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I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
someday), but her chili.... ugh.

As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.

Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....
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sf wrote:
> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>
> As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
> years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
> British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.


her chicken breasts at her site, www.nigella.com, are divine

before she put on weight, she looked like a knock-out playboy bunny
and one of those cruel romans, cicero?, wrote that at a banquet
you want good looking people serving you

i prefer her over martha stewart. boring? maybe but nice
like a lasagna.

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One time on Usenet, " > said:

<snip re Nigella, never seen her before>

> boring? maybe but nice like a lasagna.


Heh! I want that on my tombstone... ;->


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sf wrote:

> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> someday), but her chili.... ugh.


Ditto. The chili recipe I saw on her website, would not win any awards
here in Texas. When someone uses a recipe like that, they lose all
credibility.

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sf wrote:
> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> Same voice, same delivery


Same voice and delivery?? . Ina's nasally NY accent compared to
Nigella's posh, cool soft British tones? Here's a Q--tip for your ears.



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Little Malice wrote:
> One time on Usenet, " > said:
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> <snip re Nigella, never seen her before>
>
> > boring? maybe but nice like a lasagna.

>
> Heh! I want that on my tombstone... ;->
>
>
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aw, that's the nicest thing anyone has said to me
that is, said about something i posted

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sf wrote:

> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>
> As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
> years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
> British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.
>
> Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
> me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....


I confess. I have no idea who Ina Garten is, but I will say that as far as
I am concerned,. Nigella's sex appeal is not something that could be
copied, and some of her recipes do really appeal.


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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:56:37 -0700, sf <> wrote:

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>I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
>her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
>someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>
>As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
>years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
>British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.
>
>Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
>me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....


Nigella will always have a place to stay..If she ever comes to South
Carolina!.. If she want's to show me the proper way to make toast..
I'll listen..

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One time on Usenet, "
> said:
> Little Malice wrote:
> > One time on Usenet, " >

> said:


> > <snip re Nigella, never seen her before>


> > > boring? maybe but nice like a lasagna.


> > Heh! I want that on my tombstone... ;->


> aw, that's the nicest thing anyone has said to me
> that is, said about something i posted


<smile> It just seems like something a foodie would like to
hear about themselves. Okay, maybe not the "boring" part...


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> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
>> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
>> someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>>
>> As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
>> years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
>> British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.

>
>her chicken breasts at her site, www.nigella.com, are divine
>
>before she put on weight, she looked like a knock-out playboy bunny
>and one of those cruel romans, cicero?,


You obviously dont know your ancient Romans. Cicero was a good guy,
trying to save the bad guys. Read something about him before you
burst into print.

>wrote that at a banquet
>you want good looking people serving you
>
>i prefer her over martha stewart. boring? maybe but nice
>like a lasagna.


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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:33:44 -0500, Becca > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
>> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
>> someday), but her chili.... ugh.

>
>Ditto. The chili recipe I saw on her website, would not win any awards
>here in Texas. When someone uses a recipe like that, they lose all
>credibility.
>
>Becca


Any chilli food I had in Texas almost blew my head off. Most of the
American chefs I see on Food TV have already lost all credibility -
Emeril excluded!

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On 1 Oct 2006 17:27:00 -0700, "Jocelyn De Contents"
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>
>sf wrote:
>> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>> Same voice, same delivery

>
>Same voice and delivery?? . Ina's nasally NY accent compared to
>Nigella's posh, cool soft British tones? Here's a Q--tip for your ears.


But both very nice posh Jewish ladies serving up very much identical
stuff!

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Dave Smith wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
>
>> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
>> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
>> someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>>
>> As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
>> years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
>> British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.
>>
>> Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
>> me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....
>>

>
> I confess. I have no idea who Ina Garten is, but I will say that as far as
> I am concerned,. Nigella's sex appeal is not something that could be
> copied, and some of her recipes do really appeal.
>
>
>

I've never heard of Ina Garten either, and only a dumb provincial
American would suggest she was copying anybody - what you see is what
you get with Nigella. A lot of her TV recipes are what I would call
Sloane short cuts, but her books, especially the first one, aren't too bad.

However, there's no denying the sex appeal, and what's wrong with that?
It's a bit of harmless fun.

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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:01:55 GMT, "Chuck (in SC)" >
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>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:56:37 -0700, sf <> wrote:
>
>>
>>I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>>Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
>>her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
>>someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>>
>>As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
>>years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
>>British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.
>>
>>Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
>>me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....

>
>Nigella will always have a place to stay..If she ever comes to South
>Carolina!.. If she want's to show me the proper way to make toast..
>I'll listen..
>
>Chuck (in SC)


From what I've seen of Nigella I would think South Carolina would be
the last place on earth she might want to visit.


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Jocelyn De Contents wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> > Same voice, same delivery

>
> Same voice and delivery?? . Ina's nasally NY accent compared to
> Nigella's posh, cool soft British tones? Here's a Q--tip for your ears.


I never thought of them as particularly similar, either. I like Nigella
better.



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On 2 Oct 2006 04:46:36 -0700, "Christopher Helms"
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>
>Jocelyn De Contents wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>> > I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>> > Same voice, same delivery

>>
>> Same voice and delivery?? . Ina's nasally NY accent compared to
>> Nigella's posh, cool soft British tones? Here's a Q--tip for your ears.

>
>I never thought of them as particularly similar, either. I like Nigella
>better.


Plus, I think Nigella was doing her shows long before Ina Garten
started hers.

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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:02:57 -0600, Christine Dabney
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>On 2 Oct 2006 04:46:36 -0700, "Christopher Helms"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Jocelyn De Contents wrote:
>>> sf wrote:
>>> > I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>>> > Same voice, same delivery
>>>
>>> Same voice and delivery?? . Ina's nasally NY accent compared to
>>> Nigella's posh, cool soft British tones? Here's a Q--tip for your ears.

>>
>>I never thought of them as particularly similar, either. I like Nigella
>>better.

>
>Plus, I think Nigella was doing her shows long before Ina Garten
>started hers.
>
>Christine


Her first solo cooking show was in 1999 in the UK.

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sf wrote:
> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
>

One of these things is not like the other! I've only seen N once, but
I can already say she's nothing like the simpering girlcow in a caftan.

It's not that she's large...it's that she's horrid. Ina is Horrid.

That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> someday), but her chili.... ugh.


She's in the UK. She probably also makes lousy gumbo and worthless
barbecue. Somethings just don't translate.

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> Ditto. The chili recipe I saw on her website, would not win any awards
> here in Texas. When someone uses a recipe like that, they lose all
> credibility.
>
> Becca


Yeah, but.. in Europe, there is no chili debate. So she probably wasn't
trying to appeal to US atandars, just to her European taste/expectations.


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Daisy wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 16:11:52 -0700, "
> > wrote:
>
> >sf wrote:
> >> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> >> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
> >> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> >> someday), but her chili.... ugh.
> >>
> >> As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
> >> years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
> >> British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.

> >
> >her chicken breasts at her site, www.nigella.com, are divine
> >
> >before she put on weight, she looked like a knock-out playboy bunny
> >and one of those cruel romans, cicero?,

>
> You obviously dont know your ancient Romans. Cicero was a good guy,
> trying to save the bad guys. Read something about him before you
> burst into print.


I did read him, in Latin, gratias ago.

He was still part of the machinery, veni vidi vici, that goes into
countries and sucks out the blood of the inhabitants.

He was not a Plato or a Socrates, unfortunately. Maybe if he spoke
Greek instead?


>
> >wrote that at a banquet> >you want good looking people serving you
> >
> >i prefer her over martha stewart. boring? maybe but nice
> >like a lasagna.

>
> Daisy
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tert in seattle wrote:

>> I've never heard of Ina Garten either, and only a dumb provincial
>> American would suggest she was copying anybody - what you see is what
>> you get with Nigella. A lot of her TV recipes are what I would call
>> Sloane short cuts, but her books, especially the first one, aren't too bad.
>>
>> However, there's no denying the sex appeal, and what's wrong with that?
>> It's a bit of harmless fun.

>
> I never watched her show but she handled David Letterman's stupid antics
> with aplomb - that was impressive
>


I used to like Letterman at one time but he turned into a permanent ten
year old some years back. I am not sure why any chef would even want to
appear on his show. It would have been interesting to see an adult
respond after he sprays whip cream up his nose or something similar
during a serious cooking segment.
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>her chicken breasts at her site, www.nigella.com, are divine


Which chicken recipe? If it's the one with prosciutto - thanks but no
thanks - I HATE prosciutto.
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>
> >her chicken breasts at her site, www.nigella.com, are divine

>
> Which chicken recipe? If it's the one with prosciutto - thanks but no
> thanks - I HATE prosciutto.


why? something political about prosciutto? i seldom eat it myself.



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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:56:37 -0700, sf <> wrote:

>Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
>me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....


Do try! I adore Nigella. Do you like to read cookbooks? Check a
couple of her cookbooks out of the library. They are a lovely read.
I like _How to Eat_ and _How to be a Domestic Goddess_.

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>sf wrote:
>> On 1 Oct 2006 16:11:52 -0700, "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >her chicken breasts at her site, www.nigella.com, are divine

>>
>> Which chicken recipe? If it's the one with prosciutto - thanks but no
>> thanks - I HATE prosciutto.

>
>why? something political about prosciutto? i seldom eat it myself.


Prosciutto always has an odd raw flavor to me. That's not a good
thing when it's pork.
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> Same voice,


She must have practiced hard to get the same voice as her original


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sf wrote:
> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>
> As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
> years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
> British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.
>

I finally got a chance to watch my TiVO'd copy.

A lot of people are getting those wide format TV's these days. They
tend to leave the things set on Widescreen or Panaromic or strecth or
whatever. It's kind of irritating, because you watch the news or a
ballgame or some show set in 4:3. and everyone looks like Kruschev.

You must have yours set to "Barnyard," since that's the only way you
could confuse that luscious creature, Nigella, with the Roseanne Barr
of food network.

Where Ina simpers, Nigella sizzles. Where Ina mugs, Nigella shines.
Ina is the copycat and Nigella the real thing.

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On 5 Oct 2006 06:14:34 -0700, "Zywicki" > wrote:

> Nigella sizzles.

<snip>
>Nigella shines.


No way, Jose. Nigella was a definate disappointment. She reminded me
too much of Ina Garten to be of any interest and her recipes were just
plain awful.



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sf wrote:
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> > Nigella sizzles.

> <snip>
> >Nigella shines.

>
> No way, Jose. Nigella was a definate disappointment. She reminded me
> too much of Ina Garten to be of any interest and her recipes were just
> plain awful.


"One of these things is not like the other, one of these things does
not belong."

Compare and contrast:

Nigella -

http://www.channel4.com/life/microsi...ver/promo1.jpg

Ina -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../InaGarten.jpg

Sexist? Shallow? Obsessed with outer appearance? Guilty, I suppose.

Except that, having seen both shows, I can see the phoniness that Ina
exudes in her show coming through that picture. While I give her grief
for being bovine, really what bugs me about Ina is that she comes off
as such a crashing bore. Whereas Nigella makes me have to get out a
copy of my wedding vows, so that I remind myself.

Yeah, the chilli was a disapointment (Nigella Darling, there' s a
reason we call it Chilli. It has something to do with peppers) but I
chalk that up to the Atlantic divide. I have a hard enough time
finding real dried Chiles here in Michigan. And she was up front about
using comfort food. As to the trifle - That was some serious Brandy
she used,. and a good dose. She did not skimp on ingredients, and she
didn't just count on megadoses of sugar and butterfat like someone else
whom we're discussing.

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sf wrote:
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It would never have occurred to me to compare the two. And after
thinking about it, I think the comparison is absurd.

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On 6 Oct 2006 05:55:24 -0700, "Zywicki" > wrote:

>Compare and contrast:
>
>Nigella -
>
>http://www.channel4.com/life/microsi...ver/promo1.jpg
>
>Ina -
>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../InaGarten.jpg
>
>Sexist? Shallow? Obsessed with outer appearance? Guilty, I suppose.
>
>Except that, having seen both shows, I can see the phoniness that Ina
>exudes in her show coming through that picture. While I give her grief
>for being bovine, really what bugs me about Ina is that she comes off
>as such a crashing bore. Whereas Nigella makes me have to get out a
>copy of my wedding vows, so that I remind myself.
>

LOL... yes sir, you are certainly all of the above! Thanks for
admitting it. I am not charmed by Nigella's "appearance". However,
if you close your eyes, their voices are the same... very low and slow
(disregard differing accents, which I can hardly tell between)

>Yeah, the chilli was a disapointment (Nigella Darling, there' s a
>reason we call it Chilli. It has something to do with peppers) but I
>chalk that up to the Atlantic divide. I have a hard enough time
>finding real dried Chiles here in Michigan. And she was up front about
>using comfort food.
> As to the trifle - That was some serious Brandy
>she used,. and a good dose. She did not skimp on ingredients, and she
>didn't just count on megadoses of sugar and butterfat
>

We certainly agree on Nigella's recipes. That chili was absolutely
awful, but her trifle was at least interesting.

> like someone else whom we're discussing.


If you were talking about Paula Deen, then I'd agree. I gain 10
pounds, have irritable bowel syndrome or get a cavity every time I
watch one of her shows..... and I can't say I've noticed one recipe
I'd want to serve. OTOH, I'd consider many of the recipes I've see
Ina Garten present.



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> I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
> her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> someday), but her chili.... ugh.
>
> As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
> years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
> British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.
>
> Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
> me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....
>


I've seen the trailers for her show... wasn't impressed enough to watch.
The trailers for Paula's Party, on the other hand, almost (**almost**)
had me convinced that it should not be missed. Ten minutes before the
show's premiere I'm wondering if I should turn it on. Caught myself in
the nick of time, though...

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Zywicki wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > I think Nigella is a copy cat at best. She is a younger Ina Garten.
> > Same voice, same delivery only extremely boring and I didn't even like
> > her recipes. That trifle was ok (I may try a variation on that
> > someday), but her chili.... ugh.
> >
> > As far as the lecherous comments from our peanut gallery about her in
> > years past, I expected a LOT more visually. As it is, she's just a
> > British Ina Garten whose recipes don't appeal.
> >

> I finally got a chance to watch my TiVO'd copy.
>
> A lot of people are getting those wide format TV's these days. They
> tend to leave the things set on Widescreen or Panaromic or strecth or
> whatever. It's kind of irritating, because you watch the news or a
> ballgame or some show set in 4:3. and everyone looks like Kruschev.
>
> You must have yours set to "Barnyard," since that's the only way you
> could confuse that luscious creature, Nigella, with the Roseanne Barr
> of food network.
>
> Where Ina simpers, Nigella sizzles. Where Ina mugs, Nigella shines.
> Ina is the copycat and Nigella the real thing.
>
> Greg Zywicki




I think the most important thing to remember here is that she is
unhygenic. Surely that should be the primary factor in rating a cook.
It is most elementary. All that finger licking, hands in bowls, and
handling raw then cooked food. I find that disgusting. And would it
hurt to tie her hair back? Doesn't matter how making her grandmothers
favorite pasta evokes wholesome childhood memories, if theres an oily
strand of hair poking out of it!

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Tara wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:56:37 -0700, sf <> wrote:
>
> >Chris D told me to watch a few more shows and Nigella would "grow" on
> >me. OK, I'll give it the old college try....

>
> Do try! I adore Nigella. Do you like to read cookbooks? Check a
> couple of her cookbooks out of the library. They are a lovely read.
> I like _How to Eat_ and _How to be a Domestic Goddess_.
>
> Tara



I think the most important thing to remember here is that she is
unhygenic. Surely that should be the primary factor in rating a cook.
It is most elementary. All that finger licking, hands in bowls, and
handling raw then cooked food. I find that disgusting. And would it
hurt to tie her hair back? Doesn't matter how making her grandmothers
favorite pasta evokes wholesome childhood memories, if theres an oily
strand of hair poking out of it!

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On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 11:02:36 -0400, Peri Meno >
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>The trailers for Paula's Party, on the other hand, almost (**almost**)
>had me convinced that it should not be missed.


Is that the live audience show? They want her to be another Emeril.
I turned it on somewhere in the middle and watched for a few minutes,
but couldn't stand it.... I changed channels when she tossed biscuits
to the audience.
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