[Yup...look how well the US treats enemy internees. With a plush life like
this many of them would like to live in Club Gitmo *forever*...looks like
they eat better even than some of the posters on this froup. So much for
international "criticism" of how the US treats it's enemies...]


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...l=chi-news-hed

High-Calorie Diet Fattens Gitmo Inmates


By MICHAEL MELIA
Associated Press Writer

October 3, 2006, 7:04 PM CDT

"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- A high-calorie diet combined with life in the cell
block -- almost around the clock in some cases -- is making detainees at
Guantanamo Bay fat.

Meals totaling a whopping 4,200 calories per day are brought to their cells,
well above the 2,000 to 3,000 calories recommended for weight maintenance by
U.S. government dietary guidelines. And some inmates are eating everything
on the menu.

One detainee has almost doubled in weight, to 410 pounds, said Navy Cmdr.
Robert Durand, spokesman for the detention facilities at Guantanamo, a U.S.
Navy station in southeast Cuba.

Human rights groups attribute the weight gain to lack of exercise. They cite
accounts of released detainees who complained they were allowed to exercise
fewer than three times a week outside their small cells.

But Durand said detainees are simply served a wide variety of food and are
expected to choose what appeals to them.

"The detainees are advised that they are offered more food than necessary,
to provide choice and variety, and that consuming all the food they are
offered will result in weight gain," he said.

Most of the prisoners at Guantanamo picked up in Afghanistan and other
conflict zones were slightly underweight when they arrived. Since then,
they've gained an average of 20 pounds, and most are now "normal to mildly
overweight or mildly obese," according to the most recent measurements, he
said.

The meals include meats prepared according to Islamic guidelines, along with
fresh bread, vegetables and yogurt. With nearly all detainees fasting in the
daytime during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, authorities have arranged
for a post-sunset meal and a midnight meal. Traditional desserts and honey
also are served during the Ramadan observances.

Even two detainees who have been on a hunger strike for more than a year are
at "100 percent ideal body weight," from nutrients fed through tubes
inserted in their noses, Durand said.

The calorie intake at Guantanamo is well above the norm for federal inmates
in the United States, who receive about 2,900 calories a day, said U.S.
Bureau of Prisons spokesman Michael Truman. He said weight gain in the
civilian system is not widespread and that most inmates "keep themselves in
pretty good shape."

Prisoners at Guantanamo who behave well get more exercise time. The most
compliant get up to 12 hours a week, including access to treadmills,
stationary bikes and other fitness equipment, Durand said. Guantanamo
officials say compliance is gauged solely by whether a detainee follows
detention center rules and avoids causing disturbances, and has nothing to
do with whether he is providing information to interrogators.

Detainees clashed with guards in May, using fan blades and broken light
fixtures as makeshift weapons. Other inmates were recently discovered to be
removing springs from sink faucets to use as stabbing weapons, the military
says.

The facility now holds about 460 detainees, some of them kept for more than
four years on suspicion of links to al-Qaida and the Taliban. President Bush
recently transferred 14 terrorism suspects, previously held at CIA secret
prisons, to Guantanamo.

Citing prison rules, Guantanamo officials wouldn't disclose the identity of
their heaviest detainee, but Durand said he now weighs 410 pounds, up from
215 pounds when he arrived in 2002.

Durand said all prisoners, including those held at maximum-security Camp 5,
are allowed at least two hours of daily recreation -- the minimum called for
by the International Committee of the Red Cross.

However, reporters who visited Camp 5 in September were told the exercise
time had been reduced to one hour after the suicides of three detainees in
June. During that visit, a "high-value" detainee could be seen walking in
circles around a 10-by-18-foot fenced-in "recreation yard."

The exercise time has since been increased to 90 minutes, the commander of
the camp guards said, and there were plans to restore the two-hour exercise
periods.

The conflicting accounts of prisoners' exercise time highlight a need for
neutral monitors to examine conditions and report their findings, said Curt
Goering of Amnesty International USA.

"The Army says one thing, camp commanders say one thing and then there's
this other information available," he said. "It's really important that
someone independent makes that assessment."

A Red Cross delegation arrived at the prison last week for interviews with
detainees. The humanitarian organization, which does not publicly release
some findings as a condition of its access to prisoners, was hoping to get a
first glimpse of 14 top alleged al-Qaida figures and other terror suspects
previously locked up in CIA secret prisons."


Copyright © 2006, The Associated Press

Gregory Morrow <gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
>[Yup...look how well the US treats enemy internees. With a plush life like
>this many of them would like to live in Club Gitmo *forever*...looks like
>they eat better even than some of the posters on this froup. So much for
>international "criticism" of how the US treats it's enemies...]

You're a shallow buffoon. No wonder the world hates
people like you. We should stop protecting you from them.

--Blair

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Gregory Morrow <gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
> >[Yup...look how well the US treats enemy internees. With a plush life like
> >this many of them would like to live in Club Gitmo *forever*...looks like
> >they eat better even than some of the posters on this froup. So much for
> >international "criticism" of how the US treats it's enemies...]
>
> You're a shallow buffoon. No wonder the world hates
> people like you. We should stop protecting you from them.


Nope...only a country as magnaminous and open as the US would have a
detention camp for enemy detainess where the prisoners actually *gain*
weight, have their every dietary (and religious) whim catered to, and
get *superb* medical, dental, and psychological care. They even get to
take educational courses if they so desire. A number of detainees that
have been released have said in interviews that they actually *begged*
to be allowed to stay on in Gitmo, they'd never had it so good...for
some of them it was the first time they'd ever been given shoes to wear
or had learned to read or had gone to bed without being hungry.

Ain't the USA a GREAT place, Blair...???

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow > wrote:
>
>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>> Gregory Morrow
><gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earth link.net> wrote:
>> >[Yup...look how well the US treats enemy internees. With a plush life like
>> >this many of them would like to live in Club Gitmo *forever*...looks like
>> >they eat better even than some of the posters on this froup. So much for
>> >international "criticism" of how the US treats it's enemies...]
>>
>> You're a shallow buffoon. No wonder the world hates
>> people like you. We should stop protecting you from them.
>
>
>Nope...only a country as magnaminous and open as the US would have a
>detention camp for enemy detainess where the prisoners actually *gain*
>weight, have their every dietary (and religious) whim catered to, and
>get *superb* medical, dental, and psychological care. They even get to
>take educational courses if they so desire. A number of detainees that
>have been released have said in interviews that they actually *begged*
>to be allowed to stay on in Gitmo, they'd never had it so good...for
>some of them it was the first time they'd ever been given shoes to wear
>or had learned to read or had gone to bed without being hungry.
>
>Ain't the USA a GREAT place, Blair...???

But then, they have no right to counsel, nor to a trial
by anyone other than the prejudiced individuals who
captured them.

I expect a fair number are the scum of the earth, but
the significant number who have already been determined
to be totally innocent indicates that we're probably
treating quite a few human beings like they're cattle.

Apparently for the enjoyment of ignorami and twits.

--Blair

>The facility now holds about 460 detainees, some of them kept for more than
four years on suspicion of links to al-Qaida and the Taliban. President
Bush
recently transferred 14 terrorism suspects, previously held at CIA
secret
prisons, to Guantanamo. <



Keeping anyone in jail for "suspicions" without trial is against the
Consititution! This is just one of the many violations this
administration has encouraged for the sake of "safety". How can people
stand for this? I don't feel safer, I feel my country slipping down a
horrible path that makes me sad.

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Gregory Morrow > wrote:
> >
> >Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> >
> >> Gregory Morrow
> ><gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earth link.net> wrote:
> >> >[Yup...look how well the US treats enemy internees. With a plush life like
> >> >this many of them would like to live in Club Gitmo *forever*...looks like
> >> >they eat better even than some of the posters on this froup. So much for
> >> >international "criticism" of how the US treats it's enemies...]
> >>
> >> You're a shallow buffoon. No wonder the world hates
> >> people like you. We should stop protecting you from them.
> >
> >
> >Nope...only a country as magnaminous and open as the US would have a
> >detention camp for enemy detainess where the prisoners actually *gain*
> >weight, have their every dietary (and religious) whim catered to, and
> >get *superb* medical, dental, and psychological care. They even get to
> >take educational courses if they so desire. A number of detainees that
> >have been released have said in interviews that they actually *begged*
> >to be allowed to stay on in Gitmo, they'd never had it so good...for
> >some of them it was the first time they'd ever been given shoes to wear
> >or had learned to read or had gone to bed without being hungry.
> >
> >Ain't the USA a GREAT place, Blair...???
>
> But then, they have no right to counsel, nor to a trial
> by anyone other than the prejudiced individuals who
> captured them.
>
> I expect a fair number are the scum of the earth, but
> the significant number who have already been determined
> to be totally innocent indicates that we're probably
> treating quite a few human beings like they're cattle.


There's a LOT worse places for many of them to be...


> Apparently for the enjoyment of ignorami and twits.


I hear the Gitmo inmates LOVE to watch _Hogan's Heroes_...

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow > wrote:
>
>Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>> Gregory Morrow > wrote:
>> >
>> >Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>> >
>> >> Gregory Morrow
>> ><gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earth link.net> wrote:
>> >> >[Yup...look how well the US treats enemy internees. With a plush
>life like
>> >> >this many of them would like to live in Club Gitmo *forever*...looks like
>> >> >they eat better even than some of the posters on this froup. So much for
>> >> >international "criticism" of how the US treats it's enemies...]
>> >>
>> >> You're a shallow buffoon. No wonder the world hates
>> >> people like you. We should stop protecting you from them.
>> >
>> >
>> >Nope...only a country as magnaminous and open as the US would have a
>> >detention camp for enemy detainess where the prisoners actually *gain*
>> >weight, have their every dietary (and religious) whim catered to, and
>> >get *superb* medical, dental, and psychological care. They even get to
>> >take educational courses if they so desire. A number of detainees that
>> >have been released have said in interviews that they actually *begged*
>> >to be allowed to stay on in Gitmo, they'd never had it so good...for
>> >some of them it was the first time they'd ever been given shoes to wear
>> >or had learned to read or had gone to bed without being hungry.
>> >
>> >Ain't the USA a GREAT place, Blair...???
>>
>> But then, they have no right to counsel, nor to a trial
>> by anyone other than the prejudiced individuals who
>> captured them.
>>
>> I expect a fair number are the scum of the earth, but
>> the significant number who have already been determined
>> to be totally innocent indicates that we're probably
>> treating quite a few human beings like they're cattle.
>
>
>There's a LOT worse places for many of them to be...

Your mom says clean up your room.

--Blair