz products as well! >>> >>> >the real problem with kelloggs products is that they are shit, which >also isn't in the article - try learning how to tolerate The brand is irrelevant. It's the contents that matter. Processed cereals. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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Pete wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > wrote: > > >>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > > > Why you x poast this shit? > If you object to the crossposts so much, why didn't you remove them before replying? I don't feel that the crossposts were excessive, the post is likely to have interest in all of the groups where it was posted. Regards David |
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No twit
try learning how to read, they were banned because of too many added VITAMINS, not sugar or salt. jren57 wrote: > "Ted Rosenberg" > wrote in message > ... > >>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high levels of >>VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't believe in added > > vitamins. > > The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels of sugar and > salt added, and that applies to Heinz products as well! > > -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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"Ted Rosenberg" > wrote in message
... > No twit > try learning how to read, they were banned because of too many added > VITAMINS, not sugar or salt. > Yes , and the radio news said ( citing the posted article ) said that Denmark says that too much vitamin fortification can cause kidney trouble and trouble with other organs too , especially in children . > jren57 wrote: > > "Ted Rosenberg" > wrote in message > > ... > > > >>The REASON they were rejected is because they had high levels of > >>VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't believe in added > > > > vitamins. > > > > The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels of sugar and > > salt added, and that applies to Heinz products as well! > > > > > > -- > "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a > hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" > Glen Cook |
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"Peanutjake" > wrote in message ... > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG > > Associated Press > > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have banned several > vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful if > eaten regularly. It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. Has the U.S. recently banned any Danish products? What contry is the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly someplace besides Denmark? does Kellog have a manufacturing facility in Demark? BJ |
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Instead of simply crossposting some half baked comment, it would have
been helpful to bother to check the FACTS first, and find out that the reason they are banned is because Denmark, like many other countries, is getting concerned that people, particularly children, are taking to many vitimines, and that they are BAD for them. Peanutjake wrote: > "Pete" > wrote in message ... > >>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > wrote: >> >> >>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children >> >>Why you x poast this shit? >> > > > Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. > > It is not off topic. > It is not spam. > > PJ > > -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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In article >, aspen3
@freeuk.com says... > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > wrote: > > >"Pete" > wrote in message ... > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > >> > wrote: > > >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > >> Why you x poast this shit? > > >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. > > What is so important about it? > > > >It is not off topic. > > I never said it was > > >It is not spam. > > I never said it was > > >PJ > > > This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of mixed vegetables? Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? Later |
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Peanutjake > wrote on Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55
-0400: > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could > harm children > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG > Associated Press > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have > banned several vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker > Kellogg, saying they could be harmful if eaten regularly. > The 18 products, which include enriched versions of popular brands already on > the Danish market like Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be > launched in Denmark soon. "We've turned down applications for a number of > enriched products which will have toxic effects in the doses Kellogg uses," > said Paolo Drotsby of the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration. Drotsby > said that if eaten regularly, the products could damage children's livers and > kidneys, as well as the fetuses of pregnant women. But, presumably, other foetuses will be OK. Provided, of course, they don't eat too much Special K. Which reminds me - some while ago, I remember Special K being reclassified by the BDA from "sort of OK in moderation" to "only touch with a barge pole" after its recipe was changed to use vastly more sugar than previously. > Kellogg said it was puzzled by the rejection, as many of the products are > being sold already in several other European countries. > "We're extremely concerned and mystified, as we never have had such > problems with health authorities before in Kellogg's history," said > John Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in the Nordic region. The > 18 products include 12 types of cereal brands and six types of snack or > breakfast bars. Buckles said the European enrichment recipes were > slightly different from the ones used in the United States, although > Kellogg's products are fortified there as well and have been since the > 1930s. "Our next step is to work with Danish authorities and see if we > can come up with a solution. The important thing here is for us to work > in concert," Buckles said. > Chris Wermann, a spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have further > discussions with Danish authorities about the importance of vitamins in > cereals." Talk about patronising *******s! Perhaps Mr. Wermann would do better to learn from the Danes about the importance of properly balanced diets, and to modify his company's recipes to conform. > Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could apply again if the company > removes or reduces the doses of the vitamins and minerals in question. > The rejection was delivered to Kellogg last month after a government > laboratory conducted a scientific examination of the ingredient lists > provided by the company, Drotsby said. Kellogg Co., based in Battle > Creek, Mich., operates in 160 countries. Its shares rose a penny to > $41.11 in early afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange. -- Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany) Email: ; to decode, wherever there is a repeated letter (like "aa"), remove half of them (leaving, say, "a"). |
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Pete wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > wrote: > > >>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > > > Why you x poast this shit? > If you object to the crossposts so much, why didn't you remove them before replying? I don't feel that the crossposts were excessive, the post is likely to have interest in all of the groups where it was posted. Regards David |
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"Ted Rosenberg" > wrote in message ... > The REASON they were rejected is because they had high levels of > VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't believe in added vitamins. The real problem with Kellogg's cereals are the high levels of sugar and salt added, and that applies to Heinz products as well! |
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The REASON they were rejected is because they had high levels of
VITAMINS added, and Denmark's food agency doesn't believe in added vitamins. Peanutjake wrote: > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG > > Associated Press > > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have banned several > vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying they could be harmful if > eaten regularly. > The 18 products, which include enriched versions of popular brands already on the Danish market like > Corn Flakes, Rice Krispies and Special K, were to be launched in Denmark soon. > "We've turned down applications for a number of enriched products which will have toxic effects in > the doses Kellogg uses," said Paolo Drotsby of the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration. > Drotsby said that if eaten regularly, the products could damage children's livers and kidneys, as > well as the fetuses of pregnant women. > Kellogg said it was puzzled by the rejection, as many of the products are being sold already in > several other European countries. > "We're extremely concerned and mystified, as we never have had such problems with health authorities > before in Kellogg's history," said John Buckles, managing director for Kellogg in the Nordic region. > The 18 products include 12 types of cereal brands and six types of snack or breakfast bars. Buckles > said the European enrichment recipes were slightly different from the ones used in the United > States, although Kellogg's products are fortified there as well and have been since the 1930s. > "Our next step is to work with Danish authorities and see if we can come up with a solution. The > important thing here is for us to work in concert," Buckles said. > Chris Wermann, a spokesman for Kellogg Europe, added: "We will have further discussions with Danish > authorities about the importance of vitamins in cereals." > Meanwhile, Drotsby said Kellogg could apply again if the company removes or reduces the doses of the > vitamins and minerals in question. > The rejection was delivered to Kellogg last month after a government laboratory conducted a > scientific examination of the ingredient lists provided by the company, Drotsby said. > Kellogg Co., based in Battle Creek, Mich., operates in 160 countries. Its shares rose a penny to > $41.11 in early afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange. > > > -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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In article >, aspen3
@freeuk.com says... > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > wrote: > > >"Pete" > wrote in message ... > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > >> > wrote: > > >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > >> Why you x poast this shit? > > >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. > > What is so important about it? > > > >It is not off topic. > > I never said it was > > >It is not spam. > > I never said it was > > >PJ > > > This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of mixed vegetables? Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? Later |
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It sounds like you are experiencing a reactive low blood sugar. This is not
good. Your blood sugar probably surged very high and then over time secreted a large amount of insulin which brought the blood sugar down again. Typically this will happen for a while, then it will stop--because your beta cells have lost their ability to make any more insulin. At that point you'll just go high and stay there longer and longer. I experienced the same thing when I was younger. Now I don't go low no matter what I eat but I sure can go high. But the important thing to note is that this reactive swing means your beta cells still can make insulin. Why not take a load off them by cutting way back on the carbs now, so that you preserve what function you have left? That will mean you need a lot less medication later. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.7 . Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/ Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm "Schuyler Colfax" > wrote in message .. . > In article >, aspen3 > @freeuk.com says... > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > > wrote: > > > > >"Pete" > wrote in message ... > > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > > >> Why you x poast this shit? > > > > >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. > > > > What is so important about it? > > > > > > >It is not off topic. > > > > I never said it was > > > > >It is not spam. > > > > I never said it was > > > > >PJ > > > > > > > This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't > sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, > it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing > but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed > together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about > a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart > of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. > > The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the > cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just > now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping > instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about > 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of > mixed vegetables? > > Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all > it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with > refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it > have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? > > Later |
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I doubt seriously your reading is correct.
Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and see what you get My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken immediately) were 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading Actual is obviously in the 90-110 range Schuyler Colfax wrote: > In article >, aspen3 > @freeuk.com says... > >>On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > wrote: >> >> >>>"Pete" > wrote in message ... >>> >>>>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > wrote: >> >>>>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children >>>> >>>>Why you x poast this shit? >> >>>Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. >> >>What is so important about it? >> >> >> >>>It is not off topic. >> >>I never said it was >> >> >>>It is not spam. >> >>I never said it was >> >> >>>PJ >> >> >> > This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't > sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, > it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing > but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed > together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about > a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart > of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. > > The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the > cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just > now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping > instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about > 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of > mixed vegetables? > > Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all > it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with > refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it > have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? > > Later -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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font problems - I am now assuming that you are posting "73" followed by
an exclamation point, not "731" The reading STILL may be wrong, asnd should have been chcked. Also remember that a reading of 73, WITHOUT a major problem means between 59 and 91. going from 71 to 78 is NOT "rising". The readings are too close to tell Ted Rosenberg wrote: > I doubt seriously your reading is correct. > > Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and see what you get > > My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken immediately) were > 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading Actual is obviously in the > 90-110 range > > Schuyler Colfax wrote: > >> In article >, aspen3 >> @freeuk.com says... >> >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> "Pete" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >>>>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they >>>>>> could harm children >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why you x poast this shit? >>> >>> >>>> Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic >>>> newsgroups. >>> >>> >>> What is so important about it? >>> >>> >>> >>>> It is not off topic. >>> >>> >>> I never said it was >>> >>> >>>> It is not spam. >>> >>> >>> I never said it was >>> >>> >>>> PJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't >> sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my >> amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been >> eating nothing but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and >> Cheerios all mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I >> started adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're >> talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size microwave >> bowls full of cereal. >> >> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the >> cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it >> just now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is >> dropping instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened >> cereal about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is >> a big plate of mixed vegetables? >> >> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If >> all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal >> with refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? >> Does it have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg >> products? >> >> Later > > -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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font problems - I am now assuming that you are posting "73" followed by
an exclamation point, not "731" The reading STILL may be wrong, asnd should have been chcked. Also remember that a reading of 73, WITHOUT a major problem means between 59 and 91. going from 71 to 78 is NOT "rising". The readings are too close to tell Ted Rosenberg wrote: > I doubt seriously your reading is correct. > > Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and see what you get > > My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken immediately) were > 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading Actual is obviously in the > 90-110 range > > Schuyler Colfax wrote: > >> In article >, aspen3 >> @freeuk.com says... >> >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> "Pete" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >>>>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they >>>>>> could harm children >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why you x poast this shit? >>> >>> >>>> Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic >>>> newsgroups. >>> >>> >>> What is so important about it? >>> >>> >>> >>>> It is not off topic. >>> >>> >>> I never said it was >>> >>> >>>> It is not spam. >>> >>> >>> I never said it was >>> >>> >>>> PJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't >> sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my >> amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been >> eating nothing but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and >> Cheerios all mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I >> started adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're >> talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size microwave >> bowls full of cereal. >> >> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the >> cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it >> just now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is >> dropping instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened >> cereal about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is >> a big plate of mixed vegetables? >> >> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If >> all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal >> with refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? >> Does it have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg >> products? >> >> Later > > -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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font problems - I am now assuming that you are posting "73" followed by
an exclamation point, not "731" The reading STILL may be wrong, asnd should have been chcked. Also remember that a reading of 73, WITHOUT a major problem means between 59 and 91. going from 71 to 78 is NOT "rising". The readings are too close to tell Ted Rosenberg wrote: > I doubt seriously your reading is correct. > > Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and see what you get > > My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken immediately) were > 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading Actual is obviously in the > 90-110 range > > Schuyler Colfax wrote: > >> In article >, aspen3 >> @freeuk.com says... >> >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> "Pete" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >>>>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>> Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they >>>>>> could harm children >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why you x poast this shit? >>> >>> >>>> Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic >>>> newsgroups. >>> >>> >>> What is so important about it? >>> >>> >>> >>>> It is not off topic. >>> >>> >>> I never said it was >>> >>> >>>> It is not spam. >>> >>> >>> I never said it was >>> >>> >>>> PJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't >> sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my >> amazement, it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been >> eating nothing but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and >> Cheerios all mixed together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I >> started adding about a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're >> talking about a quart of milk and one of those medium size microwave >> bowls full of cereal. >> >> The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the >> cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it >> just now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is >> dropping instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened >> cereal about 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is >> a big plate of mixed vegetables? >> >> Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If >> all it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal >> with refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? >> Does it have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg >> products? >> >> Later > > -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 03:47:51 -0500, Schuyler Colfax
> wrote: >In article >, aspen3 says... >> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >> > wrote: >> >> >"Pete" > wrote in message ... >> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children >> >> Why you x poast this shit? >> >> >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. >> >> What is so important about it? >> >> >> >It is not off topic. >> >> I never said it was >> >> >It is not spam. >> >> I never said it was >> >> >PJ >> >> >> >This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't >sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, >it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing >but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed >together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about >a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart >of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. > >The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the >cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just >now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping >instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about >12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of >mixed vegetables? > >Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all >it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with >refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it >have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? > >Later What are the times after eating that those readings represent? Are they one-hour, two-hour or something else. Presuming you are T2, I'd suspect you're peaking very high very quickly then plunging low. Try a test next time at 30 mins and 1 hr. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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It sounds like you are experiencing a reactive low blood sugar. This is not
good. Your blood sugar probably surged very high and then over time secreted a large amount of insulin which brought the blood sugar down again. Typically this will happen for a while, then it will stop--because your beta cells have lost their ability to make any more insulin. At that point you'll just go high and stay there longer and longer. I experienced the same thing when I was younger. Now I don't go low no matter what I eat but I sure can go high. But the important thing to note is that this reactive swing means your beta cells still can make insulin. Why not take a load off them by cutting way back on the carbs now, so that you preserve what function you have left? That will mean you need a lot less medication later. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.7 . Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/ Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm "Schuyler Colfax" > wrote in message .. . > In article >, aspen3 > @freeuk.com says... > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > > wrote: > > > > >"Pete" > wrote in message ... > > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> >Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children > > >> Why you x poast this shit? > > > > >Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. > > > > What is so important about it? > > > > > > >It is not off topic. > > > > I never said it was > > > > >It is not spam. > > > > I never said it was > > > > >PJ > > > > > > > This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't > sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, > it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing > but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed > together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about > a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart > of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. > > The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the > cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just > now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping > instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about > 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of > mixed vegetables? > > Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all > it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with > refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it > have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? > > Later |
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I doubt seriously your reading is correct.
Whenever you get an odd reading take two more readings and see what you get My BG read 295 last night, my next two readings (taken immediately) were 95 and 104. I ignored the high reading Actual is obviously in the 90-110 range Schuyler Colfax wrote: > In article >, aspen3 > @freeuk.com says... > >>On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:27:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > wrote: >> >> >>>"Pete" > wrote in message ... >>> >>>>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0400, "Peanutjake" > wrote: >> >>>>>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could harm children >>>> >>>>Why you x poast this shit? >> >>>Because it may be important news to the readers of four diabetic newsgroups. >> >>What is so important about it? >> >> >> >>>It is not off topic. >> >>I never said it was >> >> >>>It is not spam. >> >>I never said it was >> >> >>>PJ >> >> >> > This is really strange folks. I'm up at this hour 0342 because I can't > sleep. I came into the office and took my blood sugar. To my amazement, > it was 73! What Is odd here is that all week I have been eating nothing > but one big bowl of corn flakes, Rice Krispies, and Cheerios all mixed > together with skim milk, Splenda and Nutrasweet. I started adding about > a cup of sugar to really get it right. Now we're talking about a quart > of milk and one of those medium size microwave bowls full of cereal. > > The strange thing is my blood sugar drops drastically after eating the > cereal with sugar. It should have gone up to 200 or more. I took it just > now and it is up to 78. I just don't understand why it is dropping > instead of rising after eating all of that highly sweetened cereal about > 12 hours ago. The only other thing I have eaten today is a big plate of > mixed vegetables? > > Am I on to something good here? Or do I have some other problem? If all > it takes to keep my blood sugar low is to eat a big bowl of cereal with > refined sugar, I think I can handle that. :-) What gives here? Does it > have something to do with the Denmark controversy over Kellogg products? > > Later -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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"BJ in Texas" > wrote in message m... > > "Peanutjake" > wrote in message > ... > > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could > harm children > > > > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG > > > > Associated Press > > > > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have > banned several > > vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying > they could be harmful if > > eaten regularly. > > It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. Has the U.S. > recently banned any Danish products? > What contry is the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly someplace besides > Denmark? does Kellog > have a manufacturing facility in Demark? BJ, not every decision in the world is political, or based on the American view. Kellogg puts way too much crap in it's "special brew" cereal, and the Danes don't like it. It's simple really. Beav |
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BJ in Texas wrote:
> "Peanutjake" > wrote in message > ... > >>Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could > > harm children > >>CHRISTIAN WIENBERG >> >>Associated Press >> >>COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have > > banned several > >>vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying > > they could be harmful if > >>eaten regularly. > > > It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. I doubt it. Denmark has high standards regarding food laws, and a policy of not accepting political interference. It has banned other products that are readily available in the western world. It has banned Red Bull, most common pesticides, amalgam in dentistry, water fluoridation, many supplements, etc., etc. Denmark is probably less politically influenced than most western countries. It seems (unusually) to put its people first, ahead of profits for the private sector. Other countries could learn from it. Regards David |
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"BJ in Texas" > wrote in message m... > > "Peanutjake" > wrote in message > ... > > Danish health authorities ban some Kellogg products, saying they could > harm children > > > > CHRISTIAN WIENBERG > > > > Associated Press > > > > COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Danish health officials said Wednesday they have > banned several > > vitamin-enriched products of U.S. breakfast cereal maker Kellogg, saying > they could be harmful if > > eaten regularly. > > It is likely political rather than content of the cereals. Has the U.S. > recently banned any Danish products? > What contry is the cereal to be manufactured in? Possibly someplace besides > Denmark? does Kellog > have a manufacturing facility in Demark? BJ, not every decision in the world is political, or based on the American view. Kellogg puts way too much crap in it's "special brew" cereal, and the Danes don't like it. It's simple really. Beav |
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