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Diet Rite is caffeine free and made with splenda. It has several flavors
including cola. "EwwHww" > wrote in message news ![]() > Tiger Lily wrote: > > Diet Pepsi Caffiene free > > > > available at your grocery........ or ask them for > > it if they don't carry it yet > > > > kate > > > > Thanks Kate. At the stores in Fort Worth, the only Diet Pepsi that is > caffeine free uses Aspartame, and I can't have that. > > Wayne > > |
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![]() "Alan S" > wrote in message ... > Do what you like - but the nonsense written about aspartame > is exactly that - nonsense. Alan, If aspartame doesn't bother you then use it but it does affect some people adversely. It is not nonsense. I agree saying that it will cause everyone a problem is nonsense but to say it will not cause problems in some people is wrong. Both my daughter and I cannot tolerate aspartame in any form. We have done diet elimination and every time we add aspartame back to our diet we have problem. For us we will avoid aspartame. She also cannot tolerate Splenda so she is out of luck. Very chemically sensitive. |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:56:48 GMT, "Gabe"
> wrote: > >"Alan S" > wrote in message .. . >> Do what you like - but the nonsense written about aspartame >> is exactly that - nonsense. >Alan, >If aspartame doesn't bother you then use it but it does affect some people >adversely. It is not nonsense. I agree saying that it will cause everyone >a problem is nonsense but to say it will not cause problems in some people >is wrong. Both my daughter and I cannot tolerate aspartame in any form. >We have done diet elimination and every time we add aspartame back to our >diet we have problem. For us we will avoid aspartame. She also cannot >tolerate Splenda so she is out of luck. Very chemically sensitive. > Hi Gabe Can't argue with that - individual allergies are always a problem for any food item. You've done it correctly, by elimination with medical supervision. Similarly, my wife cannot eat tomato skin, but that doesn't make it wrong or dangerous for the great majority of those considering whether tomatoes should be part of their diet. My comment was concerning "the nonsense written about aspartame" attributing most of the world's ills to this substance; most of the nonsense originates from the followers of a particular fanatical source. Gradually, the lie becomes part of general belief. Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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Alan S > wrote in
: <snip> > > Can't argue with that - individual allergies are always a > problem for any food item. You've done it correctly, by > elimination with medical supervision. Similarly, my wife > cannot eat tomato skin, but that doesn't make it wrong or > dangerous for the great majority of those considering > whether tomatoes should be part of their diet. <snip> > Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. Tomato *skin*? Can she eat the rest of the tomato? I always wondered - the rest of the plant is poisonous (as is the potato plant, except for the tuber) - when they discovered that part of the plant was poisonous, who was dumb enough to keep trying the other parts until they found the part that wasn't??? Sherry |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:47:27 -0500, Sherry
> wrote: >Alan S > wrote in : > ><snip> >> >> Can't argue with that - individual allergies are always a >> problem for any food item. You've done it correctly, by >> elimination with medical supervision. Similarly, my wife >> cannot eat tomato skin, but that doesn't make it wrong or >> dangerous for the great majority of those considering >> whether tomatoes should be part of their diet. <snip> >> Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. > >Tomato *skin*? Can she eat the rest of the tomato? > >I always wondered - the rest of the plant is poisonous (as is the >potato plant, except for the tuber) - when they discovered that part of >the plant was poisonous, who was dumb enough to keep trying the other >parts until they found the part that wasn't??? > >Sherry She has a unique gastric system (I hope she never reads this). Skinned tomatoes are OK, but if she eats them with the skin on they just come back up in little bits for an hour or two. No discomfort or medical difficulties, but rather disconcerting. So, when making a salad we've developed techniques for skinning, like putting the tomato in a mug of boiling water for a few minutes, then dunking it in cold water before peeling. It becomes just an accepted part of general food preparation. Alternatively, I cut the skins off a cold tomato for my salad and she has the rest. So, I understand why those who have a particular allergy may tend to see that it applies to all; but that's no truer than that carbs will spike everyone - she is non-diabetic and loves her potatoes and pasta and never has BGs above 5.5(100). And we have both been drinking copious quantities of aspartame-sweetened soft drinks for over three years. Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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oh good it's not just me
and i have the same problem with all peppers except orange peppers (and don'tcook ANY of them or i have trouble) same problems your wife has i wonder what is in the skin that causes it! kate -- Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. "Alan S" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:47:27 -0500, Sherry > > wrote: > > >Alan S > wrote in > : > > > ><snip> > >> > >> Can't argue with that - individual allergies are always a > >> problem for any food item. You've done it correctly, by > >> elimination with medical supervision. Similarly, my wife > >> cannot eat tomato skin, but that doesn't make it wrong or > >> dangerous for the great majority of those considering > >> whether tomatoes should be part of their diet. <snip> > >> Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. > > > >Tomato *skin*? Can she eat the rest of the tomato? > > > >I always wondered - the rest of the plant is poisonous (as is the > >potato plant, except for the tuber) - when they discovered that part of > >the plant was poisonous, who was dumb enough to keep trying the other > >parts until they found the part that wasn't??? > > > >Sherry > > She has a unique gastric system (I hope she never reads > this). Skinned tomatoes are OK, but if she eats them with > the skin on they just come back up in little bits for an > hour or two. No discomfort or medical difficulties, but > rather disconcerting. > > So, when making a salad we've developed techniques for > skinning, like putting the tomato in a mug of boiling water > for a few minutes, then dunking it in cold water before > peeling. It becomes just an accepted part of general food > preparation. Alternatively, I cut the skins off a cold > tomato for my salad and she has the rest. > > So, I understand why those who have a particular allergy may > tend to see that it applies to all; but that's no truer than > that carbs will spike everyone - she is non-diabetic and > loves her potatoes and pasta and never has BGs above > 5.5(100). And we have both been drinking copious quantities > of aspartame-sweetened soft drinks for over three years. > > > Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. > -- > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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Alan S > wrote in
: <snip> > She has a unique gastric system (I hope she never reads > this). Skinned tomatoes are OK, but if she eats them with > the skin on they just come back up in little bits for an > hour or two. No discomfort or medical difficulties, but > rather disconcerting. > <snip> > Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. Well, I guess I can understand that. When my son was really little, I can't remember what he had to eat for dinner, but the next morning, I found "urped" olives in his bed - that's all that came back up! Too weird! Sherry |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 20:16:02 -0600, "Tiger Lily"
> wrote: >oh good it's not just me > >and i have the same problem with all peppers >except orange peppers (and don'tcook ANY of them >or i have trouble) > >same problems your wife has > >i wonder what is in the skin that causes it! > >kate Hi Kate Now I'm trying to work out how to let her know she's not the only one, without letting her know I broadcast her situation to the world. She also has a problem with capsicum (bell peppers), but the symptoms are different. Similar to metformin I'm told. Hmmmm.. Anyway, I hope I helped in how to peel a tomato:-) Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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Alan S > said:
>She has a unique gastric system (I hope she never reads >this). Skinned tomatoes are OK, but if she eats them with >the skin on they just come back up in little bits for an >hour or two. No discomfort or medical difficulties, but >rather disconcerting. > >So, when making a salad we've developed techniques for >skinning, like putting the tomato in a mug of boiling water >for a few minutes, then dunking it in cold water before >peeling. It becomes just an accepted part of general food >preparation. Alternatively, I cut the skins off a cold >tomato for my salad and she has the rest. My sweetie has the exact same problem. Thanks for sharing your peeling technique! Carol |
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Alan S > wrote in
: <Snip> > > Hi Kate > > Now I'm trying to work out how to let her know she's not the > only one, without letting her know I broadcast her situation > to the world. She also has a problem with capsicum (bell > peppers), but the symptoms are different. Similar to > metformin I'm told. Capsaicin in bell peppers???? Hmm. That's the "hot" to chili peppers. "Bell peppers are not ‘hot’. They contain a recessive gene which eliminates capsaisin, the compound responsible for the ‘hotness’ found in other peppers." http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...dspice&dbid=50 Similar to metformin??? How's that? Sherry |
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you helped in the how to peel a tomatoe
now......... i can eat EVERY other kind of pepper except for bell peppers (unless they are FRESH ORANGE ONES) go figure (urp urp urp) kate -- Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. "Alan S" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 29 May 2005 20:16:02 -0600, "Tiger Lily" > > wrote: > > >oh good it's not just me > > > >and i have the same problem with all peppers > >except orange peppers (and don'tcook ANY of them > >or i have trouble) > > > >same problems your wife has > > > >i wonder what is in the skin that causes it! > > > >kate > > Hi Kate > > Now I'm trying to work out how to let her know she's not the > only one, without letting her know I broadcast her situation > to the world. She also has a problem with capsicum (bell > peppers), but the symptoms are different. Similar to > metformin I'm told. > > Hmmmm.. > > Anyway, I hope I helped in how to peel a tomato:-) > > > Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. > -- > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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It is nonsense
exhaustive double blind tests have failed to find ANYONE who has problems with Aspartame. Many people have problems with caffeine, others have psychosomatic reactions when they THINK they are getting Aspartame, but there are no confirmed reactions of any kind, and people have been trying for years. Gabe wrote: > "Alan S" > wrote in message > ... > >>Do what you like - but the nonsense written about aspartame >>is exactly that - nonsense. > > Alan, > If aspartame doesn't bother you then use it but it does affect some people > adversely. It is not nonsense. I agree saying that it will cause everyone > a problem is nonsense but to say it will not cause problems in some people > is wrong. Both my daughter and I cannot tolerate aspartame in any form. > We have done diet elimination and every time we add aspartame back to our > diet we have problem. For us we will avoid aspartame. She also cannot > tolerate Splenda so she is out of luck. Very chemically sensitive. > > -- "...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present" Glen Cook |
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"Sherry" > wrote in message
. 97.142... > > Capsaicin in bell peppers???? Hmm. That's the "hot" to chili peppers. Capsicum is the name for bell peppers in Australia |
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 12:53:48 -0500, Sherry
> wrote: >Alan S > wrote in : ><Snip> >> >> Hi Kate >> >> Now I'm trying to work out how to let her know she's not the >> only one, without letting her know I broadcast her situation >> to the world. She also has a problem with capsicum (bell >> peppers), but the symptoms are different. Similar to >> metformin I'm told. > > >Capsaicin in bell peppers???? Hmm. That's the "hot" to chili peppers. > >"Bell peppers are not ‘hot’. They contain a recessive gene which >eliminates capsaisin, the compound responsible for the ‘hotness’ found >in other peppers." >http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...dspice&dbid=50 > > >Similar to metformin??? How's that? > >Sherry Regional nomenclature. The vegetable you call "Bell Pepper" we call "Capsicum". They are part of the same family, but as you say, they are fleshy and sweet, not hot. And I was attempting to be discreet as to the "similar to metformin". Think about the early stage effects, but on the GI tract, not on BGs. Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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Alan S > wrote: > The vegetable you call "Bell Pepper" we call "Capsicum". > They are part of the same family, but as you say, they are > fleshy and sweet, not hot. > > And I was attempting to be discreet as to the "similar to > metformin". Think about the early stage effects, but on the > GI tract, not on BGs. Hmmm. Bell peppers and metformin both can affect me gaseously but in two different directions. Priscilla -- "Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong |
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Alan S > wrote in
: <snip> >>Capsaicin in bell peppers???? Hmm. That's the "hot" to chili >>peppers. >> <snip> >> >>Similar to metformin??? How's that? >> >>Sherry > > Regional nomenclature. > > The vegetable you call "Bell Pepper" we call "Capsicum". > They are part of the same family, but as you say, they are > fleshy and sweet, not hot. > > And I was attempting to be discreet as to the "similar to > metformin". Think about the early stage effects, but on the > GI tract, not on BGs. > > > Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. Ah, ok - I was thinking that you had just misspelled "capsaisin" and was saying that capsaisin was what affected your wife.... Thanks for the clarification. Never had any side effects to metformin so I wouldn't *even* begin to think of GI effects in relation to the drug! Sherry |
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