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>> I'm having the damnedest luck researching this, and I don't know why.
>> Maybe it's just not made??
>>
>> I want to grill my own steaks. At home. On a table. That's all!
>>
>> But electric doesn't seem to really do the job, on account of the low
>> temperatures. So gas seems the way to go. But, heck, where are these
>> things?? Doesn't anyone make a simple gas grill that sits on the table
>> or counter top and can be used indoors? Okay, so I need ventilation:
>> I'll leave the window open and have a fan blowing.
>>
>> I tried looking and looking but no one seems to make such a thing! I
>> just need to directly cook over flames in an apartment, and I can't buy
>> some huge fancy restaurant-grade contraption.
>>
>> Now, in the meantime, I came across something called infrared grilling!
>> Sounds interesting, but they are at least a grand and a half for the
>> low-end models, and I need them smaller, anyway.
>>
>> So does anyone have any recommendations? Or am I forced to use a
>> portable tabletop CHARCOAL grill indoors?? (That means I'll have to
>> buy an industrial-strength fan, too, in all likelihood!)
>>
>> I can't believe it's so hard to get a fire started in 2006 A.D. =)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any advice! I want to cook meat directly over
>> flames, but indoors, in an apartment, no less! I don't know why, but
>> all the grilling stuff I can google are either outdoors or electric or
>> over fireplaces!!
>>
> As Alton Brown on one of his shows once said: "A broiler is nothing more
> than an upside down grill."
> The only thing you won't get is a crosshatch pattern on the meat. If
> you'd
> like a crosshatch pattern burnt into your steak, go purchase a hunk of
> steel
> diamond grate and heat it in the broiler as the broiler heats up. A steel
> diamond grate has a pattern similar to a chain link fence. Why grill
> manufacturers don't use a diamond pattern for their grill grates is beyond
> me. Everybody wants that diamond pattern on grilled meat, then they have
> to
> turn the steaks and cook them to long on each side to get it.
> Place your meat on the broiler pan and place the hot diamond grate on top.
> When you flip the meat, flip the grate. The result is a steak that
> appears
> to have been grilled outdoors.


I've got one of these, which works nicely for the diamond pattern:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...1&SKU=13844518

I only used it that way once because of the spattered grease, but it DOES
work, and it's a nice solid product. The other side's flat, for pancakes.
And, it's perfect for defrosting frozen food. Remember the TV ads for the
"miracle aluminum thing that defrosts food in no time at all"? That was just
a useless hunk of aluminum. This is a hunk with more than one purpose.

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
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> "Muddle" > wrote in message
> et...
> >
> > > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >>
> >> I'm having the damnedest luck researching this, and I don't know why.
> >> Maybe it's just not made??
> >>
> >> I want to grill my own steaks. At home. On a table. That's all!
> >>
> >> But electric doesn't seem to really do the job, on account of the low
> >> temperatures. So gas seems the way to go. But, heck, where are these
> >> things?? Doesn't anyone make a simple gas grill that sits on the table
> >> or counter top and can be used indoors? Okay, so I need ventilation:
> >> I'll leave the window open and have a fan blowing.
> >>
> >> I tried looking and looking but no one seems to make such a thing! I
> >> just need to directly cook over flames in an apartment, and I can't buy
> >> some huge fancy restaurant-grade contraption.
> >>
> >> Now, in the meantime, I came across something called infrared grilling!
> >> Sounds interesting, but they are at least a grand and a half for the
> >> low-end models, and I need them smaller, anyway.
> >>
> >> So does anyone have any recommendations? Or am I forced to use a
> >> portable tabletop CHARCOAL grill indoors?? (That means I'll have to
> >> buy an industrial-strength fan, too, in all likelihood!)
> >>
> >> I can't believe it's so hard to get a fire started in 2006 A.D. =)
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any advice! I want to cook meat directly over
> >> flames, but indoors, in an apartment, no less! I don't know why, but
> >> all the grilling stuff I can google are either outdoors or electric or
> >> over fireplaces!!
> >>
> > As Alton Brown on one of his shows once said: "A broiler is nothing more
> > than an upside down grill."
> > The only thing you won't get is a crosshatch pattern on the meat. If
> > you'd
> > like a crosshatch pattern burnt into your steak, go purchase a hunk of
> > steel
> > diamond grate and heat it in the broiler as the broiler heats up. A
steel
> > diamond grate has a pattern similar to a chain link fence. Why grill
> > manufacturers don't use a diamond pattern for their grill grates is
beyond
> > me. Everybody wants that diamond pattern on grilled meat, then they
have
> > to
> > turn the steaks and cook them to long on each side to get it.
> > Place your meat on the broiler pan and place the hot diamond grate on
top.
> > When you flip the meat, flip the grate. The result is a steak that
> > appears
> > to have been grilled outdoors.
>
>
> I've got one of these, which works nicely for the diamond pattern:
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...1&SKU=13844518
>
> I only used it that way once because of the spattered grease, but it DOES
> work, and it's a nice solid product. The other side's flat, for pancakes.
> And, it's perfect for defrosting frozen food. Remember the TV ads for the
> "miracle aluminum thing that defrosts food in no time at all"? That was
just
> a useless hunk of aluminum. This is a hunk with more than one purpose.
>
>
A diamond pattern steel grate does not look like that, it looks like this.
http://click-onsource.com/metals/images/grate2.gif
To get a diamond pattern on meat with the product you posted, you'd have to
turn the meat after 5 min. by 45 degrees and cook it 5 more min. If I want
to cook a steak 5 min. on each side I can't get this device to put a
caramelized diamond pattern on it. You'd get that device at Bed Bath and
Beyond, the one I'm talking about comes from the nearest Welder and he uses
the welder to cut steak sized hunks off of a huge piece of diamond grate.
In essence this grate is being used as a branding iron, to brand the steaks
with a traditional grill diamond pattern while it's in the broiler, not on
top of a burner.

"Muddle" > wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
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>> "Muddle" > wrote in message
>> et...
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>> > > wrote in message
>> > oups.com...
>> >>
>> >> I'm having the damnedest luck researching this, and I don't know why.
>> >> Maybe it's just not made??
>> >>
>> >> I want to grill my own steaks. At home. On a table. That's all!
>> >>
>> >> But electric doesn't seem to really do the job, on account of the low
>> >> temperatures. So gas seems the way to go. But, heck, where are these
>> >> things?? Doesn't anyone make a simple gas grill that sits on the
>> >> table
>> >> or counter top and can be used indoors? Okay, so I need ventilation:
>> >> I'll leave the window open and have a fan blowing.
>> >>
>> >> I tried looking and looking but no one seems to make such a thing! I
>> >> just need to directly cook over flames in an apartment, and I can't
>> >> buy
>> >> some huge fancy restaurant-grade contraption.
>> >>
>> >> Now, in the meantime, I came across something called infrared
>> >> grilling!
>> >> Sounds interesting, but they are at least a grand and a half for the
>> >> low-end models, and I need them smaller, anyway.
>> >>
>> >> So does anyone have any recommendations? Or am I forced to use a
>> >> portable tabletop CHARCOAL grill indoors?? (That means I'll have to
>> >> buy an industrial-strength fan, too, in all likelihood!)
>> >>
>> >> I can't believe it's so hard to get a fire started in 2006 A.D. =)
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance for any advice! I want to cook meat directly over
>> >> flames, but indoors, in an apartment, no less! I don't know why, but
>> >> all the grilling stuff I can google are either outdoors or electric or
>> >> over fireplaces!!
>> >>
>> > As Alton Brown on one of his shows once said: "A broiler is nothing
>> > more
>> > than an upside down grill."
>> > The only thing you won't get is a crosshatch pattern on the meat. If
>> > you'd
>> > like a crosshatch pattern burnt into your steak, go purchase a hunk of
>> > steel
>> > diamond grate and heat it in the broiler as the broiler heats up. A
> steel
>> > diamond grate has a pattern similar to a chain link fence. Why grill
>> > manufacturers don't use a diamond pattern for their grill grates is
> beyond
>> > me. Everybody wants that diamond pattern on grilled meat, then they
> have
>> > to
>> > turn the steaks and cook them to long on each side to get it.
>> > Place your meat on the broiler pan and place the hot diamond grate on
> top.
>> > When you flip the meat, flip the grate. The result is a steak that
>> > appears
>> > to have been grilled outdoors.
>>
>>
>> I've got one of these, which works nicely for the diamond pattern:
>> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...1&SKU=13844518
>>
>> I only used it that way once because of the spattered grease, but it DOES
>> work, and it's a nice solid product. The other side's flat, for pancakes.
>> And, it's perfect for defrosting frozen food. Remember the TV ads for the
>> "miracle aluminum thing that defrosts food in no time at all"? That was
> just
>> a useless hunk of aluminum. This is a hunk with more than one purpose.
>>
>>
> A diamond pattern steel grate does not look like that, it looks like this.
> http://click-onsource.com/metals/images/grate2.gif
> To get a diamond pattern on meat with the product you posted, you'd have
> to
> turn the meat after 5 min. by 45 degrees and cook it 5 more min. If I
> want
> to cook a steak 5 min. on each side I can't get this device to put a
> caramelized diamond pattern on it. You'd get that device at Bed Bath and
> Beyond, the one I'm talking about comes from the nearest Welder and he
> uses
> the welder to cut steak sized hunks off of a huge piece of diamond grate.
> In essence this grate is being used as a branding iron, to brand the
> steaks
> with a traditional grill diamond pattern while it's in the broiler, not on
> top of a burner.

That's all very nice. But, nobody eats the pattern, so I think most people
probably just want the steak cooked to their liking.