"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:18:29 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
>>And I think that *you* are misunderstanding also. Nowadays, you can
>>access both Email and newsgroups from sources other than your ISP.
>
> She gave a simple message. You're reading more into it than there is.

Or you missed some important points.



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Nancy Young wrote:

> Yet she is here.
>
> nancy

'We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
<snicker>
-L.

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Speaking of google, is it having trouble today, or is the problem on my
> side? I've gone to www.google.com a few times today and gotten nowhere
> with my searches. I just get the hourglass figure that it's thinking
> about it forever, no search results.
>
>
> --Lia

Might be your computer. I've had trouble, but then I'm on a MacOS9.2
with an ancient Netscape browser. Sometimes rebooting will solve the
problem.

This morning, I logged in before 8, and the latest posting on this
group was from ~3am! Sounds like growing pains to me.

maxine in ri

"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
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> On 27 Sep 2006 14:46:48 -0700, -SD- wrote:
>
>> I'd like to see the alternatives that you say exist.
>
> I just sent you an invitation to a free news server that works
> pretty well.
>


lol

Nancy Young wrote:
> "sf" > wrote
>
> > You're misunderstanding.... her ISP doesn't offer email or usenet. It
> > doesn't matter what software you have if your ISP doesn't offer the
> > service in the first place.
>
> Yet she is here.
>
> nancy

DUH...because I'm accessing though Google which is NOT maintained by my
ISP .

As sf said, it makes no difference which newsreader I have (and I have
several) if the ISP doesn't have a news server and provide USENET
access. If the ISP has no news server or mail server, it doesn't make a
damn bit of difference which mail and news reader software I have
because they are useless. We ALL use web-based email here - even school
and corporate accounts are web-based email. I use an alternative
method to access, which in this case is Google.

The whole point I was making is not all ISPs maintain news servers and
access to USENET. Those with ISPs like that must use alternative
methods to access USENET - one of which is Google.

-SD-

"-SD-" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote
>>
>> > You're misunderstanding.... her ISP doesn't offer email or usenet. It
>> > doesn't matter what software you have if your ISP doesn't offer the
>> > service in the first place.
>>
>> Yet she is here.

> DUH...because I'm accessing though Google which is NOT maintained by my
> ISP .
>

Duh nothing, that was my point.

nancy

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:54:01 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>
>"-SD-" > wrote
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> "sf" > wrote
>>>
>>> > You're misunderstanding.... her ISP doesn't offer email or usenet. It
>>> > doesn't matter what software you have if your ISP doesn't offer the
>>> > service in the first place.
>>>
>>> Yet she is here.
>
>> DUH...because I'm accessing though Google which is NOT maintained by my
>> ISP .
>>
>
>Duh nothing, that was my point.
>
>nancy
>
LOL.. SD's act is getting old.

cybercat wrote:
> "-SD-" > wrote
> >
> > I only read RFC and rec.travel.latin-america (occasionally). The
> > majority of my posting is to RFC with the occasional odd post to RTLA.
> > Even with the links cybercat posted for me, tt really isn't worth the
> > hassle to have a newsserver access for essentially one newsgroup.
> > Google works just fine for posting to only one newsgroup.
> >
>
> Google IS just fine. The whole reason this topic came up
> (and I should thank you, I now know a whole lot more about
> Honduras!) is because Steve Wertz jerkishly barged in and
> announced that he is killfiling all Google posts. He is an idiot.
> For my part, I just didn't want you to feel limited to one way
> of posting if you weren't happy with it. Peace!
>


Oh...I understand...no problem.

I find it amusing (and somewhat frustrating) that some folks still just
don't get it that not every ISP in the world provides all the bells and
whistles they are used to in the US and other developed countries. They
just assume that all ISPs operate the way US ISPs operate with all the
services that US ISPs provide.

They just don't get it that the technology game is all quite new in
underdeveloped countries. Heck....not that I'm a big McIntaosh fan
....but you couldn't even buy a Mac here until this year...and there are
still no places for repair of Macs - they need to be sent out of
country for repair. One of the teachers has a Mac and it crapped out.
he had to wait until he went back to the US to have it repaired. My
Toshiba laptop needed repair..and I had to send it with a friend who
lives in Tegucigalpa two weeks ago...there are no computer places in
town to repair ANY computers. I should get it back this weekend. I
cannot buy software in-country. I have to wait for trips back to the US
or have a family buy it for me and send it to me. i'm probably going
back to the US again in march for a teachers workshop..so that will be
another software buying expedition. I did that in June when I went to a
workshop in Alabama - brought back more software and other supplies. I
buoght a new prionter here because I cannot get the ink for the printer
I own in country. By the time I have freinds send it, the cost is
double the original purchase price!

-SD-

On 28 Sep 2006 15:56:51 -0700, "-SD-" > wrote:

>
>cybercat wrote:
>> "-SD-" > wrote
>> >
>> > I only read RFC and rec.travel.latin-america (occasionally). The
>> > majority of my posting is to RFC with the occasional odd post to RTLA.
>> > Even with the links cybercat posted for me, tt really isn't worth the
>> > hassle to have a newsserver access for essentially one newsgroup.
>> > Google works just fine for posting to only one newsgroup.
>> >
>>
>> Google IS just fine. The whole reason this topic came up
>> (and I should thank you, I now know a whole lot more about
>> Honduras!) is because Steve Wertz jerkishly barged in and
>> announced that he is killfiling all Google posts. He is an idiot.
>> For my part, I just didn't want you to feel limited to one way
>> of posting if you weren't happy with it. Peace!
>>
>
>
>Oh...I understand...no problem.
>
>I find it amusing (and somewhat frustrating) that some folks still just
>don't get it that not every ISP in the world provides all the bells and
>whistles they are used to in the US and other developed countries. They
>just assume that all ISPs operate the way US ISPs operate with all the
>services that US ISPs provide.

You've been given several work-arounds but you still keep yappin. Why
don't you just shut up and keep using google. Wertz is the only one
who really gives a damn. If your happy with google then just shut up
and stop trying to educate people with knowledge you don't have.

We have a dsl connection with nothing!!!!! No mail, no usenet. Yet I
still use a real server and a real reader. My server could care less
if I'm next door or in Honduras. All I need to do is connect.

Better to remain silent and have people think you're stupid than to
open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote

> You've been given several work-arounds

Exactly what I was trying to get across ... if you're posting to
newsgroups, obviously there is a way around your ISP not supporting
them. I couldn't care less what people use, myself. But the ISP
thing, it's neither here nor there, I don't know why that keeps being
raised. That was my point.

nancy

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:30:32 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote
>
>> You've been given several work-arounds
>
>Exactly what I was trying to get across ... if you're posting to
>newsgroups, obviously there is a way around your ISP not supporting
>them. I couldn't care less what people use, myself. But the ISP
>thing, it's neither here nor there, I don't know why that keeps being
>raised. That was my point.
>
>nancy

I understood your point. And from what I've read of this thread so
did others. Some don't understand but that's ok too. I don't care
how people post as long as there's fun, food, cooking, and new things
for me to learn. I'm not sure if I've posted to these google threads,
but I think not. The only reason I posted was because he/she? talked
down to you and it ****ed me off cuz he/she is wrong and bullheaded.

Lou

Steve Wertz wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2006 14:46:48 -0700, -SD- wrote:
>
> > I'd like to see the alternatives that you say exist.
>
> I just sent you an invitation to a free news server that works
> pretty well.
>


What? Where? How?

Steve Wertz wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2006 20:53:26 -0700, khucai wrote:

> Rainy days and Sundays always get me down.
>
> -sw

__________________________

and work /productivity !!

Steve Wertz wrote:
> While I can't say it's the majority of users, many people have
> Google kill-filed in the more technical groups. Because we can.
> Most people don't have the knowledge or tools to be able to figure
> out how to do it.

Why would they kill fire google?

"Because we can" just doesn't make sense.

I only use google and don't have access to newsgroups via email so does
that mean my posts don't get seen by some?

T

> I saw one link and I thought it was very nice of you to find it for
> her. The down side of free servers is they don't stay free for very
> long if they are any good and they don't stay around if they aren't
> any good.

They dont stay around if they are good , taxed out of busines
and forced to buy out from Bill Gates et al ..

Welcome to the USA ! If there is any profit in anything , the
govt or its cronies are first allowed to "offer" you a sell out .
Next its law suits , like the ones Bill does on copyright ,if
that dont work , expect plain clothes G man at your door
with a big gun and no I.D.

All business in the USA is stolllen by corps , limited liabilty
cronies .

QWEST ...... ISP's....... these are impossible in a
competive market .
No one would need anything QWEST sells if we had free market
(Same for the postal service ) .
There'd be no dial up ISP's
The Cable companies were outlawed
in providing WWW and phones service for a long time , to
protect Baby bells .

Protecting baby bells is destroying America,
forcing us to use antiquated communication methods , uncompetitive
with other countries , increasing our overhead of doin business , so
we lose business to other countries ....
Govt subsidizes baby bells , they DONT make a profit ...

In article .com>,
"Temily" > wrote:

> Steve Wertz wrote:
> > While I can't say it's the majority of users, many people have
> > Google kill-filed in the more technical groups. Because we can.
> > Most people don't have the knowledge or tools to be able to figure
> > out how to do it.
>
> Why would they kill fire google?
>
> "Because we can" just doesn't make sense.
>
> I only use google and don't have access to newsgroups via email so does
> that mean my posts don't get seen by some?


As far as I know only one person has said this, and it's just an idle
threat so far. I wouldn't worry about it. It has been estimated that
50,000 people read this group, so one threatened non-reader isn't
exactly an issue.

--
Dan Abel

Petaluma, California, USA

Temily wrote:
> Why would they kill fire google?

Killfile.

>
> "Because we can" just doesn't make sense.

LOL...of course it doesn't.

>
> I only use google and don't have access to newsgroups via email so does
> that mean my posts don't get seen by some?

Yeah, but no big deal. If they are too uptight to just click past the
spam, screw 'em.

-L.

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article .com>,
> "Temily" > wrote:
>
>> Steve Wertz wrote:
>> > While I can't say it's the majority of users, many people have
>> > Google kill-filed in the more technical groups. Because we can.
>> > Most people don't have the knowledge or tools to be able to figure
>> > out how to do it.
>>
>> Why would they kill fire google?
>>
>> "Because we can" just doesn't make sense.
>>
>> I only use google and don't have access to newsgroups via email so does
>> that mean my posts don't get seen by some?
>
>
> As far as I know only one person has said this, and it's just an idle
> threat so far. I wouldn't worry about it. It has been estimated that
> 50,000 people read this group, so one threatened non-reader isn't
> exactly an issue.
>

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S STEVE WERTZ. Oh, I'm sorry, was I yelling?



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"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:08:27 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> Wertz is the only one
>> who really gives a damn. If your happy with google then just shut up
>> and stop trying to educate people with knowledge you don't have.
>
> While I can't say it's the majority of users, many people have
> Google kill-filed in the more technical groups.

**** off, Steven.



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On 29 Sep 2006 13:44:37 -0700, "-L." > wrote:

>
>Temily wrote:
>> Why would they kill fire google?
>
>Killfile.
>
>>
>> "Because we can" just doesn't make sense.
>
>LOL...of course it doesn't.
>
>>
>> I only use google and don't have access to newsgroups via email so does
>> that mean my posts don't get seen by some?
>
>Yeah, but no big deal. If they are too uptight to just click past the
>spam, screw 'em.
>
Kill the poster, kill the thread.... but killing a domain, unless it's
a particularly egregious domain (like Hotmail used to be), doesn't
make any sense.

> wrote in message
...
> On 29 Sep 2006 13:44:37 -0700, "-L." > wrote:
>
>>
>>Temily wrote:
>>> Why would they kill fire google?
>>
>>Killfile.
>>
>>>
>>> "Because we can" just doesn't make sense.
>>
>>LOL...of course it doesn't.
>>
>>>
>>> I only use google and don't have access to newsgroups via email so does
>>> that mean my posts don't get seen by some?
>>
>>Yeah, but no big deal. If they are too uptight to just click past the
>>spam, screw 'em.
>>
> Kill the poster, kill the thread.... but killing a domain, unless it's
> a particularly egregious domain (like Hotmail used to be), doesn't
> make any sense.
>

But it sure got Steve Wertz a whole bunch of attention. So it made sense to
him.

cybercat wrote:


> But it sure got Steve Wertz a whole bunch of attention. So it made
> sense to him.

Much of it from you, of course.




Brian

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If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> cybercat wrote:
>
>
>> But it sure got Steve Wertz a whole bunch of attention. So it made
>> sense to him.
>
> Much of it from you, of course.
>
>
>
>

Good point.


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