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In article . net>,
"rick etter" > wrote:

> When the actions you knowingly take result in those deaths, then yes, you
> are culpable. You can continue to try and pass the buck here, pansy-boy,
> but you have already lost, again.


Same difficulty. My actions are independent of the outcomes.

I could for example pay a hitman 10K. He might kill a person. He might
use the money for charity. He might take the money and run. He might do
any number of things. I am not responsible for his action and the
outcomes of his actions.

What are often described as logical consequences of actions are
indicative of flawed reasoning.
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"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article . net>,
> "rick etter" > wrote:
>
>> When the actions you knowingly take result in those deaths, then yes, you
>> are culpable. You can continue to try and pass the buck here,
>> pansy-boy,
>> but you have already lost, again.

>
> Same difficulty. My actions are independent of the outcomes.

======================
No, there are not. You have choices. You make the one that causes death.
Your choice led to it, you paid for it. You are culpable.


>
> I could for example pay a hitman 10K. He might kill a person. He might
> use the money for charity. He might take the money and run. He might do
> any number of things. I am not responsible for his action and the
> outcomes of his actions.

================
LOL Idiocy 101? Is that what passes as logic in your world?

>
> What are often described as logical consequences of actions are
> indicative of flawed reasoning.

=================
You should know all about flawed reasoning, fool. It's all you have
presented.


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In article et>,
"rick etter" > wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article . net>,
> > "rick etter" > wrote:
> >
> >> When the actions you knowingly take result in those deaths, then yes, you
> >> are culpable. You can continue to try and pass the buck here,
> >> pansy-boy,
> >> but you have already lost, again.

> >
> > Same difficulty. My actions are independent of the outcomes.

> ======================
> No, there are not. You have choices. You make the one that causes death.
> Your choice led to it, you paid for it. You are culpable.


You made me do it. I made you do it. What a world we live in.

Actually, someone paid me to go to the store and buy meat today, so they
are responsible. I have no accountability in the world, just like you.

> > I could for example pay a hitman 10K. He might kill a person. He might
> > use the money for charity. He might take the money and run. He might do
> > any number of things. I am not responsible for his action and the
> > outcomes of his actions.

> ================
> LOL Idiocy 101? Is that what passes as logic in your world?


"He made me do it, officer. I had no choice. I couldn't say no, or the
cheque would bounce."

"I'm weak your honour. I can't resist a couple of bucks. I have no will
or strength of character or ego."

Don't blame me, it's a.....dutch's fault. Ya that's it. It's Dutch's
fault. If he didn't do X then I wouldn't do Y.

> > What are often described as logical consequences of actions are
> > indicative of flawed reasoning.

> =================
> You should know all about flawed reasoning, fool. It's all you have
> presented.


Command me, oh, powerful one. I am not in control of my own actions.
Everything that I do is because you command it. If you didn't type, then
I wouldn't type. I must blame you for the fact that my fingers are on my
keyboard in my home. I must blame you for my musciles and tendons
driving my fingers over the keyboard. YOU caused this.
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In article et>,
"rick etter" > wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article . net>,
> > "rick etter" > wrote:
> >
> >> When the actions you knowingly take result in those deaths, then yes, you
> >> are culpable. You can continue to try and pass the buck here,
> >> pansy-boy,
> >> but you have already lost, again.

> >
> > Same difficulty. My actions are independent of the outcomes.

> ======================
> No, there are not. You have choices. You make the one that causes death.
> Your choice led to it, you paid for it. You are culpable.


You made me do it. I made you do it. What a world we live in.

Actually, someone paid me to go to the store and buy meat today, so they
are responsible. I have no accountability in the world, just like you.

> > I could for example pay a hitman 10K. He might kill a person. He might
> > use the money for charity. He might take the money and run. He might do
> > any number of things. I am not responsible for his action and the
> > outcomes of his actions.

> ================
> LOL Idiocy 101? Is that what passes as logic in your world?


"He made me do it, officer. I had no choice. I couldn't say no, or the
cheque would bounce."

"I'm weak your honour. I can't resist a couple of bucks. I have no will
or strength of character or ego."

Don't blame me, it's a.....dutch's fault. Ya that's it. It's Dutch's
fault. If he didn't do X then I wouldn't do Y.

> > What are often described as logical consequences of actions are
> > indicative of flawed reasoning.

> =================
> You should know all about flawed reasoning, fool. It's all you have
> presented.


Command me, oh, powerful one. I am not in control of my own actions.
Everything that I do is because you command it. If you didn't type, then
I wouldn't type. I must blame you for the fact that my fingers are on my
keyboard in my home. I must blame you for my musciles and tendons
driving my fingers over the keyboard. YOU caused this.
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"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article . net>,
> "rick etter" > wrote:
>
>> When the actions you knowingly take result in those deaths, then yes, you
>> are culpable. You can continue to try and pass the buck here,
>> pansy-boy,
>> but you have already lost, again.

>
> Same difficulty. My actions are independent of the outcomes.

======================
No, there are not. You have choices. You make the one that causes death.
Your choice led to it, you paid for it. You are culpable.


>
> I could for example pay a hitman 10K. He might kill a person. He might
> use the money for charity. He might take the money and run. He might do
> any number of things. I am not responsible for his action and the
> outcomes of his actions.

================
LOL Idiocy 101? Is that what passes as logic in your world?

>
> What are often described as logical consequences of actions are
> indicative of flawed reasoning.

=================
You should know all about flawed reasoning, fool. It's all you have
presented.




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