I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
vegetables. Maybe one of those convection countertop ovens that
supposedly do a better job than a standard toaster oven? I don't know,
I'm open to suggestions I just need it to be large enough to cook a
meal for 2 inside. Does anyone have any recommendations on what brands
work well and what ones I should stay away from?

Dwayne Hoover wrote:
> I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
> used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
> vegetables. Maybe one of those convection countertop ovens that
> supposedly do a better job than a standard toaster oven? I don't know,
> I'm open to suggestions I just need it to be large enough to cook a
> meal for 2 inside. Does anyone have any recommendations on what brands
> work well and what ones I should stay away from?

If you are able to, can you contact the manufacturer of the electric
oven? You might be doing something that is not optimal for this
particular oven or the oven might have some defect or repair needed.

Consumer Reports, consumersearch.com ?, et al., have lots on ovens.
Some of the convection ovens were so-so. I don't see much difference
between your oven and the others. So again, you might want to analyze
this problem before just buying another oven.

I would not be surprised if the maker of your oven has some good
suggestions and clue. Perhaps a veggie roaster, a clay thing or a
special roasting pot or something, you can use which will bring you the
results that you roast after.

"Dwayne Hoover" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
> used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
> vegetables. Maybe one of those convection countertop ovens that
> supposedly do a better job than a standard toaster oven? I don't know,
> I'm open to suggestions I just need it to be large enough to cook a
> meal for 2 inside. Does anyone have any recommendations on what brands
> work well and what ones I should stay away from?
>

What's the max temp for your electric oven?

Dwayne Hoover wrote:
> I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
> used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
> vegetables. Maybe one of those convection countertop ovens that
> supposedly do a better job than a standard toaster oven? I don't know,
> I'm open to suggestions I just need it to be large enough to cook a
> meal for 2 inside. Does anyone have any recommendations on what brands
> work well and what ones I should stay away from?

What do you mean when you say "it doesn't do that great of a job"?
Does it not get hot enough? Does the temp fluctuate too much rather
than holding fairly steady? If it's working properly there is no
functional difference between an electric and a gas oven. It seems
strange to think about buying some countertop appliance rather than
getting your oven to work right. -aem

On 30 Sep 2006 18:39:23 -0700, "Dwayne Hoover" >
wrote:

>I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
>used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
>vegetables. Maybe one of those convection countertop ovens that
>supposedly do a better job than a standard toaster oven? I don't know,
>I'm open to suggestions I just need it to be large enough to cook a
>meal for 2 inside. Does anyone have any recommendations on what brands
>work well and what ones I should stay away from?

You aren't making any sense. It's pretty hard to mess up roasted
vegetables. You say you don't like your electric oven, yet you're
asking us about other electric appliances. If you were switching from
a gas to electric cooktop, ok I might sympathize - but you don't seem
to have a problem with that. Crawl back under your bridge.

sf wrote:
> You aren't making any sense. It's pretty hard to mess up roasted
> vegetables. You say you don't like your electric oven, yet you're
> asking us about other electric appliances. If you were switching from
> a gas to electric cooktop, ok I might sympathize - but you don't seem
> to have a problem with that. Crawl back under your bridge.

Listen ****head. I don't need any shit from you. If you don't have
anything useful to contribute then move on! I used to have a gas oven,
it roasted my vegetables to crispy carmelized perfection. Now I have
electric, they come out all mushy. There is no access to gas on my
street so my options are - deal with mushy vegetables or come to a
newsgroup of cooking afficionados and ask if there are any other
electric options available. I see now that it was a mistake.

Dwayne Hoover wrote:
> I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
> used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
> vegetables.

Use its broiler... it'll do a better job than any toaster oven. It'll
roast veggies by exactly the same principle as any toaster oven but
it's more powerful than any toaster oven.

Sheldon

Dwayne Hoover wrote:

> Listen ****head. I don't need any shit from you. If you don't have
> anything useful to contribute then move on! I used to have a gas oven,
> it roasted my vegetables to crispy carmelized perfection. Now I have
> electric, they come out all mushy. There is no access to gas on my
> street so my options are - deal with mushy vegetables or come to a
> newsgroup of cooking afficionados and ask if there are any other
> electric options available. I see now that it was a mistake.

It's a mistake if you don't listen to the answers. Electric versus gas
has nothing whatsoever to do with your roasting problem. BTUs are
BTUs. Get an oven thermometer, use it to see when the oven has reached
the desired temperature. Shopping for a different appliance is stupid
until you have determined whether the existing oven is working
properly. Is that plain enough for you? -aem

"Dwayne Hoover" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> sf wrote:
>> You aren't making any sense. It's pretty hard to mess up roasted
>> vegetables. You say you don't like your electric oven, yet you're
>> asking us about other electric appliances. If you were switching from
>> a gas to electric cooktop, ok I might sympathize - but you don't seem
>> to have a problem with that. Crawl back under your bridge.
>
> Listen ****head. I don't need any shit from you. If you don't have
> anything useful to contribute then move on! I used to have a gas oven,
> it roasted my vegetables to crispy carmelized perfection. Now I have
> electric, they come out all mushy. There is no access to gas on my
> street so my options are - deal with mushy vegetables or come to a
> newsgroup of cooking afficionados and ask if there are any other
> electric options available. I see now that it was a mistake.
>

There may be slight differences between a gas and an electric oven, but
nothing that produces complete failure of a recipe. Check the oven with a
thermometer in three or four different locations. If it's all out of whack,
it needs repair.

On 1 Oct 2006 10:14:22 -0700, "Dwayne Hoover" >
wrote:

>
>sf wrote:
>> You aren't making any sense. It's pretty hard to mess up roasted
>> vegetables. You say you don't like your electric oven, yet you're
>> asking us about other electric appliances. If you were switching from
>> a gas to electric cooktop, ok I might sympathize - but you don't seem
>> to have a problem with that. Crawl back under your bridge.
>
>Listen ****head. I don't need any shit from you. If you don't have
>anything useful to contribute then move on! I used to have a gas oven,
>it roasted my vegetables to crispy carmelized perfection. Now I have
>electric, they come out all mushy.

Learn how to cook and stop blaming appliances for your own short
comings.

> There is no access to gas on my
>street so my options are - deal with mushy vegetables or come to a
>newsgroup of cooking afficionados and ask if there are any other
>electric options available. I see now that it was a mistake.

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, DUHwayne.

sf wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 10:14:22 -0700, "Dwayne Hoover" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >sf wrote:
> >> You aren't making any sense. It's pretty hard to mess up roasted
> >> vegetables. You say you don't like your electric oven, yet you're
> >> asking us about other electric appliances. If you were switching from
> >> a gas to electric cooktop, ok I might sympathize - but you don't seem
> >> to have a problem with that. Crawl back under your bridge.
> >
> >Listen ****head. I don't need any shit from you. If you don't have
> >anything useful to contribute then move on! I used to have a gas oven,
> >it roasted my vegetables to crispy carmelized perfection. Now I have
> >electric, they come out all mushy.
>
> Learn how to cook and stop blaming appliances for your own short
> comings.
>
> > There is no access to gas on my
> >street so my options are - deal with mushy vegetables or come to a
> >newsgroup of cooking afficionados and ask if there are any other
> >electric options available. I see now that it was a mistake.
>
> Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, DUHwayne.

What a loser. Well I guess everyone has their place in life, some
people spend their lives trying to cure diseases, do charity work for
the under-priveleged, yet others hang around a cooking newsgroup trying
to annoy people. Congratulations sf for fulfilling your life's
potential.

Dwayne Hoover wrote:

> Listen ****head.

Tsk...tsk

In my experience, the best toaster oven out there is the Panasonic NB-G100P.
I have used it for about two years now, and I would purchase it again in a
flash. Here's a link to NB-G100P on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-NB-G100P/dp/B000063UZV
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Dwayne Hoover wrote:

> What a loser. Well I guess everyone has their place in life, some
> people spend their lives trying to cure diseases, do charity work for
> the under-priveleged, yet others hang around a cooking newsgroup trying
> to annoy people. Congratulations sf for fulfilling your life's
> potential.
>
Hey, I already do ALL of those things...so where do *I* fit in here to
your scheme of things?

"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
...

> In my experience, the best toaster oven out there is the Panasonic
> NB-G100P.

Hey, that looks nice! I need a new toaster oven, mine does not even toast
evenly any more in addition to being ugly as sin.

cybercat wrote:

> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> In my experience, the best toaster oven out there is the Panasonic
>> NB-G100P.
>
> Hey, that looks nice! I need a new toaster oven, mine does not even
> toast evenly any more in addition to being ugly as sin.

It is more expensive, but you get what you pay for. And when I'm doing a
portion size which doesn't require heating up the larger oven at home, it
does the trick. And for toast and bagels, it is wonderful.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote
>
> There may be slight differences between a gas and an electric oven, but
> nothing that produces complete failure of a recipe. Check the oven with a
> thermometer in three or four different locations. If it's all out of
> whack, it needs repair.
>

Hell, every time I have moved I have had to adjust to the new oven,
regardless of whether there was a change in heat source. Some ovens
are just hotter than others. The old 1960s wall oven I use now is
practically nuclear, cooking things in half to 3/4s of the time. AND
if I want to bake something on 375 I have to set it on 325. It appears
to actually get 50 degrees hotter than you set it. (Judging by the temps
at which things have BURNED UP. lol I want a new one, but I want
it to be another wall oven. I don't think I can ever get used to bending
over to bake again.

Its not the cook , its the worthless toaster oven .

There all do it wrong , after all we do live in America !
Im an engineer and your stupid govt is killing all our businesses
/ inventions and giving the profits to Bill Gates types ...

To cook you must cook evenly , even heat . You need to
control heat so it dont escape .
Toaster oven leak more heat than all others ! There is not
even 3 layers of thin metal ! And the heat rods are insulated
to prevent heat from escaping .
Heat elements need to be like a normal toaster ,
thin ni-crome wire , so you can control it better .
Notice how you must look to make sure
heat element is red ?!! Notice how fast your toaster turns red !

I did 5 years in Asia ,and they wouldnt listen to me there .
I told them we had current sensing controls on our Ovens/range.
They are poor , cant change !
They use slow acting controls where the
current/heat sense takes 2 minutes !
By then the food is burned .
Ours ( took us 25 years to invent ,cause the engineers were
ignored at G.E. ) . No worse quality than G.E.
Ours do on/off in seconds for the thermal mass of the "flip"
switch ! and its low cost !!
Every electric range today uses these fast on/off thermal switches.
Notice they dont need the dual element anymore .

The new IR and glass top range are good . You can boil water
in a non-pyrex glass jar IF YOU ARE PATIENT .
But it is tricky , so dont try it unless you put burner on low
and boil the water in more than 20 minutes . Too fast and
it will gently crack the glass and dump water ...
Put a cover over it and success is more likely . And covers
can actually bake food ! On the range top !

You can bake perfect bread using a good cover !
Its for the heat control is far better using IR .
If ya had a computer control , the computer would sense
too cold ( below set point) and the element could respond
so fast , you'd not go below set point ,
but with the old heaters , you'd drop below by 80 F ...
Its the insulation over the elements . The new range has
heaters without insulation . Notice how fast they heat .





wrote:
> Dwayne Hoover wrote:
> > I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
> > used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
> > vegetables. Maybe one of those convection countertop ovens that
> > supposedly do a better job than a standard toaster oven? I don't know,
> > I'm open to suggestions I just need it to be large enough to cook a
> > meal for 2 inside. Does anyone have any recommendations on what brands
> > work well and what ones I should stay away from?
>
> If you are able to, can you contact the manufacturer of the electric
> oven? You might be doing something that is not optimal for this
> particular oven or the oven might have some defect or repair needed.
>
> Consumer Reports, consumersearch.com ?, et al., have lots on ovens.
> Some of the convection ovens were so-so. I don't see much difference
> between your oven and the others. So again, you might want to analyze
> this problem before just buying another oven.
>
> I would not be surprised if the maker of your oven has some good
> suggestions and clue. Perhaps a veggie roaster, a clay thing or a
> special roasting pot or something, you can use which will bring you the
> results that you roast after.

Goomba38 wrote:
> Dwayne Hoover wrote:
>
> > What a loser. Well I guess everyone has their place in life, some
> > people spend their lives trying to cure diseases, do charity work for
> > the under-priveleged, yet others hang around a cooking newsgroup trying
> > to annoy people. Congratulations sf for fulfilling your life's
> > potential.
> >
> Hey, I already do ALL of those things...so where do *I* fit in here to
> your scheme of things?

I don't know about Dwayne who seems to be having a bad hair day. The
weekends can be touchy times, maybe when he sobers up a little. I'm not
saying you're drunk, Dwayne, just that you seem to be oblivious to some
sensible suggestions, like using a thermometer. Do you have an oven
thermometer? An external one with a long wire you can insert into the
oven to see exactly if what the oven says is what this second
thermometer says? Or even a cheapie metal thermometer can do the job
but they are not as accurate or easy to read as the digital ones. But
just put it inside the oven where you can read it with a flashlight
through the door. These can be had for a few dollars.

Now Goomba, where would I put you? Between the zucchini and the cheese.
I'm thinking of a vegetable lasanga. No-boil noodles' recommendations?
Seriously what diseases do you try to cure? Now that's a difficult
recipe to put together. I try to do research and it's more difficult
than what? More difficult than cooking so I come here instead

On 1 Oct 2006 12:04:30 -0700, "Dwayne Hoover" >
wrote:
>
>sf wrote:
>> On 1 Oct 2006 10:14:22 -0700, "Dwayne Hoover" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >sf wrote:
>> >> You aren't making any sense. It's pretty hard to mess up roasted
>> >> vegetables. You say you don't like your electric oven, yet you're
>> >> asking us about other electric appliances. If you were switching from
>> >> a gas to electric cooktop, ok I might sympathize - but you don't seem
>> >> to have a problem with that. Crawl back under your bridge.
>> >
>> >Listen ****head. I don't need any shit from you.
<snip>
>>
>> Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, DUHwayne.
>
>What a loser. Well I guess everyone has their place in life, some
>people spend their lives trying to cure diseases, do charity work for
>the under-priveleged, yet others hang around a cooking newsgroup trying
>to annoy people. Congratulations sf for fulfilling your life's
>potential.

I'll still be here long after you've gone. BuhBye Mr. Duh.

One time on Usenet, "Dwayne Hoover" > said:
> sf wrote:
> > On 1 Oct 2006 10:14:22 -0700, "Dwayne Hoover" >
> > wrote:
> > >sf wrote:

<snip>

> > > There is no access to gas on my
> > >street so my options are - deal with mushy vegetables or come to a
> > >newsgroup of cooking afficionados and ask if there are any other
> > >electric options available. I see now that it was a mistake.

Especially when you argue with people by calling them "****head".

> > Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, DUHwayne.
>
> What a loser. Well I guess everyone has their place in life, some
> people spend their lives trying to cure diseases, do charity work for
> the under-priveleged, yet others hang around a cooking newsgroup trying
> to annoy people. Congratulations sf for fulfilling your life's
> potential.

I don't think she's doing a very good job of it at all -- she hasn't
annoyed me yet. You, OTOH, are off to a fine start in that regard...


--
"Little Malice" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

first try at electric oven she said was not good , so she searches
for others .
She did NOT say she did not like electric , she said she did
not succeed with her first elect oven . duhhh

Are you on strong drugs ?

Toaster ovens will do the worst job , for they have
wildly fluctuating temps for the heater rods .
They spend most of their time heating up and then
cooling down . Ni-chrome heats to red in less than 3 seconds .

If they added insulation , even cheap steel to insulate
and ni-chrome wire as your toaster does , perfect cooking !












sf wrote:
> On 30 Sep 2006 18:39:23 -0700, "Dwayne Hoover" >
> wrote:
>
> >I just moved into a new house and it has an electric oven. I've never
> >used one before but I notice it doesn't do that great of a job roasting
> >vegetables. Maybe one of those convection countertop ovens that
> >supposedly do a better job than a standard toaster oven? I don't know,
> >I'm open to suggestions I just need it to be large enough to cook a
> >meal for 2 inside. Does anyone have any recommendations on what brands
> >work well and what ones I should stay away from?
>
> You aren't making any sense. It's pretty hard to mess up roasted
> vegetables. You say you don't like your electric oven, yet you're
> asking us about other electric appliances. If you were switching from
> a gas to electric cooktop, ok I might sympathize - but you don't seem
> to have a problem with that. Crawl back under your bridge.

On 1 Oct 2006 22:30:41 +0200, "cybercat" > wrote:

>
>"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote
>>
>> There may be slight differences between a gas and an electric oven, but
>> nothing that produces complete failure of a recipe. Check the oven with a
>> thermometer in three or four different locations. If it's all out of
>> whack, it needs repair.
>>
>
>Hell, every time I have moved I have had to adjust to the new oven,
>regardless of whether there was a change in heat source. Some ovens
>are just hotter than others. The old 1960s wall oven I use now
>
I absolutely LOVE wall ovens and their corresponding cooktops (pots,
pans and bakeware are stored directly under the cooktop). I was
raised with that configuration and as luck would have it, the house I
bought (mumble, mumble) years ago had the same kitchen arrangement.

<snip>
> I want a new one, but I want
>it to be another wall oven. I don't think I can ever get used to bending
>over to bake again.

Go for it, you won't be sorry! Watch for a sale or find an appliance
discounter.