I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.

I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
stove.

Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
cook that often.

Oh pshaw, on Sun 01 Oct 2006 04:53:04p, Terry meant to say...

> I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
>
> I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> stove.
>
> Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> cook that often.

Most smoothtop electric ranges have elements that have an auto-shut off
feature, but only when there is no pot on them. Just a safeguard, not to be
expected when actully cooking something. Not a bad idea though. I would
guess such a feature would need a timer, as there are somethings that need to
simmer for hours; e.g., brisket, stock, soups, etc.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Cats don't correct your stories.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Oh pshaw, on Sun 01 Oct 2006 04:53:04p, Terry meant to say...
>
> > I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> > in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
> >
> > I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> > would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> > down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> > stove.
> >
> > Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> > anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> > cook that often.
>
> Most smoothtop electric ranges have elements that have an auto-shut off
> feature, but only when there is no pot on them. Just a safeguard, not to be
> expected when actully cooking something. Not a bad idea though. I would
> guess such a feature would need a timer, as there are somethings that need to
> simmer for hours; e.g., brisket, stock, soups, etc.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> __________________________________________________
>
> Cats don't correct your stories.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Oh pshaw, on Sun 01 Oct 2006 04:53:04p, Terry meant to say...
>
> > I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> > in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
> >
> > I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> > would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> > down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> > stove.
> >
> > Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> > anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> > cook that often.
>
> Most smoothtop electric ranges have elements that have an auto-shut off
> feature, but only when there is no pot on them. Just a safeguard, not to be
> expected when actully cooking something. Not a bad idea though. I would
> guess such a feature would need a timer, as there are somethings that need to
> simmer for hours; e.g., brisket, stock, soups, etc.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
> __________________________________________________
>
> Cats don't correct your stories
--------------------
Since I have an unfortunate habit of putting something on to cook, and
then leaving to put my head in a book, or go to the computer, I always
use a small timer that hangs around my neck. They are available on
line, and in hardware/kitchen supply stores. Well worth it.

Nancree

nancree wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > Oh pshaw, on Sun 01 Oct 2006 04:53:04p, Terry meant to say...
> >
> > > I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> > > in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
> > >
> > > I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> > > would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> > > down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> > > stove.
> > >
> > > Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> > > anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> > > cook that often.
> >
> > Most smoothtop electric ranges have elements that have an auto-shut off
> > feature, but only when there is no pot on them. Just a safeguard, not to be
> > expected when actully cooking something. Not a bad idea though. I would
> > guess such a feature would need a timer, as there are somethings that need to
> > simmer for hours; e.g., brisket, stock, soups, etc.
> >
> > --
> > Wayne Boatwright
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> > Cats don't correct your stories
> --------------------
> Since I have an unfortunate habit of putting something on to cook, and
> then leaving to put my head in a book, or go to the computer, I always
> use a small timer that hangs around my neck. They are available on
> line, and in hardware/kitchen supply stores. Well worth it.
>
> Nancree (see site below)
http://www.cooksite.com/IBS/SimpleCa.../26133699.html

Terry wrote:
\
>
> Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> cook that often.
>


Many things that cook on the stovetop need more than an hour to cook:
Chili, spaghetti sauce, stews, soups, corned beef, braised meats, etc.

I'd be really annoyed if my stove burner shut off after an hour.

gloria p

nancree wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > Oh pshaw, on Sun 01 Oct 2006 04:53:04p, Terry meant to say...
> >
> > > I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> > > in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
> > >
> > > I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> > > would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> > > down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> > > stove.
> > >
> > > Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> > > anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> > > cook that often.
> >
> > Most smoothtop electric ranges have elements that have an auto-shut off
> > feature, but only when there is no pot on them. Just a safeguard, not to be
> > expected when actully cooking something. Not a bad idea though. I would
> > guess such a feature would need a timer, as there are somethings that need to
> > simmer for hours; e.g., brisket, stock, soups, etc.
> >
> > --
> > Wayne Boatwright
> > __________________________________________________
> >
> > Cats don't correct your stories
> --------------------
> Since I have an unfortunate habit of putting something on to cook, and
> then leaving to put my head in a book, or go to the computer, I always
> use a small timer that hangs around my neck. They are available on
> line, and in hardware/kitchen supply stores. Well worth it.
>
> Nancree

Yep, but those things don't work very well when you don't set them
either. I have one.

Oh pshaw, on Sun 01 Oct 2006 06:42:26p, Terry meant to say...

> nancree wrote:
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> > Oh pshaw, on Sun 01 Oct 2006 04:53:04p, Terry meant to say...
>> >
>> > > I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug
>> > > them in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
>> > >
>> > > I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut
>> > > off would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned
>> > > something down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget
>> > > about it on the stove.
>> > >
>> > > Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
>> > > anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I
>> > > don't cook that often.
>> >
>> > Most smoothtop electric ranges have elements that have an auto-shut
>> > off feature, but only when there is no pot on them. Just a
>> > safeguard, not to be expected when actully cooking something. Not a
>> > bad idea though. I would guess such a feature would need a timer, as
>> > there are somethings that need to simmer for hours; e.g., brisket,
>> > stock, soups, etc.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Wayne Boatwright
>> > __________________________________________________
>> >
>> > Cats don't correct your stories
>> --------------------
>> Since I have an unfortunate habit of putting something on to cook, and
>> then leaving to put my head in a book, or go to the computer, I always
>> use a small timer that hangs around my neck. They are available on
>> line, and in hardware/kitchen supply stores. Well worth it.
>>
>> Nancree
>
> Yep, but those things don't work very well when you don't set them
> either. I have one.

Nothing works very well unless you set it. Designing a stove burner to cut
off after an hour with no choice is not particularly intelligent.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

Cats don't correct your stories.

In article . com>,
"Terry" > wrote:

> I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
>
> I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> stove.
>
> Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> cook that often.

My GE comes with a timer function for the oven...
It shuts off the oven when the timer kills it.

Not for the stovetop, but still usefull imho. :-)
--
Peace, Om

Remove extra . to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

Terry wrote:
> I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
>
> I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> stove.
>
> Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> cook that often.

Yes, I think some does. From what I've heard ours shuts off the gas
valve if the flame goes, similar to this:

http://www.towngas.com/tgweb/eng/pro...uct.asp?con=31

more here
http://www.towngas.com/tgweb/eng/pro...ist.asp?con=42

dee wrote on 02 Oct 2006 in rec.food.cooking

> http://www.towngas.com/tgweb/eng/pro...uct.asp?con=31

My induction hotplate came with an adjustable cooking timer that shuts off
the burner after a set period of time.

But for large electric stoves I imagine there are off site timer units
capable of turning on or off the stove. To be purchased from a industrail
electronic store. These would be somewhat like an small electric appliance
timer, the kind used to turn on and off lamps at certain times of the day.
I also imagine you'd require those to be electrian installed and fairly
expensive.

Terry wrote:
> I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
>
> I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> stove.
>
> Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> cook that often.
>

About 10 years ago, my aunt (now deceased) patented an *OOPLESS*
shut-off for the stove-top. My understanding is patents are good for 25
years unless renewed. So unless her children re-patent it, it should
start appearing on stoves in about 15 years!!!

It was like a timer that you set and it automatically shut off the stove
for you. She started a pizza/restaurant/bar back in the 1930's and had
a lot of experience in this area.
Travlr

Travlr wrote:
>
> About 10 years ago, my aunt (now deceased) patented an *OOPLESS*
> shut-off for the stove-top. My understanding is patents are good for 25
> years unless renewed. So unless her children re-patent it, it should
> start appearing on stoves in about 15 years!!!
>

If you think a patent is holding up this feature you are mistaken.

It is like the guy that claimed he invented intermittent windshield
wipers. It is not a very unique idea.

When replying by email please include this
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Terry wrote:

> It is like the guy that claimed he invented intermittent windshield
> wipers. It is not a very unique idea.

Claimed? Robert Kerns won multi-million dollar lawsuits against Ford and
Chrysler.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

"Terry" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Travlr wrote:
>>
>> About 10 years ago, my aunt (now deceased) patented an *OOPLESS*
>> shut-off for the stove-top. My understanding is patents are good for 25
>> years unless renewed. So unless her children re-patent it, it should
>> start appearing on stoves in about 15 years!!!
>>
>
> If you think a patent is holding up this feature you are mistaken.
>
> It is like the guy that claimed he invented intermittent windshield
> wipers. It is not a very unique idea.
>


I am always amazed when people think that they can patent and idea instead
of the specific implementation.

"Terry" > wrote:
>I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
>
> I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> stove.
>
> Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> cook that often.

In the back of my mind I remembered something about stoves that somehow turn
themselves on or don't turn themselves off in some manner for Jewish cooks.
I decided to look this up again, and several manufacturers offer it, though
it's not useful for your purposes. It's called "Sabbath Mode" and it keeps
an oven from shutting itself off... among other things. GE even has Sabbath
Mode refrigerators, and maybe other appliances too. Here's a press release
from GE about their products:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V221134ED

or

http://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pr...ts/sabbath.htm

Somehow this is a modern solution to an age old problem of preparing a hot
meal on the Sabbath. I like the old stories about the big masonry communal
(baker's?) ovens where families brought their food to cook. The big masonry
(brick/stone) oven retained its heat until the food was retrieved.

--
( #wff_ng_7# at #verizon# period #net# )

In article . com>,
"Terry" > wrote:

> I saw the crock pot thread. They don't work if you8 don't plug them
> in. Stuff like this happens to me more than I care to admit.
>
> I have not been shopping for a stove, but I do think an auto-shut off
> would be a very useful feature. More than once I have turned something
> down to low and sampled enough of the dish to forget about it on the
> stove.
>
> Anyone know if an auto-shut off is a common feature? I would say
> anything after an hour on the stove top should shut off, but I don't
> cook that often.

My parents' gas oven has an auto-off feature and its at least 20 years
old. You twist a little dial on the front of the stove to set the amount
of time and it will turn off after that. The controls for the oven part
are all electric, but the controls for the burners on the gas range part
of it are mechanical. I would be surprised if ovens and ranges that are
being sold now do not have that feature on some models.