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I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it
in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone else. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook it at all. Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? |
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"salgud" > wrote in message
oups.com... >I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > else. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > it at all. > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with > this kind of thing? > This will require dissection! Cost of fresh corn? When it's in season from local farms around here, it sells at 4 ears for a dollar. I haven't analyzed this with measuring cups, but I think that beats even premium canned or frozen corn. Enormous amount of time to cut it off the cobs??? Are you using tweezers? Using a sharp paring knife, I can strip an ear in 30 seconds. You can, too. Premium brands: Vegetables are variable based on the specific variety, weather, etc. Premium brands might be better than store brands, but the only way to know is by experiment. And, nobody's past experience (including yours) is a guarantee of future results. |
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salgud wrote:
> I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > else. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would > be very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if > off the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't > cook it at all. > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience > with this kind of thing? I like identifiable pieces of corn in my corn soup, but I'm not familiar with the kind of soup you are making (I usually make corn chowder). Nevertheless, if using frozen corn, I would recommend gold and white sweet corn from either Green Giant or Birdseye, or shoepeg white corn from GG. I've often bought store-brand yellow corn to save money, and it really is much tougher and less sweet and just generally not as good. GG or Birdseye yellow is usually better, but nowhere near as good as shoepeg white or gold&white. |
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salgud wrote:
> I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > else. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > it at all. > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with > this kind of thing? > Since you thought the flavor was good, I'd try it again with frozen corn and run it through a sieve or other strainer before serving to get the remaining chunks out. gloria p |
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![]() > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with > this kind of thing? TJ's has a frozen sweet corn that is pretty good. If there is a store near you, give it a try. Harriet & critters |
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![]() salgud wrote: > I made Mexican Corn Soup [snip] > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? [snip] > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with > this kind of thing? If it were me, I'd try out some canned corn. Trader Joe's brand is quite good, every bit as tasty as frozen, imho. Green Giant niblets used to be quite good, too, though I haven't had it since discovering TJ's. I would guess that canned is cheaper than frozen, though I don't actually know. Then again, if it were me trying out a soup I might throw in a can of creamed corn as well. -aem |
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aem wrote:
> salgud wrote: >> I made Mexican Corn Soup [snip] > >> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? >> [snip] >> >> Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would >> chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience >> with this kind of thing? > > If it were me, I'd try out some canned corn. Trader Joe's brand is > quite good, every bit as tasty as frozen, imho. Green Giant niblets > used to be quite good, too, though I haven't had it since discovering > TJ's. I would guess that canned is cheaper than frozen, though I > don't actually know. > > Then again, if it were me trying out a soup I might throw in a can of > creamed corn as well. -aem I always use canned corn kernels in my corn chowder. For some reason it seems to have more "bite" than frozen or even fresh corn. But salgud seems to want to be able to drink it through a straw so I'd say, whatever corn he/she uses, puree the hell out of it. Jill |
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![]() salgud wrote: > I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > else. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > it at all. > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > chop up fine enough in my blender? You answered your own question... you obviously used some really cheapo frozen corn... probably generic, old tough corn with bits of cob. I hate to bust your bubble but unless so-called fresh corn was picked two hours ago it can't possibly be as good as any of the premium brands of frozen corn. Sheldon Birdseye |
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![]() JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "salgud" > wrote in message > oups.com... > >I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > > else. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > > it at all. > > > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with > > this kind of thing? > > > > This will require dissection! > > Cost of fresh corn? When it's in season from local farms around here, it > sells at 4 ears for a dollar. I haven't analyzed this with measuring cups, > but I think that beats even premium canned or frozen corn. I doubt that if you measure it, you'll stand by your statement. > > Enormous amount of time to cut it off the cobs??? Are you using tweezers? > Using a sharp paring knife, I can strip an ear in 30 seconds. You can, too. That's about right. 20 ears, which would not be enough to do a large pot of chowder/soup, would cost $5 (at the lowest price I saw all summer, more most of the time) and take 10 min. to cut off the cob, not including the time to shuck the corn beforehand. And during the winter, all this is moot anyway. > > Premium brands: Vegetables are variable based on the specific variety, > weather, etc. Premium brands might be better than store brands, but the only > way to know is by experiment. And, nobody's past experience (including > yours) is a guarantee of future results. Gee, I better give up and go back to bed! Thanks for all your help! |
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![]() Janet Puistonen wrote: > salgud wrote: > > I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > > else. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would > > be very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if > > off the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't > > cook it at all. > > > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience > > with this kind of thing? > > I like identifiable pieces of corn in my corn soup, but I'm not familiar > with the kind of soup you are making (I usually make corn chowder). > > Nevertheless, if using frozen corn, I would recommend gold and white sweet > corn from either Green Giant or Birdseye, or shoepeg white corn from GG. > I've often bought store-brand yellow corn to save money, and it really is > much tougher and less sweet and just generally not as good. GG or Birdseye > yellow is usually better, but nowhere near as good as shoepeg white or > gold&white. Thanks for the help. Will try again with one of the premium brands, but this time, I'll try it first with a small bag of corn so I don't make a huge pot of mealy chowder! Never heard of the Shoepeg, but we certainly have the GG and Birdseye here. |
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"salgud" > wrote in message
ups.com... > > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "salgud" > wrote in message >> oups.com... >> >I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it >> > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I >> > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't >> > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little >> > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I >> > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone >> > else. >> > >> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The >> > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be >> > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off >> > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook >> > it at all. >> > >> > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would >> > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with >> > this kind of thing? >> > >> >> This will require dissection! >> >> Cost of fresh corn? When it's in season from local farms around here, it >> sells at 4 ears for a dollar. I haven't analyzed this with measuring >> cups, >> but I think that beats even premium canned or frozen corn. > > I doubt that if you measure it, you'll stand by your statement. 14-15" long ears of corn - I think I'm pretty close. That's what we've been getting around here lately. See below where I said that vegetables are not consistent for lots of reasons. This isn't the starship Enterprise, where food comes out of a computer. :-) >> Enormous amount of time to cut it off the cobs??? Are you using >> tweezers? >> Using a sharp paring knife, I can strip an ear in 30 seconds. You can, >> too. > > That's about right. 20 ears, which would not be enough to do a large > pot of chowder/soup, would cost $5 (at the lowest price I saw all > summer, more most of the time) and take 10 min. to cut off the cob, not > including the time to shuck the corn beforehand. And during the winter, > all this is moot anyway. You can't spare 10 minutes for a better quality dinner? >> Premium brands: Vegetables are variable based on the specific variety, >> weather, etc. Premium brands might be better than store brands, but the >> only >> way to know is by experiment. And, nobody's past experience (including >> yours) is a guarantee of future results. > > Gee, I better give up and go back to bed! Thanks for all your help! Whattya want??? You're obviously not a gardener or a farmer, or you'd know that, like mutual funds, past vegetable performance is go guarantee of future results. |
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![]() Puester wrote: > salgud wrote: > > I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > > else. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > > it at all. > > > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > > chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience with > > this kind of thing? > > > > > Since you thought the flavor was good, I'd try it again with frozen corn > and run it through a sieve or other strainer before serving to get the > remaining chunks out. > > gloria p That's a great idea, I could do that if the premium corn still has the little pieces in it! Thanks. |
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> Janet Puistonen wrote: >> salgud wrote: >>> I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed >>> it in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was >>> delicious! I tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the >>> frozen corn didn't blend as well and while the taste was still >>> good, there were little pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat >>> the soup, not very good. I ate some of it, but threw half of it >>> out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone else. >>> >>> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The >>> cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would >>> be very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if >>> off the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't >>> cook it at all. >>> >>> Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would >>> chop up fine enough in my blender? Does anyone have any experience >>> with this kind of thing? >> >> I like identifiable pieces of corn in my corn soup, but I'm not >> familiar with the kind of soup you are making (I usually make corn >> chowder). >> >> Nevertheless, if using frozen corn, I would recommend gold and white >> sweet corn from either Green Giant or Birdseye, or shoepeg white >> corn from GG. I've often bought store-brand yellow corn to save >> money, and it really is much tougher and less sweet and just >> generally not as good. GG or Birdseye yellow is usually better, but >> nowhere near as good as shoepeg white or gold&white. > > Thanks for the help. Will try again with one of the premium brands, > but this time, I'll try it first with a small bag of corn so I don't > make a huge pot of mealy chowder! Never heard of the Shoepeg, but we > certainly have the GG and Birdseye here. Shoepeg isn't a brand, it's a variety of corn. Jill |
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![]() Sheldon wrote: > salgud wrote: > > I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > > else. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > > it at all. > > > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > > chop up fine enough in my blender? > > You answered your own question... you obviously used some really cheapo > frozen corn... probably generic, old tough corn with bits of cob. I > hate to bust your bubble but unless so-called fresh corn was picked two > hours ago it can't possibly be as good as any of the premium brands of > frozen corn. > > Sheldon Birdseye I did use the supermarket brand. Didn't know if there is any difference in expensive corn and low-priced corn. Will try the premium stuff next time and see how it turns out. As far as corn on the cob being fresher than corn in a bag, I always assumed it was. It still seems unlikely to me that GG can harvest it, shuck it, strip it from the cob, freeze it and package it faster than a local farmer can throw it on a truck and ship it to King Soopers, but I guess it's possible. I've never had a need to know before now. No bubbles burst here, but possibley and old assumption proved untrue. I'm used to that by now. |
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![]() Sheldon wrote: > salgud wrote: > > I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > > else. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > > it at all. > > > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > > chop up fine enough in my blender? > > You answered your own question... you obviously used some really cheapo > frozen corn... probably generic, old tough corn with bits of cob. I > hate to bust your bubble but unless so-called fresh corn was picked two > hours ago it can't possibly be as good as any of the premium brands of > frozen corn. > > Sheldon Birdseye I did use the supermarket brand. Didn't know if there is any difference in expensive corn and low-priced corn. Will try the premium stuff next time and see how it turns out. As far as corn on the cob being fresher than corn in a bag, I always assumed it was. It still seems unlikely to me that GG can harvest it, shuck it, strip it from the cob, freeze it and package it faster than a local farmer can throw it on a truck and ship it to King Soopers, but I guess it's possible. I've never had a need to know before now. No bubbles burst here, but possibley and old assumption proved untrue. I'm used to that by now. |
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"salgud" > wrote: > I did use the supermarket brand. Didn't know if there is any difference > in expensive corn and low-priced corn. Will try the premium stuff next > time and see how it turns out. As far as corn on the cob being fresher > than corn in a bag, I always assumed it was. It still seems unlikely to > me that GG can harvest it, shuck it, strip it from the cob, freeze it > and package it faster than a local farmer can throw it on a truck and > ship it to King Soopers, but I guess it's possible. I've never had a > need to know before now. No bubbles burst here, but possibley and old > assumption proved untrue. I'm used to that by now. Try some "no salt added" canned corn... It's good! Since it's low sodium canned, it's not all salty and mushy like regular canned corn is. IMHO it's as good as the best fresh frozen corn or better... Green Giant and many store brands now make a "no salt added" canned corn. Same for green beans, spinach and peas. They are remarkably good. -- Peace, Om Remove extra . to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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"salgud" > wrote in message
ups.com... > > Sheldon wrote: >> salgud wrote: >> > I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it >> > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I >> > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't >> > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little >> > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I >> > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone >> > else. >> > >> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The >> > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be >> > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off >> > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook >> > it at all. >> > >> > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would >> > chop up fine enough in my blender? >> >> You answered your own question... you obviously used some really cheapo >> frozen corn... probably generic, old tough corn with bits of cob. I >> hate to bust your bubble but unless so-called fresh corn was picked two >> hours ago it can't possibly be as good as any of the premium brands of >> frozen corn. >> >> Sheldon Birdseye > > I did use the supermarket brand. Didn't know if there is any difference > in expensive corn and low-priced corn. Will try the premium stuff next > time and see how it turns out. As far as corn on the cob being fresher > than corn in a bag, I always assumed it was. It still seems unlikely to > me that GG can harvest it, shuck it, strip it from the cob, freeze it > and package it faster than a local farmer can throw it on a truck and > ship it to King Soopers, but I guess it's possible. I've never had a > need to know before now. No bubbles burst here, but possibley and old > assumption proved untrue. I'm used to that by now. > Green Giant and other national brands also make the private label stuff for SOME stores. It's worth trying whatever's available. And remember that the national brands have no monopoly on quality crops, or the technology involved in processing them optimally. |
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![]() salgud wrote: > Sheldon wrote: > > salgud wrote: > > > I made Mexican Corn Soup the first time a few weeks ago. Discussed it > > > in a thread here. I used fresh corn-on-the-cob and it was delicious! I > > > tried to re-create it using frozen corn, but the frozen corn didn't > > > blend as well and while the taste was still good, there were little > > > pieces of corn that you had to chew to eat the soup, not very good. I > > > ate some of it, but threw half of it out. Wouldn't serve it to anyone > > > else. > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use for the corn? The > > > cost of using fresh corn these days, even when it's in season, would be > > > very high. And it would take an enormous amount of time to cut if off > > > the cobs. And most of the year it's out of season and I couldn't cook > > > it at all. > > > > > > Does anyone know if some of the premium brands of frozen corn would > > > chop up fine enough in my blender? > > > > You answered your own question... you obviously used some really cheapo > > frozen corn... probably generic, old tough corn with bits of cob. I > > hate to bust your bubble but unless so-called fresh corn was picked two > > hours ago it can't possibly be as good as any of the premium brands of > > frozen corn. > > > > Sheldon Birdseye > > I did use the supermarket brand. Didn't know if there is any difference > in expensive corn and low-priced corn. There's a big difference in quality between the big national name brand frozen vegetables and the supermarket/generic products (especially with corn)... were they the same the consumer would not be willing to pay the greater price. >As far as corn on the cob being fresher > than corn in a bag, I always assumed it was. It still seems unlikely to > me that GG can harvest it, shuck it, strip it from the cob, freeze it > and package it faster than a local farmer can throw it on a truck and > ship it to King Soopers, but I guess it's possible. Not only possible that's exactly the case. Frozen corn from the big name packers is harvested, shucked, stripped, and processed entirely mechanically, all in the field, less than one hour from harvest to flash frozen.... plus they constantly test their corn electronically so it's harvested at the peak of readiness. They also spend a LOT of dollars researching the best type of corn and growing methods, and processing methods. No-name corn is hit and miss, bought from various small local growers, all mixed together and processed the old fashioned way at small processing plants... by the time it's shipped and processed it's no longer fresh, nor are very scientific methods relied upon for growing, harvesting, and processing... there's little to no consistancy, it's all hit and miss. Supermarket corn on the cob is at least a week old, probably more... even local farm stand corn is many hours old at it's best but typically 1-2 days since picked... and then who knows how many days the consumer has it hanging around until they get-to-it. I'll agree that if you can get locally grown corn on the cob that's reassonably freshly harvested then that is best for eating off the cob but then it's specifically of a type grown to be eaten off the cob, not well suited to be used stripped from the cob. If you want corn niblets to use in a recipe no corn is consistantly better than the big name brand frozen niblets. Most years I grow some corn myself... it tastes wonderful easten off the cob because I grew it myself and I was all ready to cook it and eat it before I picked it... but for recipes needing niblets stripped from the cob it's not nearly as good as Birdseye. Sheldon |
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